Stephen King books- fav. and least fav.

In his most recent book, On Writing, SK doesn’t mention anything about Tabitha (Mrs. King) helping him with the latter books. I have heard this before so I wonder if it is just a rumor.

He also talks a lot about his accident in this book. It seems like he has a lot of physical therapy to do, but that he is really very lucky that he will not be permanently disabled after his accident.

Overall the book was enjoyable. He provides some interesting background on several of his books and stories. He talks about his own alcoholism and drug addiction – I hadn’t known about that previously.

Oh, and back to IT for just a moment. I understand that It is a sort of cosmic evil that takes on the form of a spider, the clown, etc. My big complaint is that SK’s writing about that concept is not exceptionally masterful, especially when compared to the brilliance of the rest of the novel. It’s still my favorite SK book, so it’s not as though I think it stinks, but I just wish it could have been better.

I love The Stand. I also enjoyed the four-part mini-series with Gary Sinise as Stu Redman.

Other favorites are IT, 'Salem’s Lot (I couldn’t sleep with the lights out for a month after reading that one.), Firestarter and Misery. I am also fond of the essay Head Down in the Nightmares and Dreamscapes collection. It’s about his son’s Little League team. Typically absorbing. My mother got me On Writing as a birthday gift, autographed by the author with a personal birthday wish!

[slight hijack} I live in Maine where we take our King worship quite seriously. The Kings live in Bangor where I grew up and where my family still lives. He is active in the community, helped build an amazing public library for the town, and acts like (and is treated like) a regular guy. Well, regular except for the jillions of dollars. [/slight hijack]

Soapbox.

Has anyone read the Modern Critical Views entry on Stephen King? What did you think of it?

For those who don’t know (and I sure didn’t), the Modern Critical Views series is “a critical presentation of those men and women who, from medieval times to the present, have shaped the Western tradition.” Yadda yadda. Each book focuses on one writer, with essays, bibliographies, chronologies, etc.

The series profiles important writers, like Chekhov, Emerson, Faulkner, Shakespeare, James, Joyce, etc.

They did one on King. High compliment, yes? Well, no. At least not in the introduction, by Harold Bloom. (He does the intros for all these books.) Bloom is a Sterling Professor of the Humanities at Yale, more yadda yadda. Guy’s got literary credentials.

He admits that people read King, who might not read anything else. But he doesn’t see this as a good thing; he sees it as “a large emblem of the failures of American education.”

Some quotes from the intro. Bloom read Carrie and The Shining (and then probably took his brain out and washed it).

“With great effort, I have just reread both . . . The narrative line of each book has a certain coherence and drive; the prose is indistinguished, and there is nothing much that could be termed characterization or inwardness, or even vivid caricature.

"I cannot locate any aesthetic dignity in King’s writing: his public could not sustain it, nor could he. There is a palpable sincerity to everything that he has done: that testifies to his decency, and to his social benignity. Art unfortunately is rarely the fruit of earnestness, and King will be remembered as a sociological phenomenon, an image of the death of the Literate Reader.

The essays in the book are reprints from other sources, and might be helpful to crib from if you’re doing a book report on Carrie.

I don’t know, but I would suppose that Bloom exerts some influence in deciding what writers are included in this series. If he so deplores King (and the rest of us who read and love him), why did he do this book? For the money?

I also don’t know how I feel about this. I’m tired of the notion that just because something is popular, it’s no good. On the other hand, I can understand how someone like Bloom might not be capable of appreciating King.

I think King’s books will still be read many years from now, and that they embody much of what is important to Americans in the late 20th century, what’s on our minds, what we’re afraid of. So Bloom’s partly right: King is a sociological phenomenon.

So what’s wrong with that?

Not exactly a short story, but didja catch that Dick Halloran, from The Shining, was at the Black Spot, and had a premonition about the blocked door?

Another great reference in It was in the ramblings of the old man Mike interviewed. He mentions an artist named Pickman who painted horrible pictures.

(“Pickman’s Model” is a story by H.P. Lovecraft, about an artist who painted monsters that lived in the sewers. IT lived in the sewer.)

Best: IT, Talisman
Worst: Pet Semetary, Cujo

–John

Oh this is quite the fun thread.

Favirote Books
Pet Sematary
Christine
Apt Pupil
The Shining

Books that are quite good but didn’t make “the list”- Carrie, Cujo (those being my 2 first), and Storm of the Century (I know it’s a screenplay/movie, but it rocks!)

Least Favirotes
The Green Mile
The Body (just didn’t get what everyone saw in it…)
The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon + the other new books…

N.B.- I do have a love-hate relationship with The Stand. I do enjoy it. Some parts i love, some parts drive me crazy…sometimes it annoys me, sometimes I totally get into it- but there must be something about it that endears it to me, because I have read it twice. (You don’t read a 1,000 page book twice just because you have nothing else to read!)
The same is sort of true w/ IT…

Godamnit, nobody has the right to criticize SK…except me. Who does this Bloom fellow think he is? :slight_smile:

Anyway, I agree. With you. That he is a sociological phenomenon. And Dickens was thought to be a fun “trashy” author when he was alive. Today innocent children are forced to read these melodramatic ramblings. You never know. Perhaps the Shining and the Stand will one day become required reading. (I know I could right now think up a thesis for almost any of his books!)

And if so many people can relate to his books, if his characters (some anyway) are known by name…and if people know the plot to his books/movies without even having read/seen them, doesn’t that mean he has permeated our culture, and regardless of whether it is “good” or “bad” literature, that he does deserve some respect and recognition? You don’t get this famous by accident.

That is all…and Auntie Pam…did you mention YOUR faves/least faves yet?

The Shining might be the perfect Stephen King book…great story, great charecters and setting, very scary, not a word too long or out of place. I also give very high marks to The Stand, especially the long version, and Pet Semetary for being the one of the most horrific things he has ever done. I am also very fond of the first two short story collections.

It contains some of his best writing, especially the parts in the first part regarding the kids and the pre-history of the town. It would be his best if he had edited out about a quarter or a third of it. As other posters have mentioned, the mythological aspects are silly and really dilute the impact and his foray into kiddie porn is very ill advised.

I didn’t care much for Rose Madder, Insomnia or the first Gunslinger book (the only one I read). In general, King should leave the mystical cosmological fantasies to Clive Barker and write stories about horrible things happening to ordinary people.

But I liked the kiddie porn…

For those of you who stopped after the first Dark Tower (Gunslinger), I would encourage you to read the others. The first was, I admit, not much more than a cardboard framework. The second was no great shakes, but brings in the characters that he really fleshes out in the third and fourth installments. I’m not a fan of fantasy, and the Dark Tower Series is really the only thing I have read in the genre. So, maybe it pales in comparison to such works I have not read.

Or maybe not. It could be that the popularity of the series is because it is just damn good writing. Much of the third book deals with the perspective of a child, and we all know how insightful King is when it comes to the psychology of children. The backstory in the fourth installment is simply wonderful.

AuntiePam, at least the guy making the criticism actually read some King. I’ve heard people knock him down and snort with disdain over his name, and they haven’t even bothered to read anything by him. Supposedly, anyone as popular as King only speaks to the unenlightened masses, not sophisticated readers of literature. BTW, I didn’t really care for Carrie too much either, so if that really represents 50% of what Bloom has read of King, I can cut him a little slack. But not too much. Surely, he could read a little further before passing such sweeping judgement.

I’m glad Zoggie brought up Dickens, because that was going to be my comparison. Was Dickens a hack? In many senses of the word, yes. He wrote for the masses of his time. Did he write some great things? Most certainly. I can easily see about a third of King’s production still being read (and even taught) a couple of generations from now. In one way, all the movies have done his work a great disservice. I admit it may be hard to take King seriously when many people know him best from some of the crap Hollywood has put out in his name. (And no, King is certainly not blameless here, and several of the movies are quite enjoyable).

Did anyone else out there like “The Last Rung on the Ladder” (in Night Shift) as much as I did? Every time I read the story it takes my breath away. Such a simple tale, yet so powerful.

I’ve read the “Last Rung on the Ladder”. IMHO, one the the finest American short stories ever written.

I hated Pet Semetary. King got a hand full of words and threw them on the page from about 10 feet back. What a mess.

I loved the Talisman. Didn’t like TommyKnockers.

IT was great. Insomnia was highly entertaining. The Gunslinger series was fantastic.

A friend of mine recently became very, very wealthy and went out and bought nearly every book King wrote. In hard cover of course. Her husband, went out the very same day, and picked up nearly every book King wrote, in hard cover of course, for his lovely wife. I was visiting that day, and to make a long story short, walked out of there with nearly every book King wrote, in hard cover of course. Timing is everything.

I forgot to mention…I like King’s ability to make up great words that help create a wonderful image in one’s mind.
Lobstrosity is probably my favorite word…ever.
They sound like they’d be good to eat.
I can see it now…Roland on the beach, sitting on a red and white checkered table cloth, a little clarified butter, a glass of white wine, a big plastic lobster bib, and a huge greasy grin on his face.

Best - The Talisman and The Stand.

Worst - Most of his recent work.

Scariest-many-sleepless-nights - 'Salems Lot and Pet Semetary. :::shiver:::

Rose Madder had great potential before he played the supernatural card. What a disappointment.

Insomnia started out great but fizzled out.

The Green Mile made me cry.

Stand By Me was the best book-to-movie, a close second was The Shawshank Redemption and The Green Mile. Honorable mentions are The Shining (both versions) and The Dead Zone (Walken is just creepy).

Creepshow was just fun to watch (“Thanks for the ride, lady” still cracks me up).

I still have my old diary from when I was a kid. There is an entry I made that said something like “Took my babysitting money and bought a True Detective Magazine and a book called Carrie to read on our vacation.”

(While other pre-teen girls bought Tiger Beat to drool over David Cassidy and Donny Osmond, I buried my nose in true murder cases and scary novels.)

A few pages further I wrote “I really love this book Carrie. It is written by a guy named Stephen King. I do hope he puts out more book after this one. He is my new favorite author.”

Little did I know. :slight_smile:

That’s really neat, Diane!
You should copy it, and send it to King!

I have started to read Insomnia four times now and the last time I actually got to the 30th page: a new personal record. It’s awful!!

I have actually thought about doing just that, I just need to get off my ass and do it.

Oh, but this was Creepshow 2, which was not nearly as much fun as the first. Creepshow had Hal Holbrook, Adrienne Barbeau, Fritz Weaver, Leslie Nielsen, E.G. Marshall, Ed Harris, Ted Danson, and King. Roaches! Crate monster! Revenge from the grave! Being buried up to your neck in sand with the tide coming in! Meteor shit!

Creepshow 2 had…George Kennedy.

I loved both Creepshows, but my favorite scene is still “Thanks for the ride, lady”. In fact, that is one of my favorite movie quotes, unfortunately most people I use it on don’t have a clue what the hell I’m talking about.

Didn’t I once hear that they are making a movie based on The Talisman?

Oh yeah, George Kennedy rocks!

Aww: Why is everyone knocking Pet Sem?

Damn- this book is my favirote SK book, or at least one of them…i’ve read it twice, maybe three times, and I love it. It’s the scariest book by him. Unlike a lot of the other novel he’s written (ah…The Stand, anyone?) the violence/gore didn’t get out of hand, or over the top…after awhile in some of his others, it can become meaningless. But in this one, it was the mood that carried it. And the plot, the way it slowly unfolded…it was subtle, for the most part, and creepy too…I can’t say enough about this book. It was great. And the ending was vague enough so that you could sort of decide for yourself how it ended.

This book is the one that convinced me that King was…well, king of the genre. :slight_smile:

Favroites:[ul] [li]Dark Tower series (I LOVE ROLAND!!!) []The Talisman []The Eye of The Dragon []Insomnia []The Long Walk (this was so good, I spent time in my hotel room in Paris, fer God sakes, to finish it!) []Gearld’s Game []Rose Madder []ALL his short stories and novelas [/ul]Least favroites:[ul] []'Salem’s Lot (I love Vampires, and I didn’t like how this book portrayed them) []The Cycle of The Werewolf []The Dark Half (didn’t finish it) [/ul]I hate to admit it, but I’ve never read Cujo. Someone stole it from the library before I had the chance.[/li]My father refuses to believe King wrote The Shawshank Redemption. He loved the movie, but thinks that King is evil incarnate and there is nothing to his books but monsters. Bullshit. I tried to get him to read The Gunslinger, but he refused without reason. Sometimes, my dad reminds me of Jack Dean Tyler.
Hmmmm, add ‘read some King’ to list of things to do over thanksgiving break…