# Stephen King, publish your laundry list instead. (RE:After The Sunset)

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**Created:** [February 28, 2009, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-king-publish-your-laundry-list-instead-re-after-the-sunset/487751 "2009-02-28T02:47:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![SSG\_Schwartz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SSG\_Schwartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SSG_Schwartz)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-king-publish-your-laundry-list-instead-re-after-the-sunset/487751/1 "2009-02-28T02:47:12Z")

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I read many years ago that Stephen King was told that if he published his laundry list, his fans would buy it. Well after reading this collection of stories, I almost would have rather read his laundry list, his shopping list, or even his “laminated list.”

FAIR WARNING: TTHERE MAY BE OPEN SPOILERS!!!

Willa: Sounds like a retelling of _That thing you can only say in French._ Ok, so it is a different way to deal with dead people, but same idea. Maybe in his next collection they will end up in the Cooler of Doom.

Gingerbread Girl: Slasher fiction meets Runners World. No real story like I would expect given 60 friggin pages to tell a tale.

Harvey’s Dream: _Sorry, right number_, all over again, just not as good. This was one of two dream stories in the book, and not the only time SRN was retold.

The Things They Left Behind/Graduation Afternoon: Ok, deal with 9/11. I am good with that, but you have a story in this book that is over 20 years old that has never been in a collection. Why did you have to bring up your view of 9/11 all these years later and back-to-back. **In The Things They Left Behind** , I understand that people died and died horribly, but this is seven years later. Thanks for being timely Steve-O.

The New York Times at Special Bargin Rates: _Sorry, Right Number_, again.

Mute: Would have been better told by Bachman. Hell, that would have made a great George Stark, Alexis Machine story. As a King story it kind of fell short.

Now look, I am a true Constant Reader, off and on. I have lived for his short stories however. _The Jaunt, The Raft, Survivor Type,_ Hell, even _Here There be Tygers,_ and many other of his stories are great fiction, but all of these tales fall short. Am I the only one who thinks King should hang it up?

SSG Schwartz

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-king-publish-your-laundry-list-instead-re-after-the-sunset/487751/2 "2009-02-28T03:17:28Z")

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I stopped reading him after _Lisey’s Story_ (“Baby-Luv”).

I couldn’t get the book into the garbage can fast enough.

Went back to Koontz and am loving the \*Odd Thomas \*books.

If I were Steve-O, I’d get out of the mass-market “rat-race” and concentrate on my masterpiece.

I feel sure there’s another _Stand_ in him.

Quasi

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**Author:** ![Terraplane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@Terraplane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terraplane)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-king-publish-your-laundry-list-instead-re-after-the-sunset/487751/3 "2009-02-28T09:08:56Z")

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I haven’t read anything by Steven King since I finished up the Dark Tower series. I figure if he can screw up something he seemed to really care about that badly, I don’t ever want to read something he’s indifferent towards. I’ve never been more disappointed in a book/series in my life. He’s just lost it, completely lost it.

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**Author:** ![Sr\_Siete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Sr\_Siete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sr_Siete)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-king-publish-your-laundry-list-instead-re-after-the-sunset/487751/4 "2009-02-28T10:33:01Z")

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The worst story is, surprisingly, _N._ Surprisingly because it started looking like the books strongest piece, and then…

Horror is a lot like humor. Both narratives need a twist over our reality, and both depend on the timing. Now, imagine a guy that tells you the same joke three times, with barely a variation. And he makes it all part of the same joke: three different bar patrons, they all ask the same exact question to the barman and they all get the same hilarious answer. Almost the same story with the same punchline. That’s what he does here. It’s absurdly clumsy and amateurish and makes me wonder where the hell was his editor.

The ones that I quite enjoyed were his suspense tales, _Gingerbread girl_ and _A very tight place_. Not great literature, but hell, did he had me with my pulse racing.

Books like _Skeleton Crew_ had its clunkers too. All in all, it’s not such a disappointment.

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**Author:** ![Mudshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Mudshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mudshark)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-king-publish-your-laundry-list-instead-re-after-the-sunset/487751/5 "2009-02-28T11:23:11Z")

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I thought that most of the short stories weren’t that bad. My least favorite was _Graduation Afternoon_. As for being timely, I believe most were previously published.

I really think a lot of King’s work has gone downhill since he was hit by the car. _Duma Key_ was pretty good, but most of the rest wasn’t up to his usual standards. Especially the last three books in the _Dark Tower_ series. _Lisey’s Story_ was a chore, the best thing about it was the hardcover design. _Dreamcatcher_ was too long. \* The Cell\* could have been better. The only way that one could have been worse is if someone other than King had written the book.

That being said, I hope _Under the Dome_ is worth the 1500 pages it is rumored to be.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-king-publish-your-laundry-list-instead-re-after-the-sunset/487751/6 "2009-02-28T17:08:39Z")

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I’ve begun listening to King again on unabridged audio after a long break. I’m finding that he has moved beyond describing scenes microsecond by microsecond and is now describing them microsecond by microsecond my microsecond, rewinding, and doing the description over again, microsecond by microsecond, now with a different emphasis. It’s getting depressing – as if Stephen King had written _Groundhog Day_, only with even more depressing thoughts and a hint of the supernatural.

If I make it through _Lisey’s Story_ alive, I think I’ll take another break from King.

_The Colorado Kid_ was interesting in parts, but I disagree with King’s premise that there are mysteries the newspapers won’t print because they can’t find a plausible solution, and that annoys people. But I _do_ find it annoying when writers of fiction print a mystery without a plausible solution.

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-king-publish-your-laundry-list-instead-re-after-the-sunset/487751/7 "2009-02-28T17:13:10Z")

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I agree that _After the Sunset_ sucked. I decided, as an antidote, to read his son Joe Hill’s short story collection _Twentieth Century Ghosts_. It was outstanding. Check it out if you’re interested in creepy, modern horror.

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**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-king-publish-your-laundry-list-instead-re-after-the-sunset/487751/8 "2009-02-28T18:49:17Z")

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I used to buy anything with S. King’s name on it, but not anymore. I liked Lisey’s Story mostly because it was different, but I probably won’t read it twice. I was very unhappy with the conclusion of the Dark Tower series. (One cool Dark Tower related book, however, was Black House written with Peter Straub. That one I liked.)  
As for future S.K. purchases, I will wait for positive reviews.

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**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-king-publish-your-laundry-list-instead-re-after-the-sunset/487751/9 "2009-02-28T19:30:03Z")

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After reading _The Cell_, I don’t think I’ll be able to read anything else by him. I got to the end of it and wondered where the rest of the story was. I know all about “leave them wanting more” but sheesh, at least finish the book.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2009, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-king-publish-your-laundry-list-instead-re-after-the-sunset/487751/10 "2009-02-28T19:45:51Z")

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I enjoyed _N._ the most, it’s the kind of short fiction I used to love from him in the 80s. But all the stories, _N._ included, don’t have any of the resonance his stories had in his prime. I was hoping for a little more science fiction, because I really like the ideas he works into SF, when he chooses to go there. There’s always an element of tragedy or abject horror to it (e.g. The Jaunt, The Long Walk, The Langoliers, etc.)

But still, I’m a sucker for his short fiction, they’re like seeing a good artist’s sketches, which are sometimes more interesting in and of themselves than an epic, finished work. At least I was entertained.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-king-publish-your-laundry-list-instead-re-after-the-sunset/487751/11 "2009-03-01T00:29:03Z")

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I agree, the collection in _Everything’s Eventual_ was better. I still would like to see a movie made out of that story. That said, King has had more good books than bad and I’m willing to keep reading him.

Dean Koontz, on the other hand, lost me. For some reason, I can never remember the titles of his books. Maybe because they’re all basically the same? I did like the one with the genius Golden Retriever…that was good.

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**Author:** ![timbicile59](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aeb1de/32.png) [@timbicile59](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/timbicile59)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-king-publish-your-laundry-list-instead-re-after-the-sunset/487751/12 "2009-03-01T02:37:45Z")

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The Watchers. Dean Koontz is a much better writer. S. King used to be the better story-teller.

Not so much anymore.

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**Author:** ![Mudshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Mudshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mudshark)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2009, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-king-publish-your-laundry-list-instead-re-after-the-sunset/487751/13 "2009-03-01T08:02:16Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> I agree, the collection in _Everything’s Eventual_ was better. I still would like to see a movie made out of that story. That said, King has had more good books than bad and I’m willing to keep reading him.
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> Dean Koontz, on the other hand, lost me. For some reason, I can never remember the titles of his books. Maybe because they’re all basically the same? I did like the one with the genius Golden Retriever…that was good.

I kind of agree. I thought that Koontz’s books _Velocity, The Good Guy_ and _The Husband_ were all pretty much the same thing.
