# Stephen Miller and cosmopolitan bias **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 7, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-miller-and-cosmopolitan-bias/793040 "2017-08-07T21:42:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-miller-and-cosmopolitan-bias/793040/21 "2017-08-07T23:09:14Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > So you are for using The USA’s position of power to enrich itself further rather than to help the people that need it most? “Enrich”? Replace it with “better” and the answer is yes. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-miller-and-cosmopolitan-bias/793040/22 "2017-08-07T23:09:54Z")
Odd. The Republican position is, allegedly, that educated immigrants are desirable. Yet Republicans eschew education as evidenced by their crying about ivory-tower liberal academia. Then they complain about their culture an’ heritage being supplanted by immigrants. Educated immigrants. Who have the educations Republicans oppose. Odd. ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-miller-and-cosmopolitan-bias/793040/23 "2017-08-07T23:10:08Z")
This country is **RUN** on the sweat from nationals and immigrants who have little or no secondary education. Whether or not you’re educated is no indication of whether or not you’ll be a productive member of society. Talk about a “cosmopolitan bias” I think that term applies equally well to people who feel that only educated persons are worthy of the benefits of a life here in the USA. mc ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-miller-and-cosmopolitan-bias/793040/24 "2017-08-07T23:15:03Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > “Enrich”? Replace it with “better” and the answer is yes. Ok, so just fuck those guys that need and would benefit the most from coming in? I admit this line of questioning is a bit loaded. But my point is that I think there has to be a middle of the road solution for the sake of all humanity. Not just “USA, fuck yeah! No poors allowed!” ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-miller-and-cosmopolitan-bias/793040/25 "2017-08-07T23:17:13Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > Ok, so just fuck those guys that need and would benefit the most from coming in? > > I admit this line of questioning is a bit loaded. “A bit”? > [@](#): > > But my point is that I think there has to be a middle of the road solution for the sake of all humanity. Not just “USA, fuck yeah! No poors allowed!” The immigration policy of a country should be for the benefit of the country, not for the benefit of the world. If the two coincide or overlap, great. If not, the benefit of the country takes priority. ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-miller-and-cosmopolitan-bias/793040/26 "2017-08-07T23:21:07Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > The immigration policy of a country should be for the benefit of the country, not for the benefit of the world. If the two coincide or overlap, great. If not, the benefit of the country takes priority. And you’re equating education with benefit, which in my mind detracts from the benefit of the country, so by your reasoning you should not be here. Bon Voyage! mc ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-miller-and-cosmopolitan-bias/793040/27 "2017-08-07T23:25:35Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > Ok, so just fuck those guys that need and would benefit the most from coming in? > > I admit this line of questioning is a bit loaded. But my point is that I think there has to be a middle of the road solution for the sake of all humanity. Not just “USA, fuck yeah! No poors allowed!” Let’s be frank, one reason we give poorer countries so many [billions of dollars in aid](https://www.statista.com/chart/4492/where-the-most-foreign-aid-will-be-spent-in-2016/) is to keep their citizens in their country rather than them coming to the US. ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-miller-and-cosmopolitan-bias/793040/28 "2017-08-07T23:30:24Z")
Wow!You are gonna have to explain that one to me, \*\*Nawth Chucka \*\*! Give me a second to make some popcorn and pour a drink. ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-miller-and-cosmopolitan-bias/793040/29 "2017-08-07T23:58:41Z")
> [@mikecurtis](#): > > Wow!You are gonna have to explain that one to me, \*\*Nawth Chucka \*\*! > > Give me a second to make some popcorn and pour a drink. What are you Wow! about? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2017, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-miller-and-cosmopolitan-bias/793040/30 "2017-08-07T23:58:48Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > There are immigration quotas, and no country can, does, or should bring in unlimited number of immigrants, so priorities are important. I think a priority for more educated immigrants is a good one. There is no need whatsoever for a single quota. Presumably there is an ideal number of folks with mathematics PhDs for the US to invite as immigrants. This number is entirely unrelated to the ideal number of folks with a third grade education that the US should invite as immigrants–or, for that matter, to the ideal number of folks who are fleeing US-enabled drug violence in their home country that the US should invite as immigrants. Priorities are important, and I super-appreciate your pointing that out, Captain Obvious. But the priority you’re setting is like saying, “Which is more important, that I eat Cheerios for breakfast, or that I listen to the radio in my car on the way to work?” They’re unrelated in terms of priority-setting, and doing one doesn’t mean you can’t do the other. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-miller-and-cosmopolitan-bias/793040/31 "2017-08-08T00:01:02Z")
Heh–fun fact: [Anti-cosmopolitan Stephen Miller lives in a $1 million condo in downtown DC in a building with a Gucci shop and the hilariously apt slogan “You are where you live.”](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2017/08/07/stephen-miller-blasted-a-reporter-as-cosmopolitan-but-he-lives-in-a-1-million-citycenter-condo/?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.f5c1ed528404) In case he ever tries to blast the elites, it’s worth pointing out that his daddy’s real-estate company bought the condo for him. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-miller-and-cosmopolitan-bias/793040/32 "2017-08-08T00:09:09Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I am aware that cosmopolitan can be used as a codeword for Jewish in some circles. (It’s similar to how the word urban is sometimes used as a codeword for black.) But from the context, I don’t think it’s the case here. > > I think Miller was using cosmopolitan to connote big city liberal elitists as opposed to Real Americans who live in small towns in the middle of the country. Because people that live in small town America are known for their widespread understanding that English speakers can be found in all parts of the world, or something??!?? Just more WTF from the WH. First the half-assed transgender in the military thing and now this. I think the Trump Show has added a new feature called Double-Down Wednesday. Every Wednesday, with great fanfare, they will announce a brand new ultra regressive piece of policy or pending legislation guaranteed to piss off liberals. But they won’t really pursue it ( mostly because they’re incompetent) so it’ll dominate the news cycle until the weekly Friday Afternoon Surprise takes over and then it’ll be eclipsed by whatever next Wednesday brings. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-miller-and-cosmopolitan-bias/793040/33 "2017-08-08T00:23:07Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > What caught my ear was the use of the phrase, “Cosmopolitan bias.” I had never heard the phrase before and it seemed like a weird turn of phrase for a 31 year-old guy from Santa Monica, CA. So I Googled it and it turns out to be a [white nationalist dog whistle](https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-08-03/cosmopolitan-dog-whistle-word-once-used-nazi-germany-and-communist-russia). > > I’ll repeat for emphasis. The guy who represents Trump’s plans for immigration is dog whistling to white nationalists. > > Try to convince me that I’m reading this wrong. I’m less than 100% open minded on this uberdouche (Miller), but I’m willing to listen. According to [this piece](http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/03/the-ugly-history-of-stephen-millers-cosmopolitan-epithet-215454) in Politico, the term is also tied to anti-Semitic Soviet rhetoric. > [@](#): > > One reason why “cosmopolitan” is an unnerving term is that it was the key to an attempt by Soviet dictator Josef Stalin to purge the culture of dissident voices. In a 1946 speech, he deplored works in which “the positive Soviet hero is derided and inferior before all things foreign and cosmopolitanism that we all fought against from the time of Lenin, ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-miller-and-cosmopolitan-bias/793040/34 "2017-08-08T00:28:33Z")
Steven Miller speaks and looks like a Schutzstaffel officer direct from Central Casting. I literally can’t see him speak without unconsciously muttering under my breath, “Nazis…I hate these guys.”. How anyone can take what he says as anything but barely concealed racist claptrap is beyond my conception. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-miller-and-cosmopolitan-bias/793040/35 "2017-08-08T00:36:22Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > But my point is that I think there has to be a middle of the road solution for the sake of all humanity. Why is the United States responsible for all of humanity? ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-miller-and-cosmopolitan-bias/793040/36 "2017-08-08T00:39:14Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Why is the United States responsible for all of humanity? Humanity is responsible for humanity. Last time I checked, humans live in USA too. Though sometimes it’s hard to tell. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-miller-and-cosmopolitan-bias/793040/37 "2017-08-08T00:42:25Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > So you are for using The USA’s position of power to enrich itself further rather than to help the people that need it most? Wait, are those the only two choices? If so, then, USA, obviously. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-miller-and-cosmopolitan-bias/793040/38 "2017-08-08T00:48:17Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > Humanity is responsible for humanity. Last time I checked, humans live in USA too. Though sometimes it’s hard to tell. You have to remember, **D’Anconia** is not part of humanity. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-miller-and-cosmopolitan-bias/793040/39 "2017-08-08T00:50:28Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > Humanity is responsible for humanity. Last time I checked, humans live in USA too. Though sometimes it’s hard to tell. People are responsible for themselves, and their families. Not ALL OF HUMANITY. Tard. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2017, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-miller-and-cosmopolitan-bias/793040/40 "2017-08-08T00:54:21Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > You have to remember, **D’Anconia** is not part of humanity. Shut up, grandpa. Are you sitting on the pie? I certainly hope so. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-miller-and-cosmopolitan-bias/793040.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stephen-miller-and-cosmopolitan-bias/793040.md?page=3)