# Steve Bannon - odds he will show up on Monday for his trial? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 14, 2022, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-bannon-odds-he-will-show-up-on-monday-for-his-trial/967956 "2022-07-14T16:52:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2022, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-bannon-odds-he-will-show-up-on-monday-for-his-trial/967956/161 "2022-10-22T20:19:24Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > _Criminal_ rules for this case. But that’s a nitpick Oops - my bad. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-bannon-odds-he-will-show-up-on-monday-for-his-trial/967956/162 "2023-02-14T00:57:37Z")
**“Like Master, like Man”** Bannon has learnt from the Master: best way to get a good defence is to stiff your lawyers. > **[Steve Bannon stiffs lawyers amid increased legal peril](https://www.rawstory.com/steve-bannon-2659407114/)** > > Steve Bannon has been stiffing his lawyers who represented him in a series of criminal cases.The former White House chief strategist is trying to find new attorneys to defend him against money laundering and conspiracy to commit wire fraud after... ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-bannon-odds-he-will-show-up-on-monday-for-his-trial/967956/163 "2023-02-14T01:14:52Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Bannon has learnt from the Master: best way to get a good defence is to stiff your lawyers. I don’t think Bannon has the hordes of sycophants willing to foot the bill, unlike his idol. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-bannon-odds-he-will-show-up-on-monday-for-his-trial/967956/164 "2023-02-14T01:25:06Z")
I’ve been struggling to understand why this piece of shit isn’t locked up yet. Appeal my ass. LOCK HIM UP! ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-bannon-odds-he-will-show-up-on-monday-for-his-trial/967956/165 "2023-02-17T01:04:15Z")
The deference given to PAB\* extends to him, for some reason. \*my new nickname for him. Thanks, Chrissy! ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2023, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-bannon-odds-he-will-show-up-on-monday-for-his-trial/967956/166 "2023-11-13T04:10:15Z")
> **['That's so broad': Judge smacks down Bannon lawyer's 'executive privilege' claim](https://www.rawstory.com/that-s-so-broad-judge-smacks-down-bannon-lawyer-s-claim-of-executive-privilege/)** > > Judge Cornelia Pillard grilled an attorney for Steve Bannon about why his client should avoid jail after being found guilty of violating a congressional subpoena from the Jan. 6 Committee. > > At an appeals court hearing on Thursday, Pillard doubted... ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2023, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-bannon-odds-he-will-show-up-on-monday-for-his-trial/967956/167 "2023-11-18T23:20:46Z")
This is in depth coverage of my previous post. I’d skip 5:45 to 8:37 which is audio banter between the judge and lawyer and doesn’t add anything to Michael Popoks commentary. He mentions the “incestuous” nature between the lawyers involved because they have all represented, or ARE representing someone involved in one of the multitude of crimes committed. MeidasTouch(14:00) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAlaFaVYfU8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAlaFaVYfU8) ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2023, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-bannon-odds-he-will-show-up-on-monday-for-his-trial/967956/168 "2023-11-19T01:18:33Z")
[Bannon was sentenced to four months in jail in October 2022 after he was found guilty of two counts of contempt of Congress but has not spent any time in prison pending the result of his appeal](https://www.newsweek.com/steve-bannon-appeal-contempt-congress-trump-1841941) Hmm. I recall someone saying, in a Trump thread, that being released from custody during appeals was rare. Is it really? Or does it depend on the length of the sentence? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2023, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-bannon-odds-he-will-show-up-on-monday-for-his-trial/967956/169 "2023-11-19T01:27:57Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > I recall someone saying, in a Trump thread, that being released from custody during appeals was rare. Is it really? I said that. And in my experience over 20 years, I can only recall one case where bail was granted on appeal where I worked. This was in California at the state level, and Bannon’s case is at the federal level, so it may be different. I will add that in the one case where it was granted, it was a massive mistake on the part of the judge I worked for at the time, who was new to his position on the bench, and the consequences of his decision were horrible. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2023, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-bannon-odds-he-will-show-up-on-monday-for-his-trial/967956/170 "2023-11-19T01:40:14Z")
Among the bail considerations in federal court are whether the defendant has a prior criminal record, her/his ties to the community, and any other factors that bear on the risk of flight. But these are considerations for pretrial bail, so I’ve seen in the hearing transcripts I’ve proofread for federal court reporters. I’ve seen in sentencing hearings that convicted defendants are either handed over to the US Marshal Service right after the hearing (usually these folks are already incarcerated) or given a date at some fairly soon future time to report to prison. I don’t recall proofing any hearings where incarceration was explicitly stayed pending appeal. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2023, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-bannon-odds-he-will-show-up-on-monday-for-his-trial/967956/171 "2023-11-19T01:42:30Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > will add that in the one case where it was granted, it was a massive mistake on the part of the judge I worked for at the time, who was new to his position on the bench, and the consequences of his decision were horrible. Let me guess: it was a conviction for domestic violence, and the perp murdered his partner while out on bail. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2023, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-bannon-odds-he-will-show-up-on-monday-for-his-trial/967956/172 "2023-11-19T02:21:16Z")
Close, but no. It involved child molest. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2023, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-bannon-odds-he-will-show-up-on-monday-for-his-trial/967956/173 "2023-11-19T02:22:45Z")
Gah. Even worse. Only thing worse would be if the perp killed the child(ren) after molestation. Please tell me that’s not what happened. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2023, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-bannon-odds-he-will-show-up-on-monday-for-his-trial/967956/174 "2023-11-19T02:29:02Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Please tell me that’s not what happened. It didn’t, but it ruined the case for retrial and another child was molested in the interim. That whole case was a clusterfuck. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2023, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-bannon-odds-he-will-show-up-on-monday-for-his-trial/967956/175 "2023-11-19T02:31:58Z")
Oy. A clusterfuck indeed. I assume/hope the judge never made such a mistake again. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2023, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-bannon-odds-he-will-show-up-on-monday-for-his-trial/967956/176 "2023-11-19T02:37:44Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Oy. A clusterfuck indeed. I haven’t even said the half of it. Wish I could, but it would make the case too easy to identify. > [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > I assume/hope the judge never made such a mistake again. He didn’t, but not because he learned from his mistake. It was because the entire criminal bar kicked him from every felony criminal case that was assigned to his courtroom from that day forward. He was an excellent civil judge, though. And I’ll drop this hijack now. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2024, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-bannon-odds-he-will-show-up-on-monday-for-his-trial/967956/177 "2024-05-10T14:42:28Z")
the appeals court upholds steve bannon’s contempt conviction! bannon to serve his sentence! ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2024, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-bannon-odds-he-will-show-up-on-monday-for-his-trial/967956/178 "2024-05-10T14:54:08Z")
This is the most detailed article so far. Will be updated, no doubt. > **[Federal appeals court upholds Bannon conviction](https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4656079-steve-bannon-federal-appeals-court-upholds-conviction/amp/)** > > A federal appeals court on Friday denied a bid by one-time Trump adviser Steve Bannon to topple his contempt of Congress conviction, upholding his sentence for failing to comply with a subpoena fro… ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2024, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-bannon-odds-he-will-show-up-on-monday-for-his-trial/967956/179 "2024-05-10T14:59:41Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > the appeals court upholds steve bannon’s contempt conviction! bannon to serve his sentence! This is fantastic news. What a great way to start the day. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2024, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-bannon-odds-he-will-show-up-on-monday-for-his-trial/967956/180 "2024-05-10T15:08:43Z")
Not to pour water over the news, but … … is an inevitable appeal to the Supreme Court coming? One which will delay things another year or so? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-bannon-odds-he-will-show-up-on-monday-for-his-trial/967956.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-bannon-odds-he-will-show-up-on-monday-for-his-trial/967956.md?page=10)