# Steve deGroof **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 24, 2016, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-degroof/766758 "2016-09-24T20:07:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-degroof/766758/1 "2016-09-24T20:07:23Z")
Steve deGroof is apparently the author of the webcomic [treelobsters](http://www.treelobsters.com/), which I wholeheartedly recommend. He also has a book of short stories called _Dandelion Seeds_, which ditto. Yet he doesn’t seem to have a wikipage. It’s hard to find out anything about him on line. Well OK, he does have an [author page on amazon](https://www.amazon.com/Steve-DeGroof/e/B01H3NU66O/ref=dp_byline_cont_pop_ebooks_1), although I’m a tad suspicious of the autobiographical info there. Is the lack of a wikipage something intentional by him or has he just been overlooked by the editors? Or maybe he’s been relegated to the “not notable” bin of history? ---
**Author:** ![sdegroof](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/71e660/32.png) [@sdegroof](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sdegroof)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-degroof/766758/2 "2016-09-25T14:14:50Z")
Not sure Wikipedia would consider me “notable” enough, but you could always try. You’d probably have to overwhelm them with references. Here’s some to get it started, if you’re so inclined… > **[My Top Choices in Science-Oriented WebComics](https://davidbrin.blogspot.com/2011/06/my-top-choices-in-science-oriented.html)** > > A blog about science, technology, science fiction, books, and the future. > **[Sci Fi Visions](https://davidbrin.blogspot.com/2016/05/sci-fi-visions.html)** > > A blog about science, technology, science fiction, books, and the future. [http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/03/04/diluting-felicia](http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/03/04/diluting-felicia) [http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/03/16/astro-noms](http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/03/16/astro-noms) [http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/04/28/tree-lobsters-know-their-astronomers](http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/04/28/tree-lobsters-know-their-astronomers) [http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/04/16/tree-lobsters-accomplishment](http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2012/04/16/tree-lobsters-accomplishment) [http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/12/16/tree-lobsters-of-death](http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/12/16/tree-lobsters-of-death) > **[“Giger Counter” Makes Radiation Detection Surreal](https://hackaday.com/2015/06/08/giger-counter-makes-radiation-detection-surreal/)** > > Here’s a quick question: are Geiger and Giger (as in H.R. Giger, designer of the Alien Xenomorph) pronounced the same? The answer is no. Nevertheless, the late artist has had his name mispron… > **[Rick Astley Clock - Mk II](https://www.instructables.com/Rick-Astley-Clock-Mk-2/)** > > Rick Astley Clock - Mk II: This is a full-scale version of the Rick Astley Clock - a clock shaped like Rick Astley and it chimes "Never Gonna Give You Up" on the hour. > It has the following enhancements: > > Can play multiple audio files. Larger (19"... > **[Giger Counter](https://www.instructables.com/Giger-Counter/)** > > Giger Counter: No, that's not a typo. It's a Geiger counter built in the style of H. R. Giger. It started off as a joke a friend posted on Twitter: > If I ever go to an alien planet, I'm bringing a Giger counter. #ThingsILearnedFomSciFIMovies > ...and... > **[Steve DeGroof](https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/15242009.Steve_DeGroof)** > > Author of Dandelion Seeds, First Lines, and Scatter Plot > **[Steve DeGroof: books, biography, latest update](https://www.amazon.com/stores/Steve%20DeGroof/author/B01H3NU66O)** > > Follow Steve DeGroof and explore their bibliography from Amazon.com's Steve DeGroof Author Page. > **[Bunny and Demon Go on a Picnic (13"x11") by Celia Yost & Steve DeGroof |...](https://www.blurb.com/b/5504054-bunny-and-demon-go-on-a-picnic-13-x11)** > > Find Bunny and Demon Go on a Picnic (13"x11") by Celia Yost & Steve DeGroof at Blurb Books. Bunny and Demon are friends. One fine Saturday, they decided to h... [A Mammoth Undertaking – Mad Art Lab](http://madartlab.com/a-m-undertaking/) [https://twitter.com/treelobsters/status/688071748781223937](https://twitter.com/treelobsters/status/688071748781223937) [Book Review: Dandelion Seeds – Mad Art Lab](http://madartlab.com/book-review-dandelion-seeds/) [http://reprap.org/mediawiki/images/a/a5/A\_History\_of\_RepRap\_Development.pdf](http://reprap.org/mediawiki/images/a/a5/A_History_of_RepRap_Development.pdf) [CA2140962A1 - Folding Stereoscopic Computer Display - Google Patents](https://www.google.com/patents/CA2140962A1?cl=un) So, the author page on Amazon is true… from a certain point of view. [/obiwan] 😃 ---
**Author:** ![sdegroof](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/71e660/32.png) [@sdegroof](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sdegroof)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-degroof/766758/3 "2016-09-25T14:37:45Z")
Almost forgot my stint as screenwriter for Death By Puppets… > **[DeathByPuppets](https://www.youtube.com/user/DeathByPuppets)** > > Share your videos with friends, family, and the world ---
**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-degroof/766758/4 "2016-09-25T17:53:30Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > snip… Is the lack of a wikipage something intentional by him or has he just been overlooked by the editors? Or maybe he’s been relegated to the “not notable” bin of history? You do know that people are not allowed to start or edit their own wiki page don’t you? Sometime else has to start it, and it can be edited by anyone but the person it’s about. ---
**Author:** ![sdegroof](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/71e660/32.png) [@sdegroof](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sdegroof)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-degroof/766758/5 "2016-09-25T18:22:54Z")
Yeah, I wouldn’t dare create a page about myself. And, given what Wikipedia editors view as “notable”, I’m not sure it would pass scrutiny if someone else did. I’ve seen Wikipedia editors trash pages for Bonnie Burton and Jenny Lawson, just because _they_ didn’t consider them important enough. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-degroof/766758/6 "2016-09-25T22:06:17Z")
Well, yes, I did know that people couldn’t write their own page. I thought there were three possibilities: 1. He prefers to remain anonymous and didn’t want a wikipage. Evidence for this is that his name is nowhere to be found on the TreeLobsters page. I discovered the webcomic fairly recently and read through almost all the archive without knowing his name. It was only when I got to his book that I found out what it was. 2. He used to have a wikipage but it was purged. The “not notable” thing. 3. No one’s thought to make a page for him. The “overlooked by the editors” thing. It looks like #3 is the case. And I would jump right on it except for one thing. While I’m technically an editor of Wikipedia, my experience at doing so amounts to adding a single entry to an existing list. While I managed to do so successfully, just doing so took a lot of work to figure out exactly how to do it. Adding a new page looks like to would be an order of magnitude more work and I’m almost certain to get it wrong. I think I should let some more experienced editor do this. (There’s also the fact that I’d be tempted to be a bit irreverent by starting the entry off with “Steve deGroof is an arborial crustacean…”). So if anyone else feels up to adding the page, go for it. ---
**Author:** ![sdegroof](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/71e660/32.png) [@sdegroof](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sdegroof)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-degroof/766758/7 "2016-09-25T22:26:28Z")
I started off Tree Lobsters relatively anonymously. Various reasons, most of which are irrelevant now. Besides, both David Brin and Phil Plait have accidentally revealed my real name on their blogs at one time or other. It’s probably one of the worst-kept secrets in webcomics. 😃 If you want to go ahead and create a wikipedia entry, you have my blessing. All I ask is you get my name right: DeGroof (capitals on D and G)