# Steve Earle

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-earle/120182>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 22, 2002, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-earle/120182 "2002-07-22T06:59:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2002, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-earle/120182/21 "2002-07-23T06:14:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by belladonna \*  
> \*\*Wow, you learn something new every day. Thanks guys.
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> bella \*\*

I concurr. Thanks for the links, folks.

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**Author:** ![tavalla](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tavalla/32/89_2.png) [@tavalla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tavalla)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2002, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-earle/120182/22 "2002-07-23T10:17:29Z")

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Well, on the link that **ignatius\_reilly** posted, there’s a verse of the song in question, written indeed from Lindh’s point of view.

Earle doesn’t really have a history of spotlight-chasing; he just does what he does and makes some good music. _The Hard Way_ is my favourite album of his, although _El Corazon_ is great too.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2002, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-earle/120182/23 "2002-07-23T12:49:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by BarBQSauce \*  
> \*\*I dunno folks, if Foxnews has the lyrics down accurately, I’m not sure how saying that Lindh will “rise into the sky like Jesus” could be written from Lindh’s perspective. \*\*

Does anybody really believe that Earle thinks Lindh is going to ascend into heaven, or is the 2nd coming? Could it be that Earle is making something of a joke here? Seems fairly obvious to me that he is.

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**Author:** ![Kantalooppi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a5b964/32.png) [@Kantalooppi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kantalooppi)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2002, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-earle/120182/24 "2002-07-23T15:49:55Z")

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> I dunno folks, if Foxnews has the lyrics down accurately, I’m not sure how saying that Lindh will “rise into the sky like Jesus” could be written from Lindh’s perspective.

If I remember correctly, Moslems believe Jesus was an important prophet, though not a son of God, and was brought to Heaven by him (alive).

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2002, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-earle/120182/25 "2002-07-24T17:50:46Z")

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I _like_ Steve Earle, his lyrics are humorous and thoughtful by turns.

Having heard the song, I can’t imagine how anyone listening to it critically could possibly think that it was meant to “honour” or “glorify” John Walker Lindh. It seems like CNN, the Post, _et al_, are reporting from the same third-hand account, and go to great lengths to quote from it in a misleading and inflammatory way.

From most of the articles I’ve seen, you can’t even tell that the lyrics are written from a first-person point of view.

One should be able to tell from the opening lines that what follows is not intended to be interpreted as gospel truth:

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> Just an American boy, raised on MTV  
> I’ve seen all them kids  
> In the soda pop ads-  
> None of them looked like me.  
> So I started looking around  
> For a light out of the dim.  
> And the first thing I heard  
> That made sense was the word  
> Muhammad peace be upon him.

The bit about JWL’s assumption is not an assertion of Earle’s, (duh.)

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> And if I should die  
> I’ll rise up in the sky  
> Just like Jesus peace be upon him.

For the love of God, it’s _the blues_. It’s freaking traditional to have the narrative voice describe bad decisions and behaviour that led to ruination. It’s _not_ advocacy.

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> But Allah has some other plan  
> Some secret not revealed  
> Now they’re dragging me back  
> With my head in a sack  
> To the land of the infidels.

If there’s a lesson in the song, (and there certainly doesn’t _have_ to be one,) it’s that shallow consumer culture isn’t enough to give your kids, and you’d better make some attempt to provide spiritual/intellectual nourishment, or who knows where they may turn to fill the void.

[redneck]  
Hangin’s too good fer 'im!  
[/redneck]

**(Insert obligatory rolleyes smiley here.)**

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2002, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-earle/120182/26 "2002-07-24T18:20:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Larry Mudd \*\*\*  
> It’s freaking traditional to have the narrative voice describe bad decisions and behaviour that led to ruination. It’s _not_ advocacy. \*\*

Amen. There are vast amounts of ignorant people who think that simply mentioning something = advocacy.

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**Author:** ![BarBQSauce](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/919ad9/32.png) [@BarBQSauce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BarBQSauce)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2002, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-earle/120182/27 "2002-07-25T02:04:07Z")

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Hi Larry,  
Did you find those lyrics online anywhere, or is that your recollection? I searched many places for those. Ill concede; thoses lyrics are well within my range of good taste. Strike up another victory in the fight against ignorance.  
Thanks to everyone who replied.

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**Author:** ![Daowajan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Daowajan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daowajan)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2002, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-earle/120182/28 "2002-07-25T02:42:52Z")

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[Here’s a link to the full lyrics.](http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=495&ncid=495&e=2&u=/ap/20020723/ap_en_mu/music_john_walker_s_blues_lyrics_1)

I wish I could get a copy of this song, but unfortunately it doesn’t seem to be anywhere.

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