# Steve Martin's Carrie Fisher RIP tweet: does it offend you? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 30, 2016, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919 "2016-12-30T20:09:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/21 "2016-12-30T20:59:04Z")
> [@Tired\_and\_Cranky](#): > > 1. He says, “She turned out to be witty and bright as well.” Is this implying there there was a period of time when she wasn’t witty and bright? Not everyone would agree with this. Perhaps it really suggests that there was a time when he failed to appreciate her wit and brilliance because he was only ogling her and not actually paying attention to what she had to say. This is not a model way to think about or treat women. I just figured he saw her in a movie first, playing a role, and met her in real life later. You can tell if someone is beautiful from a movie; you don’t know they’re witty and bright until you meet them. Not offended. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/22 "2016-12-30T21:00:19Z")
I’m not offended. Maybe some object to the word “creature.” ---
**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/22080_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/23 "2016-12-30T21:01:46Z")
I didn’t think it was offensive, nor was it intended to be. I do get irritated when people focus on physical attributes to the exclusion of everything else. Even worse is “She’s pretty, and believe it or not, she’s smart, too!!” as if the two things were an odd combination. But I read his comment as: he was first struck by her appearance, then he was equally impressed by her wit and intelligence. It doesn’t seem to be an unusual progression. We see first, we meet and converse second, unless we meet on line. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/24 "2016-12-30T21:03:57Z")
I’m a fat ugly girl and I think it’s perfectly acceptable. Nice, even. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/25 "2016-12-30T21:08:29Z")
Yeah, a person would need to work at being offended by that. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/26 "2016-12-30T21:12:17Z")
This is one of the most ridiculous controversies I’ve seen. I think this is one of those verbal ‘land mines’ that came up in one of the discussions on Donald Trump and political correctness. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/27 "2016-12-30T21:16:38Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > Some people look for any excuse to get offended so they can “correct” them. These people are worthless pieces of shit. This is 100% correct in this statement and in life ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/28 "2016-12-30T21:28:10Z")
Good looking and brains. What’s not to like. Yeah, the US has gotten ridiculous with this “I must be offended by everything” trend. I wanna be a victim too! Me, me, me! I’m offended! ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/29 "2016-12-30T21:29:32Z")
[quote=“Sampiro, post:1, topic:775919”] I must admit that I can’t see a thing wrong with it (other than the fact he says _Carrie Fisher she_, I’m guessing a typo)./QUOTE] It might not be. [People, they talk like this now.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=812945) ---
**Author:** ![Patx2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/73ab20/32.png) [@Patx2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patx2)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/30 "2016-12-30T21:38:30Z")
It doesn’t offend me at all.I can also understand how it might make sense. Perhaps they hadn’t been introduced yet, he saw her, and thought she was a beautiful woman. He got to know her and her intelligent, witty personality. I thought it was a kind tribute. ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/31 "2016-12-30T21:52:51Z")
I’d like to add that even if someone managed to find minor offence in it, it is a man expressing his grief about his friend and people should be allowed more leeway then. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/32 "2016-12-30T21:53:33Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#): > > I’m a fat ugly girl and I think it’s perfectly acceptable. Nice, even. So, what’re you doin’ after this thread? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/33 "2016-12-30T21:54:36Z")
The moment you first lay eyes on Carrie Fisher, you can see that she’s beautiful. It takes some conversation to learn that she’s also witty and bright. He said the first thing that he noticed, and then followed up with the later things he noticed. Perfectly reasonable, especially considering that most of the people reading the tweet have not had the opportunity to learn how witty she is, but did already know of her beauty. ---
**Author:** ![Sahirrnee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sahirrnee/32/13937_2.png) [@Sahirrnee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sahirrnee)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/34 "2016-12-30T21:57:05Z")
Not offensive at all. Seems like a normal compliment to me. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/35 "2016-12-30T22:00:45Z")
[Nothing much has changed](http://www.gocomics.com/bloomcounty/1982/11/14) in the last 34 years. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/36 "2016-12-30T22:03:55Z")
I’m somewhat more sensitive about sexism issues, as my posting history will readily show. There was nothing sexist about Steve Martin’s comment at all. Case closed. ---
**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/37 "2016-12-30T22:18:02Z")
Not offensive. Nice. Like some other posters I figured he’d seen her on screen before getting to know her. I got upset thaT Martin was subjected to any shit about his comment. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/38 "2016-12-30T22:20:13Z")
> [@SciFiSam](#): > > I’d like to add that even if someone managed to find minor offence in it, it is a man expressing his grief about his friend and people should be allowed more leeway then. Right. Jesus R2D2 Christ, you’re expressing grief for a friend and may not be at your best, and still it makes you fair game for not using all the right terminologies? Put down the torches and pitchforks, and the duck-weighing scales, villagers. Old fashioned but not offensive. And I’ll be damned if I have to spend the rest of my life walking on eggshells lest Someone On The Internet demand I turn over my Liberal Card. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/39 "2016-12-30T22:20:43Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > > [@Sampiro](#): > > > > I must admit that I can’t see a thing wrong with it (other than the fact he says _Carrie Fisher she_, I’m guessing a typo). > > It might not be. [People, they talk like this now.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=812945) Weird. That was actually my fourth grade teacher’s pet peeve. If somebody said “My dad, he went to the…” she’d cut them off and sharply say “_My dad, he!_” It made me so self conscious that I probably haven’t done it in almost 40 years. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/40 "2016-12-30T22:30:59Z")
I’ve often said that you rarely encounter people who actually want to be offended, but this definitely makes me wonder. I’m about as big a proponent of political correctness as you can be, and I don’t see what’s wrong here. I’d even argue that this might be the case for many people: they first heard of her as that hot Star Wars chick, then later watched her doing witty things. People need to fall back and remember _why_ sexual objectification is sexist. It’s not merely the fact that someone finds someone pretty. This comment was anti-sexist. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919.md?page=3)