# Steve Martin's Carrie Fisher RIP tweet: does it offend you?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 30, 2016, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919 "2016-12-30T20:09:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/41 "2016-12-30T22:45:15Z")

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Without having really read the thread, this is how I see it:

I would say that the biggest male fantasy in nerd-dom is Princess Leia in her bikini. This is also tends to be one of the lasting images from the original trilogy, for better or for worse. The second half is him reminding everyone that underneath all of that she has some real depth. I thought it was a nice sentiment.

I’m a bit confused as to why someone would be offended.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/42 "2016-12-30T23:15:52Z")

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I’m a bit disappointed in Steve Martin. He said something sweet and endearing and let some nameless hacks diminish it. He should re-post it.

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**Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/43 "2016-12-30T23:17:43Z")

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What makes this even more phenomenally stupid is, Steve Martin is one of the most kindest, down to earth celebs our there.

An especially admirable trait when you consider Steve’s profession.

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**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/44 "2016-12-30T23:18:26Z")

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I thought the sentiment was a bit clunky (in a “beauty AND brains, who’da thunk it?” way) , but I wasn’t offended.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/45 "2016-12-30T23:20:40Z")

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> [@drm](#):
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> I would say that the biggest male fantasy in nerd-dom is Princess Leia in her bikini. This is also tends to be one of the lasting images from the original trilogy, for better or for worse. The second half is him reminding everyone that underneath all of that she has some real depth. I thought it was a nice sentiment.
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> I’m a bit confused as to why someone would be offended.

For a certain subset of feminists, it seems that any male publicly expressing any form of physical attraction to women is unacceptable and must be shouted down. See, for example, [when Simon Pegg tweeted his appreciation](https://www.google.com/#q=tweet+leia+cosplay+simon+pegg) of a bevy of Slave Leias.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/46 "2016-12-30T23:23:02Z")

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Publicly commenting on a woman’s physical appearance is generally a bad idea, especially on Twitter and other social media. Few if any benefits for doing it, but a whole lot of potential downsides.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2016, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/47 "2016-12-30T23:23:02Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> I’m a bit disappointed in Steve Martin. He said something sweet and endearing and let some nameless hacks diminish it. He should re-post it.

Agreed, Martin caved way to easily. He should repost it along with a healthy dose of “go pound sand” to anyone who doesn’t like it.

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**Author:** ![Personal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Personal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Personal)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/48 "2016-12-31T00:04:26Z")

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Nothing other than a compliment. People should leave him alone.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/49 "2016-12-31T00:09:45Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Agreed, Martin caved way to easily. He should repost it along with a healthy dose of “go pound sand” to anyone who doesn’t like it.

What he should have said: “Well, excuuuuuuuse me.”

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**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/50 "2016-12-31T00:29:22Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> What he should have said: “Well, excuuuuuuuse me.”

/thread

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/51 "2016-12-31T01:16:46Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Many called it sexist and objectifying and reductive and other such [del]bullshit[/del]adjectives.

Teh Stoopid is strong in them.

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**Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/52 "2016-12-31T01:32:45Z")

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I suspect that the woman who wrote Postcards from the Edge would have told them to get over themselves.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/53 "2016-12-31T01:33:52Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> What he should have said: “Well, excuuuuuuuse me.”

Excellent!

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**Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/54 "2016-12-31T01:40:18Z")

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> [@blondebear](#):
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> A heartfelt missive about a dear friend–not offensive at all.
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> There are a whole lot of people who wake up every morning just looking for something to be offended by, and the internet will happily provide it for them.

Yes.

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**Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/55 "2016-12-31T01:45:26Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> What he should have said: “Well, excuuuuuuuse me.”

If we had a like button, I’d totally press it.

I thought it was a very sweet tribute. I’m starting to think some people have a fetish for being offended.

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**Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/56 "2016-12-31T02:24:26Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Excellent!

Yup. And what you said too SA. “go pound sand”

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**Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/57 "2016-12-31T02:29:10Z")

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And the fact that Steve Martin actually apologized is why liberalism is associated with being a pathetic pussy.

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**Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/58 "2016-12-31T02:40:47Z")

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[Moderating]

I think that should do it for a poll. I had to take my best guess as to the question you wanted for it. Someone vote in it and test it out.

Aside: This is actually the first poll I’ve made, for myself or anyone else.

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**Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/59 "2016-12-31T02:58:20Z")

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I voted “_I do not find this at all outdated and sexist_,” and would like to add I don’t give a furry little rat’s ass if anyone does.

Buck up and grow thicker skins, hissies!

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**Post date:** [December 31, 2016, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steve-martins-carrie-fisher-rip-tweet-does-it-offend-you/775919/60 "2016-12-31T03:30:12Z")

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I dunno, I did actually find it a bit offensive and tasteless given the circumstances. It sort of reads like, ‘when I was young (and she was too), she was beautiful. As time passed she wasn’t beautiful but luckily she became witty and bright with age.’ I can really see both sides of it, the people who find it offensive and those who don’t. I really do get a bit defensive about someone mentioning a woman’s appearance/beauty as a compliment, especially if it’s the first thing said. But I also recognize I have some issues myself with how I see men so I try to take it with a grain of salt. Basically, it could have been worded better, and I do think there’s a small amount of age-related underlying misogyny there but overall not the worst thing in the world.

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