# Steven Sotloff has been beheaded

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-sotloff-has-been-beheaded/697288
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [September 2, 2014, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-sotloff-has-been-beheaded/697288 "2014-09-02T20:07:11Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2014, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-sotloff-has-been-beheaded/697288/1 "2014-09-02T20:07:11Z")

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I think most of us knew this was coming, but a [video has just surfaced](http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/09/02/video-reportedly-shows-beheading-reporter-steven-sotloff-by-isis/) which reportedly shows Steven Sotloff being beheaded.

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### Author: ![EndlessEntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f9ae1b/32.png) [@EndlessEntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EndlessEntropy)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2014, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-sotloff-has-been-beheaded/697288/2 "2014-09-02T20:10:20Z")

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Oh well.

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### Author: ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2014, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-sotloff-has-been-beheaded/697288/3 "2014-09-02T20:37:47Z")

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The President needs to make a decision on Syria, and quick. There is no reason to continue to dither about it, IMO.

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### Author: ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2014, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-sotloff-has-been-beheaded/697288/4 "2014-09-02T20:40:53Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> The President needs to make a decision on Syria, and quick. There is no reason to continue to dither about it, IMO.

Why? Are the Republicans out of things to complain about?

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### Author: ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2014, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-sotloff-has-been-beheaded/697288/5 "2014-09-02T20:43:10Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Why? Are the Republicans out of things to complain about?

Well, there’s always the tan suit mega-issue.

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### Author: ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2014, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-sotloff-has-been-beheaded/697288/6 "2014-09-02T21:06:02Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> The President needs to make a decision on Syria, and quick. There is no reason to continue to dither about it, IMO.

It’s kind of an intractable situation though. We’re not sending in ground troops, and there’s only so much air strikes can do. I just can’t see a solution, unless the locals on the ground can fight better than they have.

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### Author: ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2014, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-sotloff-has-been-beheaded/697288/7 "2014-09-02T21:07:52Z")

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Sounds like they are out of hostages to kill.

Out-of-Power Party response?

“Quick! Let’s send them More…!”

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### Author: ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2014, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-sotloff-has-been-beheaded/697288/8 "2014-09-02T21:46:01Z")

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> [@Count\_Blucher](#):
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> Sounds like they are out of hostages to kill.
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> Out-of-Power Party response?
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> “Quick! Let’s send them More…!”

No, they had another one lined up at the end of the latest film, apparently. Haven’t watched. Where’s the pit thread on how fake it was, btw? (Not that it matters - that’s just how we roll here, isn’t it?)

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### Author: ![common\_good](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@common\_good](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/common_good)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2014, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-sotloff-has-been-beheaded/697288/9 "2014-09-02T21:50:00Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> It’s kind of an intractable situation though. We’re not sending in ground troops, and there’s only so much air strikes can do. I just can’t see a solution, unless the locals on the ground can fight better than they have.

I agree. Who CAN see a solution in this ancient impasse ? An outcome, perhaps. But armageddon seems to be that. Nuts

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### Author: ![Bouncer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Bouncer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bouncer)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2014, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-sotloff-has-been-beheaded/697288/10 "2014-09-02T21:51:50Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Well, there’s always the tan suit mega-issue.

Sorry missed this? Can you give me the Cliff notes?

Regards,  
-Bouncer-

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### Author: ![yanceylebeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yanceylebeef/32/12290_2.png) [@yanceylebeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yanceylebeef)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2014, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-sotloff-has-been-beheaded/697288/11 "2014-09-02T21:57:57Z")

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Obama showed up for a press conference in a tan suit.

That’s it.

It’s akin to The Great Arugula Incident, or one of the many Obama Katrinas that have been suggested. A tempest in a teapot.

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### Author: ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2014, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-sotloff-has-been-beheaded/697288/12 "2014-09-02T22:04:17Z")

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[Here](http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/president-obama-peter-king-tan-suit-rant)

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### Author: ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2014, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-sotloff-has-been-beheaded/697288/13 "2014-09-02T23:07:23Z")

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My preference is that we retaliate in kind. Any Islamic terrorists that are killed by American soldiers, the bodies should be slathered in pork fat, including bacon stuffed into their mouths, and buried in unmarked graves that way, and this should be well publicized.

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### Author: ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2014, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-sotloff-has-been-beheaded/697288/14 "2014-09-02T23:18:03Z")

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> [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](#):
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> My preference is that we retaliate in kind. Any Islamic terrorists that are killed by American soldiers, the bodies should be slathered in pork fat, including bacon stuffed into their mouths, and buried in unmarked graves that way, and this should be well publicized.

Really? Is it 2001 again?

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### Author: ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2014, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-sotloff-has-been-beheaded/697288/15 "2014-09-02T23:20:39Z")

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> [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](#):
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> My preference is that we retaliate in kind. Any Islamic terrorists that are killed by American soldiers, the bodies should be slathered in pork fat, including bacon stuffed into their mouths, and buried in unmarked graves that way, and this should be well publicized.

That would be an awesome thing to do if you wanted to inflame anti-American sentiment among the Muslim world, including the moderates we need on our side. Not sure how it would help us defeat ISIS though.

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### Author: ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2014, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-sotloff-has-been-beheaded/697288/16 "2014-09-02T23:32:10Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> The President needs to make a decision on Syria, and quick. There is no reason to continue to dither about it, IMO.

And what would be that decision, pray tell?

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### Author: ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2014, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-sotloff-has-been-beheaded/697288/17 "2014-09-02T23:35:59Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> And what would be that decision, pray tell?

Beats me, but continuing to think about it is just making him a target for both sides.

My favorite [response](https://www.facebook.com/Truthyism?fref=photo) to the tan suit non-issue (scroll down about halfway).

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### Author: ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2014, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-sotloff-has-been-beheaded/697288/18 "2014-09-02T23:37:17Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> And what would be that decision, pray tell?

Why not armed drones?

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### Author: ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)
#### Post date: [September 2, 2014, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-sotloff-has-been-beheaded/697288/19 "2014-09-02T23:51:30Z")

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> [@yanceylebeef](#):
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> Obama showed up for a press conference in a tan suit.
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> That’s it.
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> It’s akin to The Great Arugula Incident, or one of the many Obama Katrinas that have been suggested. A tempest in a teapot.

The fashionistas are the only people who noticed or cared what color Obama’s suit was. And I think most of them are Democrats.

As for the ISIS fucktards, I’m having trouble thinking of an appropriate response. I’m trying to be the better person, but it’s damn hard. We could start with airstrikes, however. It was rather disheartening to hear that Obama didn’t even authorize reconnaissance drones over Syria until just a few days ago.

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### Author: ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)
#### Post date: [September 3, 2014, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-sotloff-has-been-beheaded/697288/20 "2014-09-03T00:02:34Z")

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Actually, here’s my idea: we launch airstrikes in close coordination with Syrian government forces. I’m sure the Assad regime can be trusted to show ISIS survivors all the mercy that is appropriate.

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