# Steven Universe: Intriguing beyond belief **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 30, 2015, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-universe-intriguing-beyond-belief/716356 "2015-03-30T18:16:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-universe-intriguing-beyond-belief/716356/81 "2015-10-09T22:57:25Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > In that vein multiples of the same gems I wonder if the disaster that was Steven and the Stevens is a bit telling. The Rose quartz gem is I suspect unique. Have you seen the “unaired” pilot episode? The one in a totally different art style with different character designs? The gems have bands around them that seem to denote status, I’ll say no more. I wasn’t sure it was a spoiler…the book is written for kids from Steven’s point of view, like a guide to the show by the show runner. I found it annoying they are putting out info that way. Sorry. There are some official short animations on CN home page that cover how gems are made also. EDIT:When I found out here there was an online only extended opening I went looking and found a lot of non-aired stuff, sorry but I mean anything not shown on TV is a spoiler? ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-universe-intriguing-beyond-belief/716356/82 "2015-10-09T23:20:55Z")
Hadn’t until now! Or the extended opening. Which does address some of my questions to a point. What you wrote was not much of a spoiler … just fearful of what other plot points might be so revealed. ---
**Author:** ![Leiko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Leiko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leiko)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2015, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-universe-intriguing-beyond-belief/716356/83 "2015-10-11T06:52:17Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > A quibble. > > Multiple copies exist for at least some gems. Which we already knew given the Kindergarten. Pearls inclusive. We do not know whether or not there are multiple Rose Quartz gems or multiple Yellow Diamonds … > > Ruby is small but then Amethyst is clearly a not large warrior. > > A little apparent contradiction in the show … it sure seems like Amethyst has physically grown from the flashbacks to now but at Kindergarten she fit into the “me-shaped” hole. > > Also confirmed this ep is that ep’s theme repeated. Disagreeing that only Steven gets to be a unique individual, unlike the other gems. The subversiveness of Earth and its impact on Rose was that who they each are are as gems is _not_ ordained by their gem type. Amethyst was created as a “mistake” and grew to become something much more. Pearl has become more than a low caste pretty status symbol but both a skilled fighter and a skilled technician. Steven’s impact more than anything is to catalyze that ability to change, to grow in ways not part of original “programming.” > > In that vein multiples of the same gems I wonder if the disaster that was Steven and the Stevens is a bit telling. The Rose quartz gem is I suspect unique. Regarding Amethyst’s size- there’s nothing to indicate that size can’t be changed during regeneration. Amethyst could easily have been created at one size under Homeworld’s plan. Then when her behavior gets her poofed, maybe at some point after she learned about humans, she could easily choose to regenerate in a smaller form. This could be conscious, to try to be more like humans, or subconscious, showing her lack of confidence in herself. Then as she gained more confidence, probably at some point when Steven is at most a toddler, Amethyst steps up and moves into her “grown up size” after getting poofed. This is a theory only, and it’s probably totally wrong. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2015, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-universe-intriguing-beyond-belief/716356/84 "2015-10-17T02:39:55Z")
Decent theory but now we know … she “should” be a much bigger warrior but was probably in the ground too long. Not sure if they meant for us to perceive flashback Amethyst as smaller rather than just younger and more immature. Meanwhile they are spending a lot of show telling energy on Peridot’s growth and gradual connection building. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2015, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-universe-intriguing-beyond-belief/716356/85 "2015-10-25T17:26:15Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Decent theory but now we know … she “should” be a much bigger warrior but was probably in the ground too long. Not sure if they meant for us to perceive flashback Amethyst as smaller rather than just younger and more immature. > > Meanwhile they are spending a lot of show telling energy on Peridot’s growth and gradual connection building. I fear they are setting up a twist here, where we assume Peridot will betray them to homeworld but she doesn’t and instead Amythyst does instead feeling betrayed by the team. Honestly how old is Steven anyway? 8-10? Maybe before it was ok, but now that homeworld is paying attention to earth again Greg and the gems need to sit him down and tell him everything they know, doing otherwise is crazy. Embarrassment at being a former slave or having a socially disapproved sexuality could hurt Steven badly, I’m kinda glad this isn’t a more “realistic” show because that could end bad. ---
**Author:** ![Agothnic\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Agothnic\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agothnic_Quinn)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2015, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-universe-intriguing-beyond-belief/716356/86 "2015-10-28T02:09:01Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > Is this on Netflix or something like that? > > I’d love to see it from the beginning and watch whatever happened before the giant hand robot when I came into the series I think it’s on hulu, if not I’d try KissCartoon. We’re on a two month hiatus so you have plenty of time to catch up. ---
**Author:** ![bmoak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@bmoak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bmoak)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2015, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-universe-intriguing-beyond-belief/716356/87 "2015-11-03T04:26:04Z")
I started watching this show a few weeks ago thanks to this thread and binge-watched the entire series over the weekend. It’s been a while since a cartoon has impressed me this much, although if I started from the beginning, I probably wouldn’t have liked it as much. > [@Leiko](#): > > Regarding Amethyst’s size- there’s nothing to indicate that size can’t be changed during regeneration. Amethyst could easily have been created at one size under Homeworld’s plan. Then when her behavior gets her poofed, maybe at some point after she learned about humans, she could easily choose to regenerate in a smaller form. This could be conscious, to try to be more like humans, or subconscious, showing her lack of confidence in herself. Then as she gained more confidence, probably at some point when Steven is at most a toddler, Amethyst steps up and moves into her “grown up size” after getting poofed. This is a theory only, and it’s probably totally wrong. Amethyst spent too long incubating in the ground and came out a lot smaller than than she was engineered to be. Also, she emerged all alone in the kindergarten and was stranded there for who-knows-how-long before Rose and the Crystal Gems found her and took her in. Also, according to “Too Many Birthdays”, gems are as old as they feel they are. With Rose as a mother figure and being the literal baby of the group, Amethyst was content to remain a child. At some point, she matured into her present form (which in body language, posture, and attitude is entirely adolescent), either because she had to grow up a little after Rose’s death, or perhaps because she was hanging around humans like Vidalia enough that it was awkward to be a little kid. ---
**Author:** ![bmoak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@bmoak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bmoak)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2015, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-universe-intriguing-beyond-belief/716356/88 "2015-11-09T04:32:00Z")
Does anyone know when new episodes start again? ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2015, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-universe-intriguing-beyond-belief/716356/89 "2015-11-09T05:35:43Z")
I don’t think an air date has been announced. ---
**Author:** ![Leiko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Leiko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leiko)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2015, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-universe-intriguing-beyond-belief/716356/90 "2015-11-09T07:37:27Z")
Word is no return until 2016, but there’s nothing more detailed than that so far. ---
**Author:** ![bmoak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@bmoak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bmoak)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-universe-intriguing-beyond-belief/716356/91 "2015-11-19T03:27:48Z")
Kind of a bummer that they are no new episodes for the foreseeable future, now that ths show is getting a lot more focused on the Cluster storyline. ---
**Author:** ![bmoak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@bmoak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bmoak)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-universe-intriguing-beyond-belief/716356/92 "2015-12-04T04:48:15Z")
Can anyone spoil the last few minutes of “Too Far” for me? It hasn’t shown up in my iTunes Season pass and on my Cable On Demand cuts out when Peridot saves Amethyst from the runaway drill. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-universe-intriguing-beyond-belief/716356/93 "2015-12-04T18:18:47Z")
> [@bmoak](#): > > Can anyone spoil the last few minutes of “Too Far” for me? It hasn’t shown up in my iTunes Season pass and on my Cable On Demand cuts out when Peridot saves Amethyst from the runaway drill. IIRC- Well… the sexual tension between the two is pretty thick at that point. Amethyst thanks Peridot but coyly still calls her a “nerd” over her shoulder as she walks that short bootie away. Steven ask Peridot how she feels and she says “I feel… cool.” ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-universe-intriguing-beyond-belief/716356/94 "2015-12-04T18:45:45Z")
Assuming that it did not cut out before you heard Peridot apologizing to Amethyst via a recording on her cassette log. You can stream it [link removed] if you want. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-universe-intriguing-beyond-belief/716356/95 "2015-12-04T19:31:52Z")
Please don’t post sites that stream shows or movies illegally. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2015, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-universe-intriguing-beyond-belief/716356/96 "2015-12-04T19:50:25Z")
Sorry, had not even thought that it might be an illegal site. But of course. D’oh. ---
**Author:** ![bmoak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@bmoak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bmoak)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2015, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-universe-intriguing-beyond-belief/716356/97 "2015-12-05T00:24:10Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > IIRC- > Well… the sexual tension between the two is pretty thick at that point. > > Amethyst thanks Peridot but coyly still calls her a “nerd” over her shoulder as she walks that short bootie away. Steven ask Peridot how she feels and she says “I feel… cool.” Thanks. My cable feed cut out when Pearl was shouting about how she can’t leave them alone for a second. ---
**Author:** ![bmoak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@bmoak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bmoak)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2015, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-universe-intriguing-beyond-belief/716356/98 "2015-12-08T01:44:49Z")
Just for kicks, [Here’s](http://stevencrewniverse.tumblr.com/post/133028364542/stevensugar-beach-city-delmarva-a-little-over) the official map of Beach City, Delmarva from the the Steven Crewniverse blog. ---
**Author:** ![bmoak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@bmoak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bmoak)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-universe-intriguing-beyond-belief/716356/99 "2015-12-20T03:32:27Z")
New episodes start January 4th! ---
**Author:** ![bmoak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@bmoak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bmoak)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-universe-intriguing-beyond-belief/716356/100 "2016-01-05T04:00:28Z")
New episode aired tonight as part of a weeklong Steven Bomb. “The Answer” has Garnet telling the story of how Ruby and Sapphire met and joined the Crystal Gems. It’s told in a somewhat stylized style, with the already-known characters (Ruby, Sapphire, Garnet, Pearl, Rose Quartz) with their regular designs and voices and the incidental characters and background done in silhouette with Garnet provides their voices along with the narration. Interesting points: -Blue Diamond is in this episode, but we don’t see her (hidden behind a veiled palanquin) or hear her (Garnet provides the voice in her story). We see her Pearl, though. -Sapphire was a high ranking gem and a member of Blue Diamond’s court, which explains her frou-frou princess dress and opera gloves. -Sapphire was summoned to Earth in the early days of the rebellion specifically to provide her future vision. She came with three Ruby bodyguards, one of which was our Ruby. -Sapphire’s initial prophecy was that the Crystal Gems would attack their present location (The Sky Arena), and would be defeated, ending the rebellion, but only after a certain number of gems, including two Rubies and Sapphire herself, were destroyed. Sapphire is very fatalistic about this. -Rose and Pearl sure know how to make an entrance and fight. Rose takes down the fused Rubies with one shot, and Pearl takes out several larger gems and is prepared to cut down a passive Sapphire before Our Ruby intervenes by jumping to protect Sapphire and ends up fusing with her accidentally, invalidating her earlier prophecy. -Confirmed that, while fusion among gems of the same type is common on Homeworld, fusion with a different type of gem is seen as anathema. Blue Diamond actually sentences Ruby to death for daring to fuse with a high status gem, which causes Sapphire to flee with Ruby and defect. -Everything about Ruby and Sapphire in the is ep is awesome. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-universe-intriguing-beyond-belief/716356.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/steven-universe-intriguing-beyond-belief/716356.md?page=6)