# Stevie Nicks. Cocaine. Rectum. Fact? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [May 22, 2006, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-cocaine-rectum-fact/357779 "2006-05-22T17:46:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2006, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-cocaine-rectum-fact/357779/21 "2006-05-23T00:22:03Z")
[QUOTE=RJKUgly] Not as a powder, however. What I saw was people mix a small amount of coke with an ounce or so of water, then use a turkey-baster (or one of those little squeeze bulb things made to suck junk out of baby’s noses or ears) and squirt the mixture in. [/QUOTE] So basically, it’s like a coke enema? I seem to recall we had a thread a while ago about ingesting alcohol rectally, that somehow it made one get drunk faster. Is that the case here? ---
**Author:** ![Capa84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8edcca/32.png) [@Capa84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capa84)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2006, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-cocaine-rectum-fact/357779/22 "2006-05-23T00:27:54Z")
MDMA use rectally is definately not an urban legend. Absorption rates orally are around 50-60%, nasally around 80% and rectally around 90% ---
**Author:** ![tygerbryght](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9a28c/32.png) [@tygerbryght](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tygerbryght)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2006, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-cocaine-rectum-fact/357779/23 "2006-05-23T00:38:02Z")
I don’t know much about drug use of this sort. However, I do recall reading an article in _Natural History_ about 12-18 years ago that in one of the Meso-American groups (Maya?), the warriors’ method of getting (imbibing or ingesting don’t quite seem to be the right words) beer into their bodies was via enema. The author(s) seemed convinced that this would be an extremely effective way of getting the alcohol directly into the bloodstream, much more so than drinking it. I think he/she/they also mentioned that it had a far greater probability of killing the recipient by alcohol toxicity, since - unlike drinking it - the alcohol would **not** be subject to modification by the liver before going into general circulation. (I add this to discourage experimentation; we’d rather nobody proves the author(‘s/s’) point, thanks.) It stuck in my mind because it was the first time I’d ever read that any of the new world peoples even made any kind of alcoholic beverage; I assume it was made of corn. When I was waiting for the doctors to find a treatment that would fix, or even give relief from, the continuous severe headache that followed my second closed-head injury, I had a drug suppository for use when it was _really_ bad. It had to be taken that way because vomiting was a side effect, at intervals of 20-45 minutes for 4-6 hours. Obviously, I didn’t want to use it very often; I had to be hurting so bad I literally couldn’t stand it anymore. But it did give me some hours of blessed relief from the headache. Of course, the obligatory worship of the porcelain goddess, even when I had no offerings left in me, wasn’t much fun. :dubious: Obviously, since cocaine is more insidious in its damage, and not intrinsically poisonous to the system in the same way as alcohol is at or above a certain level, I have no idea what kind of drug high would result. However, it seems reasonable that it would work, since the intestinal mucosa are supposed to be the most sensitive, or among the most sensitive. I’ve forgotten which. I assume that **QtM** can tell us which. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JimOfAllTrades](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@JimOfAllTrades](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JimOfAllTrades)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2006, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-cocaine-rectum-fact/357779/24 "2006-05-23T00:56:14Z")
[QUOTE=Guinastasia] So basically, it’s like a coke enema? [/QUOTE] I guess you could say that, but it’s a very small amount that you expect to just be absorbed, not pushed back out. [QUOTE=Guinastasia] I seem to recall we had a thread a while ago about ingesting alcohol rectally, that somehow it made one get drunk faster. Is that the case here? [/QUOTE] I don’t know. I do know they said the effect was faster and stronger, but as I said in a previous post, I sometimes had my doubts about the real motives. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2006, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-cocaine-rectum-fact/357779/25 "2006-05-23T01:15:36Z")
[QUOTE=Capa84] MDMA use rectally is definately not an urban legend. Absorption rates orally are around 50-60%, nasally around 80% and rectally around 90% [/QUOTE] Cite? ---
**Author:** ![edwino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@edwino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwino)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2006, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-cocaine-rectum-fact/357779/26 "2006-05-23T01:52:46Z")
Rectal, sublingual, and nasal approaches all get around liver first pass metabolism. This is why if something is mucosally absorbed or lipophilic, it is often more efficacious to use it in these routes. Another thing not mentioned is that cocaine, IIRC, is a pretty potent local mucosal anesthetic (like its cousins benzocaine or novocaine). I suppose nasally and rectally this wouldn’t be much of a problem but for a band singer, I don’t think you would want to have a numb mouth and tongue. Think about how well you speak after having a cavity filled. Not that Stevie Nicks was ever really big on the whole enunciation thing, but this would just add insult to injury. ---
**Author:** ![edwino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@edwino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwino)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2006, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-cocaine-rectum-fact/357779/27 "2006-05-23T01:55:56Z")
I meant topical, and I remember now that ENTs still use cocaine when they are looking around in the back of the throat. Llello! ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2006, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-cocaine-rectum-fact/357779/28 "2006-05-23T02:04:24Z")
> [@](#): > > Take a packet of sweet-n-low. Divide it into 5 or 10 piles. One of those piles. And it melts in your mouth very quickly. Take a equal volumn of sand and it won’t. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2006, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-cocaine-rectum-fact/357779/29 "2006-05-23T02:09:46Z")
Well, here’s an [article](http://www.theage.com.au/news/Music/True-lies-the-facts-of-rocknroll-fantasy/2005/03/03/1109700605329.html) on rock ‘n’ roll urban legends from an Australian newspaper. About Nicks, it says: > [@](#): > > Stevie Nicks having cocaine blown up her bum > > It’s tempting to believe Fleetwood Mac’s queen bee followed her addiction to such deliciously depraved depths - but sadly, untrue. “That’s absurd,” Nicks said in 2001. “Maybe it came about because people knew I had such a big hole in my nose. Let’s put a belt through my nose, because that’s how big the hole is.” So she just talks through her arse, then. Maybe. Not sure what the exact provenance of the article is, as this paragraph pops up at various places on the internet. ---
**Author:** ![Capa84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8edcca/32.png) [@Capa84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capa84)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2006, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-cocaine-rectum-fact/357779/30 "2006-05-23T03:09:45Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] Cite? [/QUOTE] For which part? Rectal use? Ok, I have both seen and done it. As for absorption rates, these are generally accepted numbers in the MDMA using community, although since the US Government has scheduled MDMA at level 1, there will never be any testing to find out. ---
**Author:** ![chaoticbear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f07891/32.png) [@chaoticbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chaoticbear)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2006, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-cocaine-rectum-fact/357779/31 "2006-05-23T04:40:06Z")
[QUOTE=kanicbird] Take a equal volumn of sand and it won’t. [/QUOTE] Sand isn’t an easily water-soluble ionic crystal. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2006, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-cocaine-rectum-fact/357779/32 "2006-05-23T11:31:19Z")
[QUOTE=Qadgop the Mercotan] Dave Barry said to stop doing that… [/QUOTE] He never heard such a great band name as “Rectal Opium.” ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2006, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-cocaine-rectum-fact/357779/33 "2006-05-23T12:51:18Z")
I know a guy who had to be operated on for hemmeroids, and he swears that is how he got them. And that is about the nicest thing I can say about him. ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2006, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-cocaine-rectum-fact/357779/34 "2006-05-23T14:14:09Z")
I knew a woman who claimed that one of her big turn ons was to scoop out a ball of butter, hollow that out and put some coke in it and freeze it. Then she would place it in her rectum (where it would melt) and engage in anal sex “for hours.” I never tried it with her. ---
**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2006, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-cocaine-rectum-fact/357779/35 "2006-05-23T14:21:56Z")
A quick [warning](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=3239554&dopt=Abstract) for those with an experimental bent. ---
**Author:** ![Madd\_Maxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Madd\_Maxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Madd_Maxx)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2006, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-cocaine-rectum-fact/357779/36 "2006-05-23T16:53:57Z")
[QUOTE=Khadaji] I knew a woman who claimed that one of her big turn ons was to scoop out a ball of butter, hollow that out and put some coke in it and freeze it. Then she would place it in her rectum (where it would melt) and engage in anal sex “for hours.” I never tried it with her. [/QUOTE] Huh? What about the whole “Fighting Ignorance” thing? I’m sorry, but you are going to have to step up to the plate here and take one for the team. Either that or give me her number and I’ll do it for you. You’re lucky I got your back like that. Wouldn’t it make your butt numb though? [/Comfortably Numb] ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2006, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-cocaine-rectum-fact/357779/37 "2006-05-23T17:07:59Z")
No cite–neither the memory nor the time–but cocaine on your penis is a Very Bad Thing and can lead to penile damage. I’ll try to look it up later if I get the chance. ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2006, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-cocaine-rectum-fact/357779/38 "2006-05-23T18:02:55Z")
[QUOTE=don’t ask] A quick [warning](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=3239554&dopt=Abstract) for those with an experimental bent. [/QUOTE] In all seriousness, was there a medically relevant reason to mention the man’s sexual orientation? I don’t get the connection. ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2006, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-cocaine-rectum-fact/357779/39 "2006-05-23T18:38:53Z")
[QUOTE=Madd Maxx] Huh? What about the whole “Fighting Ignorance” thing? I’m sorry, but you are going to have to step up to the plate here and take one for the team. Either that or give me her number and I’ll do it for you. You’re lucky I got your back like that. Wouldn’t it make your butt numb though? [/Comfortably Numb] [/QUOTE] This was about 25 years ago. I was a sophmore in college and rather clueless when it came to women (hell, I still am. 🙂 ) I only remember her first name - Chris. This same woman said she would do \*anything \*for coke. It only dawned on me later that she probably thought I had a coke connection and was hinting around. I guess I had roommates that could have hooked her up, but my drug of choice has always been beer. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Clam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3bc359/32.png) [@Happy\_Clam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Clam)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2006, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-cocaine-rectum-fact/357779/40 "2006-05-23T18:41:44Z")
[QUOTE=Asimovian] In all seriousness, was there a medically relevant reason to mention the man’s sexual orientation? I don’t get the connection. [/QUOTE] “Relax the sphincter muscles”? (From the article) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-cocaine-rectum-fact/357779.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-cocaine-rectum-fact/357779.md?page=3)