# Stevie Nicks on SNL

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** talk-variety-show\
**Created:** [October 13, 2024, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-on-snl/1008733 "2024-10-13T21:48:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-on-snl/1008733/21 "2024-10-14T06:59:07Z")

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My reason for posting this was the following:

I was surprised to see she was on SNL because

-They usually try to showcase new artists or those pushing their current songs  
-I didn’t know she had new music out  
-Many artists of that generation mostly do “nostalgia tours”

I was surprised at her performance because

-I expected something like EO17, a decent vocal but nowhere near her prime but an audience favorite for the older generation  
-While I usually listen to the musical acts, that is when I check my phone, take a bathroom break etc  
-She drew me in with her performance and her passion  
-The song is actually a bit of an earworm  
-I really felt her as an old warrior reaching out to advise a new generation and I found that more relevant to modern audiences than her just doing her greatest hits

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**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-on-snl/1008733/22 "2024-10-14T10:54:48Z")

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> [@Sylvanz](#):
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> I wonder why you seem to be surprised that “She did not embrassess(sp) herself…”

I have been to many of the older acts from the 70’s and 80’s that how should I say, underwelmed me and embarrased me for the performer. I saw Eddie Van Halen before he died and it made me sad to see how out of shape he had become. Same with Peter Gabriel, I felt sorry for both of them. So I don’t go and see my old time favorites anymore, I’d prefer to remember them as they were.

Now Santanta and ELO did impress me, even though they were older they still rocked. But Santana actually sat down or leaned agasint an amp for the most of the show. Jeff Lynn just sort of stood there and played guitar and orchastrated, but that is what he always did. 🙂

I wish that I had seen Stevie on her latest and probably last tour. But I did see her in the 80’s and she was stunning. At least I have that.

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**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-on-snl/1008733/23 "2024-10-14T12:00:55Z")

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Well, 3 of us were watching (my wife and 33 yr old dtr). 1/2 way thru the 1st song, one of us commented, “This is boring,” and the other 2 agreed. Never was a Fleetwood Mac or Stevie Nicks fan (tho like Lyndsey Buckingham.)

> [@Deanna\_D](#):
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> Not to mention–how does she still look that amazing?

Again, 3 for 3 in casa Dinsdale thought she looked ridiculous.

Man, Waddy gets around.

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**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-on-snl/1008733/24 "2024-10-14T13:10:43Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> You think she should continue to pay for something that happened 40 years ago? As far as I know she’s been clean for decades. The worst issue at her concerts now is that she tends to be a bit longwinded during her introductions to her songs.

Where did I say that? A few people said they had heard she had problems back then but hadn’t seen any of those shows. I did see one, and described what I could recall of it. I haven’t paid much attention to her in the intervening years, and I’m glad to hear she pulled out of whatever problems she was having and is doing well and still performing.

I don’t see how you can infer anything about my wanting her to “pay” from what I posted.

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**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-on-snl/1008733/25 "2024-10-14T13:34:09Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> @Thudlow_Boink it was the usual spacing?

When they came back from commercial, as usual a title card with Stevie’s picture was displayed on screen, but it just stayed there, for about a minute, and then they went to another commercial.

> [@flurb](#):
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> Word is that it was a sound board issue.

I found [this Reddit thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/1g2i8lg/did_something_happen_on_set_before_steve_nicks/) with a description from someone who was in the audience.

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> Audience member here, we were all concerned after the prompter told Ariana “and 5, 4, 3,2…” then nothing happened
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> everyone in the studio was dead silent for a good minute and we can see Ariana and Stevie looking at each other like “what’s going on”,
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> like 10 seconds after, it got more concerning when a stage lead told Ariana to step down the stage, and we were all like “is something going on” (honestly thought something bad happened in the studio and they had to end the show early, but good thing that didn’t happen)
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> a minute later, the same stage lead made Ariana walk back on the stage and said “2 minutes”, and we all sat and waited while Ariana was saying “1 minute”, “40 seconds” “twenty” and everytime she did that, the audience started laughing
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> after that the show was back in session

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**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-on-snl/1008733/26 "2024-10-14T13:59:03Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> When they came back from commercial, as usual a title card with Stevie’s picture was displayed on screen, but it just stayed there, for about a minute,

Ah. Got it. I had paused a bit earlier and was fast forwarding at that point.

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**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-on-snl/1008733/27 "2024-10-14T15:30:04Z")

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My mileage did vary.

I thought the song reminded me of Gilda Radner doing her Patti Smith impersonation “Candy Slice”. It sounded more like an SNL parody than a real song.

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**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-on-snl/1008733/28 "2024-10-14T16:46:09Z")

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I just watched her “Edge of Seventeen” out of curiosity, and she did a very good job, well performed. Her enunciation was actually improved over the original studio version, which is often the opposite with live performances.

“Just like the one-winged dove, spins around in circles spinning…”

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**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-on-snl/1008733/29 "2024-10-14T21:04:37Z")

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> [@GargoyleWB](#):
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> Just like the one-winged dove, spins around in circles spinning…”

Kinda like how Jimi Hendrix kissed that guy?

("Sings a song, sounds like she’s singin’ ")

> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> Well, 3 of us were watching (my wife and 33 yr old dtr). 1/2 way thru the 1st song, one of us commented, “This is boring,” and the other 2 agreed.

Jesus, the lyrics brought me to tears.

I guess, if what the performance is about doesn’t impact your (or your wife’s, or your grown daughter’s) life, then … well, sometimes artistic efforts aren’t for everyone.

I wish your wife & daughter all the best.

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**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-on-snl/1008733/30 "2024-10-14T21:33:53Z")

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> [@GargoyleWB](#):
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> Just like the one-winged dove,

That has always been, and will always be, the actual lyric for me.

Considering the title of the song itself comes from a misunderstanding due to a southern accent, I find that acceptable.

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**Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-on-snl/1008733/31 "2024-10-14T21:42:29Z")

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> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> Jesus, the lyrics brought me to tears.

I never was (and still am not) a “lyrics person.” If I’m not digging the melody/instrumentation/vibe/groove, the best lyrics in the world aren’t going to make it for me. It is a pretty exceptional song for which I know all of the words. Elvis Costello is one of few artists whose lyrics I like and know. For most songs, I’ll only know a line or 2 out of songs I feel I know well.

And, I’m not an overly emotional person. The idea of a lyric bringing me to tears is completely foreign to me.

I do play - and sing - a great deal of bluegrass and oldtime music. But singing and playing with others has made clear to me that different people hear music differently. Which is fine.

For this song, from the start the whole presentation impressed me as over-the-top dramatic, and the instrumentation was (IMO) quite boring. So when she started singing, it was just another overly emotive tone line.

Not saying anyone else ought to experience it that way. Just trying to explain.

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> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> I wish your wife & daughter all the best.

Sorry to butt in, but is the above in response to the ladies finding it boring?

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**Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-on-snl/1008733/33 "2024-10-15T05:57:09Z")

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It makes sense that people who listen more to the music did not like it as much. I’m usually a lyrics person except when the hook is so catchy I don’t care.

Also, I maintain it’s “Just like the wandering dove…”

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**Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-on-snl/1008733/34 "2024-10-15T13:09:07Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> I never was (and still am not) a “lyrics person.” If I’m not digging the melody/instrumentation/vibe/groove, the best lyrics in the world aren’t going to make it for me. It is a pretty exceptional song for which I know all of the words.

Me too !

Fleetwood Mac fans are speculating about … something …

> **[Fleetwood Mac fans in frenzy after sudden flurry of band activity](https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/fleetwood-mac-reunion-instagram-stevie-nicks-b2629456.html)**
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> New social media activity comes as Stevie Nicks performs on ‘Saturday Night Live’ for the first time in 41 years

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> [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#):
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> As to her first song, it sure isn’t subtle. Though I agree with the message, I don’t care for it as a whole. Just seemed like a string of things one would yell at a political rally, but with instruments in the background. I couldn’t really detect a melody or rhythm.

This is my opinion of it too. I felt a bit of cringe watching it live, like she was just trying _so hard_ to make a big political anthem for the younger generations. Admittedly, while I do like Fleetwood Mac, I typically skip past the Nicks songs. I guess I just am not a fan of Stevie.

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> And, I’m not an overly emotional person. The idea of a lyric bringing me to tears is completely foreign to me.

My I suggest _Cats in the Cradle_ perhaps. (I’m joking, somewhat). The actual song that brings me to tears is _Forever Young_ by Dylan.

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**Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stevie-nicks-on-snl/1008733/37 "2024-10-15T16:26:47Z")

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At first listen, I thought it was about death (not unlike the Edge of Seventeen, coincidentally. Ooh baby oo.)

I have my scars, you have yours  
Don’t let them take your power  
Don’t leave it alone in the final hours  
They’ll take your soul, they’ll take your power  
Don’t close your eyes and hope for the best  
The dark is out there, the light is going fast

Maybe about suicide as a way to avoid the pain of a long, lingering death.

I don’t usually get these things right, though.

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Y’all, [watch the video](https://youtu.be/lJDCYh5iWQs?feature=shared&t=30) or [read the lyrics](https://genius.com/Stevie-nicks-the-lighthouse-lyrics).

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Thanks for the link; unfortunately that does not improve it. If I heard that on the radio I would think “what’s wrong with Kate Bush’s voice?”

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I’m not saying it’s a good song. It was more to point out the meaning of the song.

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