# Sticky needed for creation of I HATE X threads **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [November 13, 2012, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sticky-needed-for-creation-of-i-hate-x-threads/640892 "2012-11-13T15:41:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BwanaBob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bwanabob/32/2985_2.png) [@BwanaBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BwanaBob)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sticky-needed-for-creation-of-i-hate-x-threads/640892/1 "2012-11-13T15:41:36Z")
Could the mods please consider a sticky in all forums that basically states if you start any thread that is based on disliking something, that you must include a counter example of something you do like, to give context. I HATE THE BEATLES - so what? I HATE THE BEATLES but LOVE THE WHO - okay, can see where you are coming from I HATE THE BEATLES but LOVE JUSTIN BIEBER - going to be an interesting trainwreck After years of these threads I realize that they invariably waste my time because people don’t know how or are unwilling to back up their tastes. Please make them. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sticky-needed-for-creation-of-i-hate-x-threads/640892/2 "2012-11-13T16:05:28Z")
If you know they’re a waste of time, you could probably do something drastic… like ignoring them. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sticky-needed-for-creation-of-i-hate-x-threads/640892/3 "2012-11-13T16:07:30Z")
> [@BwanaBob](#): > > After years of these threads I realize that they invariably waste my time because people don’t know how or are unwilling to back up their tastes. > > Please make them. Put me down for “don’t know how” and “unwilling.” ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sticky-needed-for-creation-of-i-hate-x-threads/640892/4 "2012-11-13T17:00:59Z")
I love X ! [sup]Not really…[/Sup] ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sticky-needed-for-creation-of-i-hate-x-threads/640892/5 "2012-11-13T17:24:58Z")
I do not endorse this OP. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sticky-needed-for-creation-of-i-hate-x-threads/640892/6 "2012-11-13T17:54:59Z")
> [@BwanaBob](#): > > Could the mods please consider a sticky in all forums that basically states if you start any thread that is based on disliking something, that you must include a counter example of something you do like, to give context. > > I HATE THE BEATLES - so what? > > I HATE THE BEATLES but LOVE THE WHO - okay, can see where you are coming from > I HATE THE BEATLES but LOVE JUSTIN BIEBER - going to be an interesting trainwreck > After years of these threads I realize that they invariably waste my time because people don’t know how or are unwilling to back up their tastes. > > Please make them. I HATE THE IDEA OF “NO I HATE X” THREADS. But I don’t really feel like debating it. 😃 I suppose there’s a point to the proposal: in the wider world of Internet discourse, just dropping an unsupportable and undebatable hatebomb is trolling. Low-quality trolling, really, of the “Obvious troll” flavor. And that’s the weakness of the proposal. It assumes that there are posters who post useless stuff like this out of innocent intent. I think that’s naive; my experience is that such posts are inevitably and bluntly trolling, and a sticky asking trolls not to troll is close to the dictionary definition of “futile”. ---
**Author:** ![BwanaBob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bwanabob/32/2985_2.png) [@BwanaBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BwanaBob)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sticky-needed-for-creation-of-i-hate-x-threads/640892/7 "2012-11-13T18:19:18Z")
If that’s trolling then the board is full of them. Maybe I should start reporting those threads, since they’re clearly violating the “don’t be a jerk” rule. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sticky-needed-for-creation-of-i-hate-x-threads/640892/8 "2012-11-13T19:05:12Z")
> [@BwanaBob](#): > > If that’s trolling then the board is full of them. Maybe I should start reporting those threads, since they’re clearly violating the “don’t be a jerk” rule. Mods: please put a sticky on The Internet that says “Try not to take The Internet too seriously” ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sticky-needed-for-creation-of-i-hate-x-threads/640892/9 "2012-11-13T19:18:08Z")
> [@BwanaBob](#): > > If that’s trolling then the board is full of them. Maybe I should start reporting those threads, since they’re clearly violating the “don’t be a jerk” rule. While not particularly useful, I don’t think most of them constitute trolling. If you see one that you think actually represents trolling, report it and let us deal with it. If you just feel they “invariably waste your time” the best approach is just to not open them. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sticky-needed-for-creation-of-i-hate-x-threads/640892/10 "2012-11-13T19:40:17Z")
I hate stupid rules. ---
**Author:** ![Ostrya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/35a633/32.png) [@Ostrya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ostrya)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sticky-needed-for-creation-of-i-hate-x-threads/640892/11 "2012-11-13T20:07:03Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > I hate stupid rules. Same here. And I’ll go out on a limb here, go as far suggesting this suggestion isn’t very smart. “Hey, I have an idea! Let’s take all the topics I don’t prefer and put them in their own forum! We could call the new forum.. ~tries to think of a clever name for the new forum~.._topics I don’t prefer_”! ---
**Author:** ![BwanaBob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bwanabob/32/2985_2.png) [@BwanaBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BwanaBob)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sticky-needed-for-creation-of-i-hate-x-threads/640892/12 "2012-11-13T20:45:38Z")
I’m truly surprised at the reactions here. If you have a conversation with a friend and he expresses an opinion without backing it up, do you just nod, or do you press him for reasons? I’ll bet you ask for reasons. The suggestion to not open threads that seem to be expressing a dislike for something is not very useful. I would have no idea if the thread contains arguments or just complaints. How would anyone? One would have to open it to see. My complaint is that too many do not supply arguments. To not see this or to be dismissive of it makes no sense to me. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sticky-needed-for-creation-of-i-hate-x-threads/640892/13 "2012-11-13T20:54:51Z")
From a conversation standpoint, I agree people should provide context and explanation. I mean, just posting “I hate X” isn’t a conversation. If someone asks, “But why do you hate Justin Beiber”, then you should explain. If someone asks for context, it’s only reasonable to provide it. My objection is to the demand that the moderators make a new rule and enforce what is really best handled as the dynamics of conversation. If someone doesn’t clarify when asked, then stop reading their stupid threads. Or call them out in the Pit. Or whatever. ---
**Author:** ![BwanaBob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bwanabob/32/2985_2.png) [@BwanaBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BwanaBob)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sticky-needed-for-creation-of-i-hate-x-threads/640892/14 "2012-11-13T21:05:31Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > From a conversation standpoint, I agree people should provide context and explanation. I mean, just posting “I hate X” isn’t a conversation. If someone asks, “But why do you hate Justin Beiber”, then you should explain. If someone asks for context, it’s only reasonable to provide it. > > My objection is to the demand that the moderators make a new rule and enforce what is really best handled as the dynamics of conversation. If someone doesn’t clarify when asked, then stop reading their stupid threads. Or call them out in the Pit. Or whatever. I do stop reading the offending thread, only to have another one just like it turn up. It’s endless. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sticky-needed-for-creation-of-i-hate-x-threads/640892/15 "2012-11-13T21:06:32Z")
> [@BwanaBob](#): > > I’m truly surprised at the reactions here. If you have a conversation with a friend and he expresses an opinion without backing it up, do you just nod, or do you press him for reasons? I’ll bet you ask for reasons. This is where we differ. I consider very few people here friends, and fewer than that probably think of me as one. So I could care less if some stranger wants to make an ass out of himself on the Internet. This community tends to police itself. Good threads rise to the top, shitty ones disappear. Everything (mostly) works fine the way it is. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sticky-needed-for-creation-of-i-hate-x-threads/640892/16 "2012-11-13T21:11:54Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by BwanaBob View Post > I’m truly surprised at the reactions here. If you have a conversation with a friend and he expresses an opinion without backing it up, do you just nod, or do you press him for reasons? I’ll bet you ask for reasons. Seriously, I just nod. I really don’t want a conversation about my friend’s opinion. Friend: I like Chevy better than Ford. Me: That’s cool. Friend. That woman is hot. Me: That’s cool Friend: The Beatles are overrated and Yoko did the world a favor by breaking them up. Me: I hear you. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sticky-needed-for-creation-of-i-hate-x-threads/640892/17 "2012-11-13T21:54:13Z")
> [@RaftPeople](#): > > Mods: please put a sticky on The Internet that says “Try not to take The Internet too seriously” This made me smile. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sticky-needed-for-creation-of-i-hate-x-threads/640892/18 "2012-11-13T22:09:12Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Seriously, I just nod. I really don’t want a conversation about my friend’s opinion. > > Friend: I like Chevy better than Ford. > > Me: That’s cool. > > Friend. That woman is hot. > > Me: That’s cool > > Friend: The Beatles are overrated and Yoko did the world a favor by breaking them up. > > Me: I hear you. You could replace “Me:” with “drewtwo99:” and that’s pretty much exactly what I do. People who get into arguments with their friends about why X is better than Y or why X is just the best thing ever, are ridiculous. It’s like they are stuck in a middleschool pissing match or something. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sticky-needed-for-creation-of-i-hate-x-threads/640892/19 "2012-11-14T01:01:34Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > You could replace “Me:” with “drewtwo99:” and that’s pretty much exactly what I do. People who get into arguments with their friends about why X is better than Y or why X is just the best thing ever, are ridiculous. It’s like they are stuck in a middleschool pissing match or something. I hear you, man. ---
**Author:** ![BwanaBob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bwanabob/32/2985_2.png) [@BwanaBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BwanaBob)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sticky-needed-for-creation-of-i-hate-x-threads/640892/20 "2012-11-14T01:16:45Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > You could replace “Me:” with “drewtwo99:” and that’s pretty much exactly what I do. People who get into arguments with their friends about why X is better than Y or why X is just the best thing ever, are ridiculous. It’s like they are stuck in a middleschool pissing match or something. I don’t have arguments with friends, we have debates. YMMV. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sticky-needed-for-creation-of-i-hate-x-threads/640892.md?page=2)