# Stoid, Are You Still Confident that You Know a Lot about Diet and Obesity?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 12, 2013, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100 "2013-02-12T18:34:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/1 "2013-02-12T18:34:32Z")

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I’m posting this to the Pit because it will surely result in a lot of acrimony.

A couple years ago, **Stoid** started a [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=597317) in which she had an apparent epiphany about the true causes of obesity. She seemed pretty confident that she had it all figured out.

A while later, she disappeared for a while but came back yesterday [recipe for honeywheat donuts](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=682051)

So I really would like to know:

1. Stoid, do you still stand behind everything you posted in that thread?

2. Did it work out for you? If not, why not?

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/2 "2013-02-12T18:40:12Z")

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The only person on this board stupider than Stoid is you. This should be good.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/3 "2013-02-12T18:43:37Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> A couple years ago,

Heh.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/4 "2013-02-12T18:50:58Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> The only person on this board stupider than Stoid is you. This should be good.

Is it wrong to watch the “special” kids fight?

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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/5 "2013-02-12T19:14:42Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> Is it wrong to watch the “special” kids fight?

Not at all – I congratulate you and **MeanOldLady** on your intellectual and emotional superiority.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/6 "2013-02-12T19:16:25Z")

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Did you hear what the African American climatologist said about dieting while he was serving as his own attorney?

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/7 "2013-02-12T19:18:47Z")

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Why do you care so much about a random topic years ago?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/8 "2013-02-12T19:21:59Z")

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Eh, a guy can’t spend _every_ waking moment obsessing about negroes…

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/9 "2013-02-12T19:57:52Z")

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As much as I loathe this particular brand of slap-fight…I’d like to know the answer as well

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/10 "2013-02-12T20:04:16Z")

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I’ll field this one: Stoid doesn’t know a goddamn thing about obesity/weight management, and while it would appear that she \*thinks \*she does, deep down inside, she knows she’s full of shit. Whatever magic she claims to have stumbled upon didn’t work for her, and she still is where she was.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/11 "2013-02-12T20:11:54Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Whatever magic she claims to have stumbled upon didn’t work for her, and she still is where she was.

Correction: She is where she was, but now she has a donut.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/12 "2013-02-12T20:23:47Z")

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Damn I found this from the donut thread and everyone’s talking about donuts and now I really want a donut.

Back in high school I worked at a Pizza Hut right next door to a donut shop. We’d trade pizza for donuts on saturday nights after midnight. Man nothing beats fresh warm donuts right out of the fryer.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/13 "2013-02-12T20:37:37Z")

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“Hey, everybody! **Stoid** ’s back!”

“_Hello there, children_!”

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/14 "2013-02-12T20:38:50Z")

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Whether or not someone can actually stick with something doesn’t mean they know or don’t know what works. Would you say someone who thinks that the secret to weight loss is running a calorie deficit, yet who is still fat was wrong about the calorie deficit thing? Similarly, a junkie who could recite all the medical literature about the techniques of controlling drug addiction may still be an addict.

Questions about the biological impact of nutrition and the efficacy of various techniques of weight loss are scientific questions that can be answered objectively, not what anecdotes where the success or failure of one person to follow their knowledge tells us about it.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/15 "2013-02-12T20:41:55Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> Not at all – I congratulate you and **MeanOldLady** on your intellectual and emotional superiority.

I have to admit, this was actually a fair mature and unemotional response, worthy of Miss Manners. I enjoyed it. 🙂

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/16 "2013-02-12T20:42:43Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> Not at all – I congratulate you and **MeanOldLady** on your intellectual and emotional superiority.

Piss off with the praise and just send cash.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/17 "2013-02-12T21:01:18Z")

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I also accept donuts. No merchant fee!

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**Author:** ![Mauvaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mauvaise/32/11084_2.png) [@Mauvaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mauvaise)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/18 "2013-02-12T21:26:11Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> The only person on this board stupider than Stoid is you. This should be good.

Those were my exact thoughts reading the OP.

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/19 "2013-02-12T21:37:13Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Whether or not someone can actually stick with something doesn’t mean they know or don’t know what works.

Moreover, the assumption that a person on a diet could never possibly consume doughnuts is ludicrous. And god DAMN you people for making me defend **Stoid**.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/20 "2013-02-12T21:53:50Z")

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Stoid has directly attacked you. She has changed your words around. Therefore you can’t be talking to her by your own rules. For someone with an obsession, you seem to selectively remember things.

I don’t know what you think is going to happen here. You see, **Stoid** is at least not a bigot, so she at least has value as a human being. No one is going to be on your side here, and **Stoid** is doing you a favor if she doesn’t respond.

I mean, I can’t even work up any outrage at your assholishness, you’re such a degenerate excuse for a human being. I was all set for righteous anger mode, and then I saw it was you. And how sad is it when your assholishness can’t even make BigT mad?

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