# Stoid, Are You Still Confident that You Know a Lot about Diet and Obesity?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 12, 2013, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100 "2013-02-12T18:34:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/261 "2013-10-10T18:45:49Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> For one thing, liposuction only removes surface fat, not deep fat deposits. ([cite, Mayo Clinic](http://www.mayoclinic.org/cosmetic-surgery/liposuction.html))

By the way, I was reading about a study the other day where some people who had weight loss surgery had deep fat removed at the same time as the surgery; and some didn’t.

There was not a difference in outcomes. If you think I am making this up, I can try to find a cite for you.

Also, just a couple days ago I read [this article](http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/09/the-healthy-obese-and-their-healthy-fat-cells/?_r=0).

It seems that the “healthy obese” have larger numbers of smaller fat cells, all things being equal.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/262 "2013-10-10T20:20:29Z")

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I’m right there with you on thinking that **Stoid** isn’t as knowledgeable about diet and weight loss as she claims to be, but why do you keep bumping this every month or so? You just look like you’re obsessing over her.

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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/263 "2013-10-10T20:32:48Z")

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> [@Lord\_Ashtar](#):
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> I’m right there with you on thinking that **Stoid** isn’t as knowledgeable about diet and weight loss as she claims to be, but why do you keep bumping this every month or so? You just look like you’re obsessing over her.

Actually my obsession at the moment is with the fat cell issue – my “bump” posts address this issue and not **stoid** and her self-proclaimed expertise.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/264 "2013-10-10T20:46:34Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> Actually my obsession at the moment is with the fat cell issue – my “bump” posts address this issue and not **stoid** and her self-proclaimed expertise.

If it has nothing to do with the title and subject of the thread, shouldn’t it be a new one? It’s up to you, I don’t care one way or the other. Just letting you know how it looks to the peanut gallery. I’ll bow out now.

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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2013, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/265 "2013-10-10T21:14:13Z")

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> [@Lord\_Ashtar](#):
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> If it has nothing to do with the title and subject of the thread, shouldn’t it be a new one?

I don’t know what the etiquette is . . . the fat cell issue does fall under the general heading of diet and obesity.

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> It’s up to you, I don’t care one way or the other. Just letting you know how it looks to the peanut gallery. I’ll bow out now.

Thanks for your concern :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/266 "2013-10-11T08:16:41Z")

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**brazil84** : You need a new hobby, IMHO. You started this thread some time ago and it is much ado about nothing, plus Stoid’s routinely proved herself to be a know-nothing. Put her on ignore and be done with it.

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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2013, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/267 "2013-10-11T09:09:19Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> **brazil84** : You need a new hobby, IMHO. You started this thread some time ago and it is much ado about nothing, plus Stoid’s routinely proved herself to be a know-nothing. Put her on ignore and be done with it.

Actually I’ve had her on ignore for a while now, due to an exchange in one of the George Zimmerman threads.

As I mentioned to **Ashtar** , I’ve become very interested in the issue of fat cells. The conventional wisdom seems to be that if you become fat at some point in your life, your body creates a lot of new fat cells which develop their own agenda, so to speak, and make it difficult to subsequently lose weight and maintain weight loss. But evidence has been coming out that this idea is incorrect.

That’s the main reason I have bumped this thread. Perhaps I will start a new thread on it.

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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2014, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/268 "2014-11-01T20:16:45Z")

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> [@Zuzu\_s\_Petals](#):
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> Not at all.

So what’s your BMI these days?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2014, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/269 "2014-11-01T20:37:20Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> So what’s your BMI these days?

Timely followup, but you might want to send a PM reminder.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2014, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/270 "2014-11-01T22:35:10Z")

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Guess he still hasn’t found that new hobby.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2014, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/271 "2014-11-01T23:29:34Z")

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Nor learned a blame thing about science either, no doubt.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2014, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/272 "2014-11-02T02:29:20Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> So what’s your BMI these days?

You’ll never get laid with a pick-up line like that.

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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2014, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/273 "2014-11-02T10:02:26Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> You’ll never get laid with a pick-up line like that.

Probably not, but if you had visible abs it might work. 🙂

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2014, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/274 "2014-11-02T11:20:24Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> Probably not, but if you had visible abs it might work. 🙂

…and do you?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2014, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/275 "2014-11-02T12:55:12Z")

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If not, I can probably dig up a scalpel.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2014, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/276 "2014-11-03T14:57:53Z")

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nm

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2014, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/277 "2014-11-03T15:17:18Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> nm

I can’t be the only one who imagines what was there before the never-mind. Anyway, **BigT** , that was hilarious, although it skirted the line.

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**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2014, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/278 "2014-11-03T17:57:10Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> I can’t be the only one who imagines what was there before the never-mind.

Based on history, I would guess that yet again he accused me of violating my own rules of discussion.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2014, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/279 "2014-11-03T18:14:22Z")

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You should stop doing that.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2014, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/280 "2014-11-03T19:49:24Z")

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What’s your BMI\* nowadays, brazil84? Still in the top decile?  
\*Bigot/Moron Index

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