# Stoid, Are You Still Confident that You Know a Lot about Diet and Obesity? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 12, 2013, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100 "2013-02-12T18:34:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2014, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/281 "2014-11-03T21:46:10Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > You should stop doing that. If I were then I should. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2014, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/282 "2014-11-03T22:09:09Z")
Are you? ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2014, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/283 "2014-11-03T22:52:01Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Are you? To the best of my knowledge, no. If I am, please feel free to let me know. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/284 "2014-11-04T06:40:20Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > This would seem to undermine your claim about fat cells. Actually your article would indicate the new theory that diabetes, insulin resistance and whatnot cause obesity - not the other way around like traditional thinking - is correct. ---
**Author:** ![Zuzu\_s\_Petals](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@Zuzu\_s\_Petals](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zuzu_s_Petals)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/285 "2014-11-04T07:08:48Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > So what’s your BMI these days? LOL. Just saw this. Brazil 84, thank you for caring about my BMI. Just curious, do you have a little diary where you keep track of Important Dates, such as checking up on other posters’ weight loss? 🙂 Since you asked, my BMI is 21.3. I’m 5’4" (female) and as of this morning weighed in at 124. A bit more context: In June of 2012, I started eating low-carb, mostly to try to lose weight and counter the constant, crippling exhaustion I felt. My weight at that time was 186, BMI 32.2. I was also diagnosed as pre-diabetic around then. I can only speak for myself, and I’ve learned that diet is a weirdly contentious subject, so I don’t have any desire to argue about any of this. All I can say is what works for me. Low-carb has genuinely transformed my life. For the last two and a half years I’ve avoided starchy carbs and sugar (though I confess to indulging in dark chocolate and the odd glass of wine). I no longer get exhausted, my blood sugar levels stay effortlessly normal, I have tons of energy, and I’m not on the constant carby roller-coaster of having to eat every 4 hours. I normally have 2 meals a day, or even just one if I’m busy and forget to eat. The lowest my weight got was 116, last August. I was exercising a lot at the time and it just dropped off. Friends were telling me not to lose any more weight, which was a bit frustrating since I wasn’t trying to. I’m not exercising as much these days for various reasons (mostly annoying sports injuries), and my weight hovers now around 122-124. It’s been there for about the last year, with no particular effort on my part other than eating the low-carb way I always eat. However, FOR ME (again I can speak for no one else), I feel slightly too pudgy at the moment and I’d like to get more toned. It’s an exercise issue, though, not a diet one. So, basically, I’ve lost over 60 pounds and have kept it off now for two and a half years. For me low-carb is The Answer. It controls my blood sugar levels with no effort, keeps me happy and active, etc. etc. When friends ask my advice on losing weight, I of course tell them about low-carb, BUT with the caveat that it’s a lifestyle. You don’t stop eating starchy carbs just to lose the weight and then go back to the french fries and brownies once you’re lost it. Thanks for asking. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/286 "2014-11-04T14:21:17Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Actually your article would indicate the new theory that diabetes, insulin resistance and whatnot cause obesity - not the other way around like traditional thinking - is correct. Can you explain to me why? ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/287 "2014-11-04T14:23:48Z")
> [@Zuzu\_s\_Petals](#): > > LOL. Just saw this. Brazil 84, thank you for caring about my BMI. Just curious, do you have a little diary where you keep track of Important Dates, such as checking up on other posters’ weight loss? 🙂 No, but from time to time I try to check back on old threads I have participated in. Especially with weight loss issues, follow-up is important. > [@](#): > > So, basically, I’ve lost over 60 pounds and have kept it off now for two and a half years. For me low-carb is The Answer. It controls my blood sugar levels with no effort, keeps me happy and active, etc. etc. Congratulations on being one of the 1%, so to speak. And thank you for sharing. ---
**Author:** ![sandra\_nz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@sandra\_nz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sandra_nz)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/288 "2014-11-04T15:48:47Z")
Congrats on your success, **ZuZu’s Petal** s! I’m also low carb and have maintained a 50 pound loss for just over a year, but I still have more to lose and am struggling a bit to get back on the weight loss bandwagon. I can maintain the loss without tracking everything I eat (seeing as I now have a good portfolio of low carb meals), but I suspect I’m going to have to go back to tracking every mouthful via My Fitness Pal or similar. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/289 "2014-11-04T16:12:41Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > So what’s your BMI these days? Ladies and gentlemen: I give you the dictionary definition of “obsessive stalker”. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/290 "2014-11-04T16:18:11Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > Ladies and gentlemen: I give you the dictionary definition of “obsessive stalker”. Yeah, but sometimes obsessive stalking is _important_. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/291 "2014-11-04T16:25:21Z")
> [@Zuzu\_s\_Petals](#): > > You don’t stop eating starchy carbs just to lose the weight and then go back to the french fries and brownies once you’re lost it. ☹ But Wendys has bbq pulled pork cheese fries, and their only for a limited time. I have to eat them every day before they are gone, forever. [https://www.wendys.com/en-us/fries-sides/bbq-pulled-pork-cheese-fries](https://www.wendys.com/en-us/fries-sides/bbq-pulled-pork-cheese-fries) ---
**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/292 "2014-11-04T16:29:10Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > Ladies and gentlemen: I give you the dictionary definition of “obsessive stalker”. I would have gone with obesive stalker myself. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/293 "2014-11-04T16:31:51Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > No, but from time to time I try to check back on old threads I have participated in. Especially with weight loss issues, follow-up is important. > > Congratulations on being one of the 1%, so to speak. And thank you for sharing. Follow up on your own weight loss, or that of subjects in a legitimate study, sure. Follow up with a stranger on the internet? Creepy. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/294 "2014-11-04T16:39:37Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > Ladies and gentlemen: I give you the dictionary definition of “obsessive stalker”. Let’s see if I have this straight: 1. In a discussion about diet and obesity, somebody volunteers a public post on the internet regarding their weight loss and weight loss strategy; 2. Another poster politely asks if he can follow up with them in a year or two about their progress and the poster graciously agrees; 3. The other poster does follow up in the same discussion and the poster graciously provides a status update. That’s the “dictionary definition” of “obsessive stalker”? Are you freaking serious? ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/295 "2014-11-04T16:42:23Z")
> [@lorene](#): > > Follow up on your own weight loss, or that of subjects in a legitimate study, sure. Follow up with a stranger on the internet? Creepy. Why? She volunteered information about her weight loss and weight loss strategy; I politely asked if I could follow up with her; she agreed; and I did so. If you volunteer information about yourself in an online discussion, it’s completely reasonable for people to politely ask questions of you and to politely and reasonably follow up. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/296 "2014-11-04T16:45:26Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Why? She volunteered information about her weight loss and weight loss strategy; I politely asked if I could follow up with her; she agreed; and I did so. > > If you volunteer information about yourself in an online discussion, it’s completely reasonable for people to politely ask questions of you and to politely **and reasonably** follow up. I think this is the part where your error lies. And “politeness” is a useful word to mention twice in the same sentence. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/297 "2014-11-04T16:46:47Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Let’s see if I have this straight: > > 1. In a discussion about diet and obesity, somebody volunteers a public post on the internet regarding their weight loss and weight loss strategy; > > 2. Another poster politely asks if he can follow up with them in a year or two about their progress and the poster graciously agrees; > > 3. The other poster does follow up in the same discussion and the poster graciously provides a status update. > > That’s the “dictionary definition” of “obsessive stalker”? > > Are you freaking serious? Well, yuhhh… since your motives in doing so are, uh, what now? ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/298 "2014-11-04T16:52:43Z")
Yeah, that’s pretty weird. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/299 "2014-11-04T16:57:33Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > ☹ But Wendys has bbq pulled pork cheese fries, and their only for a limited time. I have to eat them every day before they are gone, forever. > > [https://www.wendys.com/en-us/fries-sides/bbq-pulled-pork-cheese-fries](https://www.wendys.com/en-us/fries-sides/bbq-pulled-pork-cheese-fries) Fuck you!! I gained 4 pounds just by looking at that link. Looks like I’m going to have to eat a bunch of honeywheat doughnuts to get that weight off. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/300 "2014-11-04T16:59:38Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Can you explain to me why? Removing the fat did not change the metabolic issues which is evidence that the fat did not cause the metabolic issues. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100.md?page=16)