# Stoid, Are You Still Confident that You Know a Lot about Diet and Obesity? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 12, 2013, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100 "2013-02-12T18:34:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2014, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/361 "2014-11-08T14:26:24Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > I don’t know if women can be pantywaists. If not, you chicks are all boxerwaists. That’s right, isn’t it? Boxers on girl=panties on a boy? I’m pretty sure that was one of Newton’s Laws of Physics. I’d go with"tighty-wighty waists" (“tightywightywaists”?) – it’s got rhyme, alliteration, and nice cadence. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2014, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/362 "2014-11-08T18:23:52Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Nonsense, it’s a topic in which the person volunteered information. Since I’ve started my informal research I’ve never asked anyone online about their weight loss efforts who hadn’t raised the issue. > > And as noted above, I don’t single people out – I ask follow up questions of a lot of people. So you can apologize any time you like. > Also nonsense – as I alluded to earlier, I simply was re-reading an old thread I had participated in to see if there were any new developments. > I’ve lost count . . at least 10 I think. Why wouldn’t you do this via PM if you sincerely aren’t trying to catch someone in the act of failing? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2014, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/363 "2014-11-08T21:24:15Z")
> [@lorene](#): > > Why wouldn’t you do this via PM if you sincerely aren’t trying to catch someone in the act of failing? Where’s the fun in that? ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/364 "2014-11-21T14:47:49Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Because people being assholes under the guise of actually being decent human beings is one of my pet peeves. I wouldn’t care if you were just an asshole - it’s the dressup that annoys me. So my congratulating posters on their weight loss success and digging up citations is just “dressing up” to conceal evil intent. Got it. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/365 "2014-11-21T14:49:45Z")
Wake up from your nap, did you? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/366 "2014-11-21T14:50:32Z")
For the sake of all that is good in this world, you nasty little troll, find a goat, a nice bridge, and hibernate for the fucking winter. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/367 "2014-11-21T15:07:26Z")
> [@Revenant\_Threshold](#): > > People volunteering information doesn’t make that information not personal. Perhaps, but it makes it reasonable to ask them questions about it. > [@](#): > > And asking a number of people doesn’t mean that you aren’t singling people out; That’s an interesting definition of “singling people out” you have. The fact is that if people tell me that they have had some weight loss success, I typically ask if I can follow up with them down the road. And if they agree, and I remember, I usually do. > [@](#): > > I am being quite honest; No. See below. > [@](#): > > So, if I understand you correctly; the fact that your definition matched the words of mine aside from the point on which I took issue on (and my mispelling) isn’t because you were quoting me at all - it just so happened that those words turned out to be the same? Ummm, no. Of course I used some of your words to provide a definition of “poll.” But I did not hold them out as being exactly your words. By accusing me of misquoting you, you were implying that I was falsely representing that you had used certain words which you in fact had not. Which I did not do. Now kindly admit that I did not misquote you and apologize for your dishonesty. Last time I will ask. And just so we are clear, it is your position that if I have a general practice of asking questions of people who volunteer information on a topic, that counts as “singling people out”? ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/368 "2014-11-21T15:08:44Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Because people who are genuinely interested in people’s experience on a topic don’t create threads to bust on people for the same topic. You actually expect anyone to think you resurrected a contentious thread, in the Pit where you can make fun of people, just because you were casually interested in someone’s weight loss? Sure, the subject came up in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/369 "2014-11-21T15:16:15Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Now kindly admit that I did not misquote you and apologize for your dishonesty. > > Last time I will ask. Has this ultimatum ever, in your entire life, actually worked? Any result _other_ than the person laughing in your face? I’m at a loss to picture it. But by all means, keep it up. It never stops being hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/370 "2014-11-21T19:48:22Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Sure, the subject came up in this thread. No it didn’t. You yourself said that you had no interest in peoples actual weight loss and that you only ask to make people feel bad about themselves. That is despicable. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/371 "2014-11-21T20:23:24Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > No it didn’t. Sure it did. In post #59, **Zuzu** said, among other things, this: > [@](#): > > Not that I think it’s going to make any difference to you, but I eat pretty much exactly the way Stoid described --low carb, high fat – and yes, it does work. I’ve lost over 60 pounds in the last year, going from obese to a BMI that’s now at the lower end of my healthy range. All this without cravings and without feeling hungry, while eating plenty of meat, veggies, and yes, cheese, butter, olive oil and heavy cream. Before that post, I never asked **Zuzu** anything about her diet/weight loss experience. > [@](#): > > You yourself said that you had no interest in peoples actual weight loss and that you only ask to make people feel bad about themselves. Can you quote me where I said that? Which thread and post number? > [@](#): > > That is despicable. It’s also despicable to mischaracterize peoples’ statements, agreed? Now please quote me where I said, in substance or effect, I have no interest in peoples actual weight loss and that you only ask to make people feel bad about themselves. TIA. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/372 "2014-11-21T21:05:15Z")
Sharp as a bean bag chair, as always. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/373 "2014-11-21T21:54:31Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Can you quote me where I said that? Which thread and post number? Are you calling me a liar? You need to apologize for your behavior. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2014, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/374 "2014-11-22T01:12:30Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Are you calling me a liar? Not yet. First I’m giving you a chance to back up your accusation. Please quote me where I said, in substance or effect, I have no interest in peoples actual weight loss and that I only ask to make people feel bad about themselves. > [@](#): > > You need to apologize for your behavior. If you substantiate your claim, then of course I will apologize. Just as you should apologize if you are unable to substantiate your claim. Please quote me where I said, in substance or effect, I have no interest in peoples actual weight loss and that I only ask to make people feel bad about themselves. Please provide the thread and post number. Failing that, please admit I said no such thing and apologize. Your choice. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2014, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/375 "2014-11-22T01:27:53Z")
Excuse me? Are you calling me a liar a second time? Sorry, that’s it, you’re done. I don’t associate or talk with people who go around accusing people of being liars because they refuse to admit they said something just so they can make some kind of stupid point in their made up point system in an argument just so they can feel good about themselves. I say good day. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2014, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/376 "2014-11-22T01:46:47Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Excuse me? Are you calling me a liar a second time? I wasn’t before, but now I am. > [@](#): > > You yourself said that you had no interest in peoples actual weight loss and that you only ask to make people feel bad about themselves. Complete lie. > [@](#): > > That is despicable. No, you are despicable for your false accusation. Anyway, I don’t engage with people who misrepresent what I say. Besides which, you are a thoroughly despicable human being. Goodbye, liar. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2014, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/377 "2014-11-22T01:58:30Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Excuse me? Are you calling me a liar a second time? > > Sorry, that’s it, you’re done. I don’t associate or talk with people who go around accusing people of being liars because they refuse to admit they said something just so they can make some kind of stupid point in their made up point system in an argument just so they can feel good about themselves. > > I say good day. You certainly sound like a liar. “You said this” “Prove it” “Are you calling me a liar? Why… I’m so shocked I may pass out from the vapors! Oh goodness me! The outrage! There’s no way I’m going to prove it now. Good day sir!” If he said this, post it. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2014, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/378 "2014-11-22T03:44:02Z")
Darn, and now **Drunky Smurf** becomes one of the elite team\* of dopers that belong to the list of the “banned”\*\* by brazil that are usually the smartest dopers around… "What?!? **Drunky Smurf** is a member too?! There goes the neighborhood!" 😛 \*Not a small group really, I think brasil just sees a wall of white when he comes to the SDMB and he can only see the low hanging fruit that is not in his ignore list. 🙂 \*\* Actually a badge of honor. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100.md?page=18)