# Stoid, Are You Still Confident that You Know a Lot about Diet and Obesity? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 12, 2013, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100 "2013-02-12T18:34:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/21 "2013-02-12T21:57:23Z")
Shut up, **BigTard** ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/22 "2013-02-12T21:58:11Z")
**Stoid** is void, baby. **Stoid’s** void. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/23 "2013-02-12T21:59:58Z")
Drunky Smurf feel bad for BigT. No worry BigT. Many chance to get mad still to come. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/24 "2013-02-12T22:01:39Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Stoid has directly attacked you. She has changed your words around. Therefore you can’t be talking to her by your own rules. Can you show me where she did so? > [@](#): > > You see, **Stoid** is at least not a bigot, so she at least has value as a human being. To echo my post above, I congratulate you and **Stoid** on your superior value as human beings. Anyway, please show me where **Stoid** insisted on strawmanning me. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/25 "2013-02-12T22:27:41Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Whether or not someone can actually stick with something doesn’t mean they know or don’t know what works. I disagree, since the primary issue in dieting is sticking. I mean, it’s trivial to invent a diet which will keep you thin for life if you stick to it. So a diet that “works” is one you stick to. The unspoken promise behind the carbohydrate/insulin hypothesis is that if you keep carbohydrate consumption down, you will naturally and easily lose weight without expending a lot of willpower. > [@](#): > > Would you say someone who thinks that the secret to weight loss is running a calorie deficit, yet who is still fat was wrong about the calorie deficit thing? Yes I would – in the sense that the person is evidently missing something important. He has one piece of the puzzle, but he doesn’t have “the secret.” > [@](#): > > Similarly, a junkie who could recite all the medical literature about the techniques of controlling drug addiction may still be an addict. Sure. And if he had announced that he finally figured out how to kick an addiction by following steps A, B, and, C, then he would probably have been wrong. > [@](#): > > Questions about the biological impact of nutrition and the efficacy of various techniques of weight loss are scientific questions that can be answered objectively, not what anecdotes where the success or failure of one person to follow their knowledge tells us about it. Well this is not scientific research, it’s simply informal discussion. Of course it’s limited, but it’s still interesting. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/26 "2013-02-12T23:20:43Z")
So I guess I should give up hope that anyone will stick to “doughnut”? Is this just another losing battle? What about “through”? Who’s with me?! Or should I just run along and get some donuts at the drive-thru…? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/27 "2013-02-12T23:41:01Z")
Grammar lite, it would seem. ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2013, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/28 "2013-02-12T23:46:22Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Grammar lite, it would seem. Grammar’s not quite so lite after a dozen doughnuts. :o ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/29 "2013-02-13T00:40:16Z")
Does Stoid even post here any more? ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/30 "2013-02-13T00:56:37Z")
I also stand fast for “doughnut” over “donut”. But then, I am such a dinosaur that I was unaware “strawman” was now a transitive verb. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/31 "2013-02-13T01:04:00Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Can you show me where she did so? Yeah BigT, show him where she violated his pedantic Rules of Debate or admit you were wrong and apologize. THE BRAZIL84 HATH SPOKEN! ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/32 "2013-02-13T01:16:04Z")
> [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > Correction: She is where she was, but now she has a donut. I had some questions for a guy from out of town who was at work today - I got answers for my questions AND a donut. I told my boss it was the best day of my life. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/33 "2013-02-13T01:17:23Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > Yeah BigT, show him where she violated his pedantic Rules of Debate or admit you were wrong and apologize. THE BRAZIL84 HATH SPOKEN! Careful buddy–speak softly of BigTard…or he might enter “righteous anger mode” and every time he does that, he _it shortens his entire life_!!! ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/34 "2013-02-13T01:18:51Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > Shut up, **BigTard** Careful there–speak softly of BigTard…or he might enter “righteous anger mode” and every time he does that, he _it shortens his entire life_!!! (On the other hand, BigT’s gonna be banned soon enough, so…it might be worth it to watch.) ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/35 "2013-02-13T01:28:49Z")
Accidental double post, or slow motion homicide? ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/36 "2013-02-13T01:29:57Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > Does Stoid even post here any more? Looks like she’s been stuck in a [video game](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15938673#post15938673) since last May. ---
**Author:** ![Troppus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Troppus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troppus)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/37 "2013-02-13T01:31:33Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I mean, I can’t even work up any outrage at your assholishness, you’re such a degenerate excuse for a human being. I was all set for righteous anger mode, and then I saw it was you. And how sad is it when your assholishness can’t even make BigT mad? Awesome. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/38 "2013-02-13T02:59:59Z")
Are chocolate doughnuts inferior to vanilla ones? If so, expound. \*awful pun intended ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/39 "2013-02-13T03:09:10Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I mean, I can’t even work up any outrage at your assholishness, you’re such a degenerate excuse for a human being. I was all set for righteous anger mode, and then I saw it was you. And how sad is it when your assholishness can’t even make BigT mad? White SIFL thinks RAM should become a board MEME. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2013, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100/40 "2013-02-13T03:19:18Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > And how sad is it when your assholishness can’t even make BigT mad? My thoughts TO A TEE when I read your initial scree. Dude! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoid-are-you-still-confident-that-you-know-a-lot-about-diet-and-obesity/650100.md?page=3)