# Stolen Valour: Another Scumbag **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 13, 2014, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stolen-valour-another-scumbag/704531 "2014-11-13T15:38:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stolen-valour-another-scumbag/704531/141 "2017-03-30T00:54:42Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > A former Army guy myself, I was awestruck at how phony he looks. I could do a better job masquerading as Kim Kardashian. The beret is a dead giveaway, for one, but like all these guys, he decided he just had to be a Sooper Elite Soldier, with the Bravery medal and the Patrol Pathfinder badge, which you basically only get if you can kick Chuck Norris’s ass. Nobody ever masquerades as just some ordinary, unremarkable schmoe who muddled through their 20 years as a vehicle tech and got a CD and a pension, maybe one overseas ribbon. > > That said, quite honestly, my opinion of these people - there seems to be a limitless supply of them, literally thousands and thousands - is in line with\*\* Bouncer.\*\* I find myself pitying them. A person has to feel very shitty about themselves to impersonate a job they are not solely, by all accounts, to get admiration. It’s not like someone faking a degree or a qualification of some kind to swindle money, or get a job they aren’t entitled to, a la Frank “Catch Me If You Can” Abignale - there at least there’s theft and greed I can be angry at. This guy is just a pathetic case, and I feel sorry for him. > > The fact that his WIFE apparently went along with this also suggests a degree of codependent lunacy on a scale I can only begin to imagine. What if someone fakes or embellishes a degree or qualification to get a job they “don’t deserve” but then do a great job? That’s what they should force this guy to do: prove it. Go through basic training again, showcase all those hand to hand killing skills you learned to get the Pathfinder patch, etc. ---
**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stolen-valour-another-scumbag/704531/142 "2017-03-30T01:37:13Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Pretty sure people would be upset with someone pretending to be a nurse also. Great. NOW what costume is my wife supposed to wear on Thursday nights? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stolen-valour-another-scumbag/704531/143 "2017-03-30T14:24:17Z")
Two words: French maid. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stolen-valour-another-scumbag/704531/144 "2017-03-30T14:52:11Z")
> [@Beren\_Erchamion](#): > > God did no such thing. The Old Testament claims God did, but the Old Testament is not an accurate reflection of God. > > If God is perfect and therefore eternal and unchanging, then since the OT and NT provide very different portrayals of God, then at most one of them can be correct. > > The NT portrayal comports better with the God whose love and compassion I experience regularly. Thus, I must conclude that the OT is wrong, and probably an example of an unfortunate tendency that societies often have of inventing divine justification for their secular sins. I guess that’s your take on the “Bible” thing. As far as “sin” is concerned…I’m not a religious guy, so I rely on empathy and common sense to tell me that killing people is a bad thing. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stolen-valour-another-scumbag/704531/145 "2017-03-30T16:23:51Z")
> [@Beren\_Erchamion](#): > > If God is perfect and therefore eternal and unchanging, then since the OT and NT provide very different portrayals of God, then at most one of them can be correct. > > The NT portrayal comports better with the God whose love and compassion I experience regularly. Thus, I must conclude that the OT is wrong, and probably an example of an unfortunate tendency that societies often have of inventing divine justification for their secular sins. Actually, I’ve seen and heard this nonsense from plenty of anti-semites. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stolen-valour-another-scumbag/704531/146 "2017-03-30T16:30:14Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Two words: French maid. She’s just pretending to be French. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stolen-valour-another-scumbag/704531/147 "2017-03-30T16:35:34Z")
> [@Beren\_Erchamion](#): > > God did no such thing. The Old Testament claims God did, but the Old Testament is not an accurate reflection of God. > > If God is perfect and therefore eternal and unchanging, then since the OT and NT provide very different portrayals of God, then at most one of them can be correct. > > The NT portrayal comports better with the God whose love and compassion I experience regularly. Thus, I must conclude that the OT is wrong, and probably an example of an unfortunate tendency that societies often have of inventing divine justification for their secular sins. A very beautiful example of cognitive dissonance. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stolen-valour-another-scumbag/704531/148 "2017-03-30T16:36:46Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > This really annoys the heck out of those of us who actually were super Airborne Ranger Special Forces SEALs GIJoe CIA SERE secret **squirrel** super CIA super spies. Bolding mine. You got something against squirrels? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stolen-valour-another-scumbag/704531/149 "2017-03-30T16:44:59Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > Bolding mine. > > You got something against squirrels? There’s only _one_ Secret Squirrel-all others are fakers. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stolen-valour-another-scumbag/704531/150 "2017-03-30T17:22:45Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > She’s just pretending to be French. That’s OK. I’m just pretending she’s a maid. ---
**Author:** ![Beren\_Erchamion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/90ced4/32.png) [@Beren\_Erchamion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beren_Erchamion)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stolen-valour-another-scumbag/704531/151 "2017-03-30T17:28:29Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Actually, I’ve seen and heard this nonsense from plenty of anti-semites. Yeah, neo-Marcionism definitely has avenues that allow it to be used as a front for anti-Semitism. It’s a problem, and we do our best to expose them when we find them. For many of us, it’s a sincere attempt to reconcile the conflict between the God we experience and the God described in the New Testament compared with the God described in the Old Testament. Should I stop criticizing Israel’s policies towards its ethnic minorities just because a lot of anti-Semites use that as a front, too? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stolen-valour-another-scumbag/704531/152 "2017-03-30T17:30:49Z")
> [@Beren\_Erchamion](#): > > Yeah, neo-Marcionism definitely has avenues that allow it to be used as a front for anti-Semitism. It’s a problem, and we do our best to expose them when we find them. > > For many of us, it’s a sincere attempt to reconcile the conflict between the God we experience and the God described in the New Testament compared with the God described in the Old Testament. > > Should I stop criticizing Israel’s policies towards its ethnic minorities just because a lot of anti-Semites use that as a front, too? Who is “we”? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stolen-valour-another-scumbag/704531/153 "2017-03-30T22:04:28Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Who is “we”? He’s probably including the frog in his pocket. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stolen-valour-another-scumbag/704531/154 "2017-03-31T01:48:04Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > There’s only _one_ Secret Squirrel-all others are fakers. [“Tell them is fake news, work of moose and squirrel…”](http://www.newyorker.com/cartoons/daily-cartoon/wednesday-march-29th-natasha-boris-fake-news) ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stolen-valour-another-scumbag/704531/155 "2017-03-31T19:18:47Z")
> [@Beren\_Erchamion](#): > > Yeah, neo-Marcionism definitely has avenues that allow it to be used as a front for anti-Semitism. It’s a problem, and we do our best to expose them when we find them. > > For many of us, it’s a sincere attempt to reconcile the conflict between the God we experience and the God described in the New Testament compared with the God described in the Old Testament. Asking for clarification again: What group are you referring to when you say “we”? ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stolen-valour-another-scumbag/704531/156 "2017-03-31T21:11:08Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > There’s only _one_ Secret Squirrel-all others are fakers. That reminds me, I need a new trenchcoat. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stolen-valour-another-scumbag/704531/157 "2017-03-31T21:18:19Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > That reminds me, I need a new trenchcoat. I already knew that. My mole told me. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stolen-valour-another-scumbag/704531/158 "2017-03-31T22:20:09Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Asking for clarification again: What group are you referring to when you say “we”? As I posted earlier, he’s referring to himself and the frog (Pepe) in his pocket. Oh, and all the other anti-Semites. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stolen-valour-another-scumbag/704531.md?page=7)