# Stones... you make a.........cry

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stones-you-make-a-cry/343165>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 6, 2006, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stones-you-make-a-cry/343165 "2006-02-06T01:14:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stones-you-make-a-cry/343165/41 "2006-02-06T16:46:59Z")

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> [@Cluricaun](#):
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> Was I the only one hoping that the Stones would rebel against the “Safe Grandpas” label and sing that anti-Bush song off the new album? What do they have to lose?

A payday, maybe. My father and I actually discussed this during their set (I liked the raggednessfelt, but it was still pretty blah). The way I see it, this is what the Stones are about. They changed the lyrics to “Let’s Spend the Night Together” for Ed Sullivan forty years ago, and they weren’t going to do anything dangerous at the Super Bowl now. They’re not playing that song live either. If the Stones were really dangerous, would they have been there in the first place? I guess I shouldn’t begrudge them the spotlight; they’re a rock band after all.

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**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stones-you-make-a-cry/343165/42 "2006-02-06T17:17:40Z")

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I noticed a countdown timer. I assume it was so that the halftime show ran only as long as the sponsor paid for and not a second more. But then I got to thinking. Who’s the poor schmoe who’s job it would have been to pull the plug on the Stones?

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stones-you-make-a-cry/343165/43 "2006-02-06T17:20:38Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> They changed the lyrics to “Let’s Spend the Night Together” for Ed Sullivan forty years ago, and they weren’t going to do anything dangerous at the Super Bowl now.

Mick later lied about that, too. He denied actually singing “Let’s Spend Some Time Together,” and claimed he had just mumbled: “Let’s spend the mmmph together…” Nope, he sang “time” (but he did roll his eyes while singing it).

As for them doing “Sweet Neo Con,” I’d rather hear them doing their Abu Ghraib song from that album, “Dangerous Beauty.” It’s more subtle, overall a better song, and actually would stand a chance of getting on the air.

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**Author:** ![Blackclaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e68b1a/32.png) [@Blackclaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackclaw)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stones-you-make-a-cry/343165/44 "2006-02-06T17:26:16Z")

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I continue to maintain that Keith died 20 years ago and is only animated by voodoo. I suspect some of the other band members kicked off last year and have, perhaps, had their insides replaced by Sony’s latest robotics.

Any chance that the Superbowl half time show will ever be done again by someone under 50?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stones-you-make-a-cry/343165/45 "2006-02-06T17:36:13Z")

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> [@Blackclaw](#):
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> Any chance that the Superbowl half time show will ever be done again by someone under 50?

It’ll probably be a few more years. Maybe when Boomers don’t make up the target audience and the advertising dollars. 😛

On the plus side, I’ll say that I was happy to see the Stones pianist/musical director Chuck Leavell (one of the great, if not very famous, rock sidemen) get a few seconds of face time between tree farming gigs. Sure, it would have been nice to _hear_ him, but at least I saw him up there.

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stones-you-make-a-cry/343165/46 "2006-02-06T17:36:44Z")

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> [@Casey1505](#):
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> I noticed a countdown timer. I assume it was so that the halftime show ran only as long as the sponsor paid for and not a second more. But then I got to thinking. Who’s the poor schmoe who’s job it would have been to pull the plug on the Stones?

I’d do it! Mick Jagger wasn’t even trying to sing well; they just phoned it in. Plus, I agree with the assertion that guys who are eligible for senior discounts should _not_ prance around like Brittney Spears.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stones-you-make-a-cry/343165/47 "2006-02-06T17:44:37Z")

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With my back turned to the TV, the first thing I noticed was that Mick was out of breath by the middle of the first song. Once I turned to watch I noticed he was very good at hiding the fact that he was out of breath by leaving out choice words.

I wasn’t the only one who noticed his out-of-breathness. But as my husband said, “He’s 63. Cut him some slack.”

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**Author:** ![Eleusis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Eleusis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleusis)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stones-you-make-a-cry/343165/48 "2006-02-06T18:38:24Z")

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Somebody threw panties on the stage.  
Sadly, they were granny panties.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stones-you-make-a-cry/343165/49 "2006-02-06T19:01:00Z")

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> [@Eleusis](#):
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> Somebody threw panties on the stage.  
> Sadly, they were granny panties.

I thought that was very appropriate.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stones-you-make-a-cry/343165/50 "2006-02-06T19:30:08Z")

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> [@Neurotik](#):
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> Thank God there wasn’t a “wardrobe malfunction” this year. That’s all I have to say about it.

From what I heard, the whole thing was on a 5-second delay, anyway.

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**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2006, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stones-you-make-a-cry/343165/51 "2006-02-06T21:31:12Z")

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> [@Eleusis](#):
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> Somebody threw panties on the stage.  
> Sadly, they were granny panties.

Maybe somebody was trying to make a statement?

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stones-you-make-a-cry/343165/52 "2006-02-07T04:01:11Z")

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> [@Cluricaun](#):
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> But it would have been great to have them shrug off the McCartney-teddy bear yoke and state “Hey, we’re the Rolling God Damned Stones, and we’re Moderately Dangerous older British gentlemen!”

Er, that’d be the Rolling _Bloody_ Stones.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stones-you-make-a-cry/343165/53 "2006-02-07T04:55:57Z")

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> [@Blackclaw](#):
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> Any chance that the Superbowl half time show will ever be done again by someone under 50?

As a guy less than half that age, I was hopeful for the Stones at first. But it sucked. (Also, I’m not a big fan, but I had no problems with the choice before the Supebowl.) But I liked it last year when it was Paul McCartney and in 2002 when it was U2, and even when Aerosmith was part of it in 2001. What I don’t like is those multi-performer/band things, or themed shows, or manufactured pop stars lip-syncing or anything involving anyone named Jackson or Simpson. If they keep pulling out older bands, I can live with it. Better real musicians than either Janet Jackson or Up With People.

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**Author:** ![dflower](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dflower/32/3270_2.png) [@dflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dflower)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2006, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stones-you-make-a-cry/343165/54 "2006-02-08T00:58:43Z")

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The Stones did sound so very bad! It is so hard to see a hero fail.  
I felt the same way when The Who played the 9/11 concert. Daltry can’t sing anymore and it hurts to hear him try.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2006, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stones-you-make-a-cry/343165/55 "2006-02-08T01:00:36Z")

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Mick is now complaining to the press about the edits. The NFL says they told the band it was going to happen, and I’d be shocked if that wasn’t true.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2006, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stones-you-make-a-cry/343165/56 "2006-02-08T01:13:53Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Mick is now complaining to the press about the edits. The NFL says they told the band it was going to happen, and I’d be shocked if that wasn’t true.

Mick knew and accepted it. He’s just being his usual drama queen self.

I wonder how much they got paid?

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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2006, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stones-you-make-a-cry/343165/57 "2006-02-08T05:10:01Z")

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I find myself trying to synch-up to Mick’s dancing mode when I see him in a live setting. I try to follow his rythm and see if I can learn something. He’s hooked up to a whole different godclap.

There was this one thing where he did a goose-step, lipjut with a modified, cyber-age, funky chicken, vogue move…I was impressed.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2006, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stones-you-make-a-cry/343165/58 "2006-02-08T13:11:37Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Mick is now complaining to the press about the edits. The NFL says they told the band it was going to happen, and I’d be shocked if that wasn’t true.

According to the Reuters report, the Stones’ spokesperson acknowledges that the band was aware that the songs would be censored. They’re calling the censorship “unnecessary and ridiculous,” which is not inconsistent with knowing in advance that it was going to happen.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2006, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stones-you-make-a-cry/343165/59 "2006-02-08T16:13:34Z")

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> [@Biffy the Elephant Shrew](#):
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> According to the Reuters report, the Stones’ spokesperson acknowledges that the band was aware that the songs would be censored. They’re calling the censorship “unnecessary and ridiculous,” which is not inconsistent with knowing in advance that it was going to happen.

No, it isn’t. I’m just wondering why they chose the gig and those songs (I figured they wouldn’t play “Start Me Up” for exactly this reason) knowing this would probably happen.

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