# Stonewall riots and Judy Garland???

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**Created:** [February 24, 2006, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stonewall-riots-and-judy-garland/345895 "2006-02-24T05:41:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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From a Baby Boomer quiz on p. 56 of the Feb. 20 issue of _Newsweek_:

"Which cultural icon died the week before the 1969 Stonewall riots, by some accounts intensifying the violence between New York gays and local police?

a. Judy Garland  
b. Bette Davis  
c. Liberace  
d. Agnes Moorehead"

The answer, according to the magazine, is “a.” Explain, please, how Garland’s death would “intensify… the violence” of the incident?

Sounds like a bizarre linkage to me.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stonewall-riots-and-judy-garland/345895/2 "2006-02-24T05:46:36Z")

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The people involved in the riots were arguably already emotionally on edge because of Garland’s death.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
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Gay men in deep mourning weren’t in the mood to take any crap from the cops. Judy Garland was (and is, to some segments of the gay community) a beloved icon. When they raided the Stonewall, the patrons fought back.

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**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stonewall-riots-and-judy-garland/345895/4 "2006-02-24T09:50:38Z")

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From what I’ve seen, this is mostly an urban legend made up after the fact.

The people who were actually there at the Stonewall Inn those nights have generally said that Judy Garland’s funeral didn’t enter into their minds at all during this period.

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stonewall-riots-and-judy-garland/345895/5 "2006-02-24T10:12:12Z")

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Although this particular piece of folklore is very well known, every time I’ve heard it it’s been presented as folklore, e.g. “Legend has it that they were on edge…”

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**Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stonewall-riots-and-judy-garland/345895/6 "2006-02-24T22:49:49Z")

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> [@t-bonham@scc.net](#):
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> The people who were actually there at the Stonewall Inn those nights have generally said that Judy Garland’s funeral didn’t enter into their minds at all during this period.

I have seen and read a number of interviews with people who were there who say different. How much of that is self-revisionism I don’t know, but there does seem to have been at least some consciousness on the first night of the riots of Garland’s funeral among the patrons. There doesn’t seem to have been a “Judy’s dead and now _this_!” mentality as implied by the movie _Stonewall_ (a fictionalization of the book of the same title by Martin Duberman) and certainly after the first night it’s unlikely that anyone was thinking about Garland’s funeral; ultimately it’s really impossible to prove one way or the other.
