# Stoopid School System

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoopid-school-system/2382>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 17, 1999, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoopid-school-system/2382 "1999-09-17T03:47:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Byzantine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dfb087/32.png) [@Byzantine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Byzantine)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 1999, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoopid-school-system/2382/21 "1999-09-17T22:56:00Z")

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Kryptonite–calm down! Jesus! If you would re-read my post I was JUST wondering if you had used it correctly! God in short-shorts, take a breath before you start spewing all over!

And you didn’t answer my question: WHAT would you be doing all day if you were not in school? Should I type slower? Man, you should go hook up with Brithael!

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 1999, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoopid-school-system/2382/22 "1999-09-17T23:01:00Z")

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(A quiet space amidst the Pit flames)

Thank you Chris! Appearances DO count. Kryptonite, you’re right–we don’t know you. All we have to judge you by are your posts. If your writing is filled with errors in grammar, punctuation, tense, and usage, this is how we must perforce view you.

It’s not a very big jump to that conclusion. Especially in the Pit.

-andros-

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**Author:** ![Byzantine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dfb087/32.png) [@Byzantine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Byzantine)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 1999, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoopid-school-system/2382/23 "1999-09-17T23:47:00Z")

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I’ve just got to add this:

There is a big difference between someone occasionally making a mistake like an for is or some similar typo and keyboard drooling. Spelling doesn’t become a major issue unless the words are so badly mangled we can’t tell what you mean. Punctuation errors or eccentricity in your punctuation is pretty much forgiven. The slams you are getting are due to the fact that we are having difficultly understanding you.

No one out here jumps on every little error. What we jump on is when the errors are so plentiful that the post is almost impossible to decipher. We WANT to communicate with you; help us out!

Honestly, even though I’m the one who posted the bitch about this topic I don’t run around and slam every error I see. And my own posts are sometimes filled with sentence fragments or other big no nos like starting a sentence with and. However, I’ve never had anyone write back that they didn’t understand the point I was making.

Now, if you want to spew all over me go ahead. Just try to be coherent about it! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 1999, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoopid-school-system/2382/24 "1999-09-18T00:01:00Z")

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Krptonite wants to be a teacher? Good grief! I’m now quite pleased that my daughter is attending school in another country.

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**Author:** ![Gilligan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Gilligan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gilligan)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 1999, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoopid-school-system/2382/25 "1999-09-18T00:30:00Z")

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> …but what a PE class teaches you is how to compete, and how to be sportsmanlike. Sportsmanship is important in all areas of life. You’ll learn how to win honorably, and lose gracefully.

Clearly, we attended different high schools!

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**Author:** ![ChrisCTP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@ChrisCTP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChrisCTP)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 1999, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoopid-school-system/2382/26 "1999-09-18T00:32:00Z")

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Yeah, gym sucks.

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Veni, Vidi, Visa … I came, I saw, I bought.

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**Author:** ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 1999, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoopid-school-system/2382/27 "1999-09-18T00:40:00Z")

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Yeah, gym does suck. It sucks a whole lot of big, hairy, dead things, and I avoided it until senior year. I guess I was trying to say, in the gentlest way possible, if it sucks, it builds character, so deal with it. 😉

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**Author:** ![Byzantine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dfb087/32.png) [@Byzantine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Byzantine)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 1999, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoopid-school-system/2382/28 "1999-09-18T00:49:00Z")

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Ahem, allow me to add: PE teaches you to care for your body by being active. Some classes exercise your brain (math, chem, English) other classes develop your creative side (art, photography) but PE works the body and I think it’s just as important as all the rest.

Yeah, I hated PE in high school but now I’m quite the fitness buff and can really see why it was important. Of course, this is just IMHO.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 1999, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoopid-school-system/2382/29 "1999-09-18T00:51:00Z")

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Good point Byzantine. I’m closer to the pro-exercise camp now that I used to be (I’m willing to get up to switch the channel if I can’t find the remote).

Gym sucked in HS. I hated gym, I hated jocks.

But I could at least put together a coherent paragraph when I wanted to persuade someone to my point of view.

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**Author:** ![ChrisCTP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@ChrisCTP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChrisCTP)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 1999, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoopid-school-system/2382/30 "1999-09-18T00:55:00Z")

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Maybe that’s what most PE teachers are like. MY PE teacher, however, was a royal bitch who only cared about how the cheerleaders were taking care of their bodies.

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Veni, Vidi, Visa … I came, I saw, I bought.

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**Author:** ![Kryptonite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/6bbea6/32.png) [@Kryptonite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kryptonite)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 1999, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoopid-school-system/2382/31 "1999-09-18T02:18:00Z")

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sorry guys but i didnt think my posts were that incoherent. you people must be stoopid :)…anyways this entire topic didnt turn out the way it was supposed too…suppose i told you i went to school in Kansas? suddenly you’d agree with me 😉

oh and if i didnt go to school id get 8hours of sleep a night and id probably get a job. ya know the kind you people have? no one finds their niche in life in HS.

i learned about winning and losing and being graceful on both ends by playing with my friends. we arent allowed to compete in gym and i never have done enough to help tone my body. If anything PE has given me more stress and anxiety, even though im pretty good in sports and enjoy doing a little work out every now and then.

You people have spoken to me like im not experienced in life. I am, maybe not to the extent of my aging buds here but im not deaf, blind and stupid. i dunno, it seems weve gone to different schools in different lifetimes. next time i post something to the pit, shoot me.

Krypto

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**Author:** ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 1999, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoopid-school-system/2382/32 "1999-09-18T02:23:00Z")

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If you told us you went to school in Kansas, we’d just encourage you to go buy your own science books, with the money you’d earn flipping burgers at McDonald’s.

And pray tell, why can’t you get eight hours of sleep while you’re in high school? I’m married, raising children, and have a full- time job, and I can do it.

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**Author:** ![Kryptonite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/6bbea6/32.png) [@Kryptonite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kryptonite)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 1999, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoopid-school-system/2382/33 "1999-09-18T02:42:00Z")

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LOL, if i dont flip your freakin burgers who will? maybe ill be like Bill Cosby and go on to own your ass. what do you know? some of the greatest people ever to live on this rock never went to school and did just damn fine.

i dont enjoy having some teachers determine my self worth by a bunch of numbers, it sickens me to think of the system we have now. why dont you criticize that instead of me?

maybe you don’t know what homework is, but i get truckloads of it. not to mention stress and anxiety keeping me up and just wanting to be a teenager and to enjoy myself. We are on this planet for such a short time, i wanna learn what i wanna learn, pursue what i want to pursue and live and enjoy. i bet you’d wanna do the same. i question why things are and you ask why i ask.

for incoherent msgs this ones a topper!

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 1999, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoopid-school-system/2382/34 "1999-09-18T02:53:00Z")

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'Kay, Kryptonite. How about this:

Yes, school sucks.  
Yes, the educational system in the US has its problems.  
Yes, sometimes the grading system at your school is capricious and arbitrary.  
But, you are young. That’s not a bad thing. But it’s true, and it means that there are a lot of things you haven’t experienced yet. The past couple years you’ve been too busy with interpersonal relationships and hormones and school and parents to have had much of a chance to gain world experience and have fun with it.  
It sucks. We’ve been there. But it gets better, eventually.

I don’t mean to sound pedantic or condescending. Just calling 'em as I see 'em.

And it really WAS damn funny to see your very sloppy and poorly edited post complaining about school. Sorta like “hukkd awn fawnix werkd fer mee.”

That WAS meant to sound pedantic. Sorry.

-andros-

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**Author:** ![Persephone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@Persephone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Persephone)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 1999, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoopid-school-system/2382/35 "1999-09-18T03:01:00Z")

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Kryptonite, settle down. Please, just settle down. Sure, you can flip burgers. It is a noble profession. I have an empty fry box on my computer table right now, and I am mighty grateful that someone was there to fill that box when I needed it.

I know what homework is, too. I have sooooooo been there, and sooooooo done that. I never said it was awesome and fun. If you’ll read my first response to your post, you’ll see that I didn’t much care for school either, and I chose not to continue my education after high school.

When I was a sophomore in high school, I thought I knew everything too. Then I got out on my own, and realized in a great big hurry I didn’t know shit, and I’d better learn how to take care of my own ass in a real damn hurry. The most important lesson I learned was that being out of school does NOT equal being free to do whatever I wanted to do. No way, no how. We all find that one out eventually. Someone, somewhere will demand something of you, and it will suck, but you’ll have no choice but to do what they say.

Work at McDonald’s until you finish school. Then you’ll have enough of an education to tell your boss to kiss your ass…in Latin.

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**Author:** ![Kryptonite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/6bbea6/32.png) [@Kryptonite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kryptonite)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 1999, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoopid-school-system/2382/36 "1999-09-18T03:23:00Z")

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i dont work in mcdonalds people! hehe you guys are funny. i never claimed to know it all, but ive been out there. i can survive out there, i know i can. this isnt some stupid kid saying it, i know i can.

i live in Brooklyn, NY. ive been mugged & attacked. I’ve opened up a fathers friend of mines store, and ran it multiple times this past year. The store is located on Church Avenue which is kinda like a Brooklyn harlem. i dont have a problem answering to the highers ups if im making a living, but i dont like answering to a teacher when im just wasting my time. this entire topic has been misunderstood from the beggining and any further discussion would be a waste of time.

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**Author:** ![Felinecare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Felinecare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Felinecare)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 1999, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoopid-school-system/2382/37 "1999-09-18T03:57:00Z")

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> The next incarnation of Albert Einstein you may be, but Dale Carnegie you ain’t.

Nor e.e. cummings or bell hooks.

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**Author:** ![Byzantine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dfb087/32.png) [@Byzantine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Byzantine)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 1999, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoopid-school-system/2382/38 "1999-09-18T05:45:00Z")

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Kryptonite shared: next time i post something to the pit, shoot me.

Okay, no shoving, I’ve got the howitzer ready so line up behind me! 🙂 Sorry, I just couldn’t resist!

Kryptonite then shared: this entire topic has been misunderstood from the beggining and any further discussion would be a waste of time.

Okay, true enough. However, it was misunderstood because of you! So what can I say? I’m more than willing to discuss problems in the school system but if I can’t understand you…

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**Author:** ![Doobieous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/da6949/32.png) [@Doobieous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doobieous)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 1999, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoopid-school-system/2382/39 "1999-09-18T08:32:00Z")

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> maybe you don’t know what homework is, but i get truckloads of it.not to mention stress and anxiety keeping me up and just wanting to be a teenager and to enjoy myself.

You have no idea what homework is until you reach college. Trust me, the real world is a lot more stressful than HS is. Your life is easy.

Do you want a family? If so, don’t be surprised when you don’t get to live that free life you want right now. Do you plan to go to college? Again, you think HS is hard, wait untill you actually have to prove you know your shit to get your diploma.

I actually kind of wish I were in HS right now, then i wouldn’t have the stress of worrying about tuition, money, those 12 page term papers and then final presentations, paying off my student loans when I graduate, and all the other stuff that goes with the lovely world of College (not that I hate college, I love it, but HS is much less stressful).

Oh and if you think you can be a teacher without further schooling (i believe you said earlier you wanted to), you can’t be one unless you go to college.

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**Author:** ![Byzantine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dfb087/32.png) [@Byzantine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Byzantine)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 1999, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stoopid-school-system/2382/40 "1999-09-18T09:02:00Z")

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I’m sorry, call me someone who just won’t leave this poor bastard alone but:

Homework? You think homework is tough? Wow, I’m moved, deeply, like right in my bowels! Like all over you!

I agree with Doobieous, HS is a cake walk compared to college where they really do expect you to think for yourself. You have too much now? DON’T go to college then, you’ll never sleep!

And what? You think us “older” folks (God, I’m saying this and I’m all of 33!) have some kind of joy ride all day where we do whatever the fuck we want? I’m one of the lucky ones, working at home, but even with that if I don’t work I don’t eat, have a home, yadda yadda yadda.

I live alone and run the entire household. This includes; mowing the lawn, taking out the trash, laundry, cleaning, shopping, cooking, yadda yadda yadda.

What is your bitch? That the school system sucks? That you think everyone else has it easy? God in short-shorts man! We all have problems, we all have things we “have” to do that we would rather not but that’s what being an adult is all about.

I’d love to just run around naked on the beach, fuck anyone I see that turns me on, drink, smoke dope and party until my brain leaks out like goo from my ears. But I don’t because I like having a nice home, good friends, meaningful relationships, and no hassle with the law. I’m an adult (most of the time!).

Okay, I’m done ranting and raving at you, you won’t listen (read it) anyway. But hey, I feel better and that’s really all I care about as far as you’re concerned! 🙂

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