# Stop claiming it was a joke, you piece of crap

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**Created:** [May 29, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075 "2018-05-29T17:50:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/181 "2018-05-30T14:59:41Z")

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I see the wingnut whataboutism is centering on Bill Maher: why is he getting away with saying allegedly similar stuff to that which got Roseanne canned?

I don’t know, and I don’t care. If the wingnuts want to protest things Maher said, they should knock themselves out. If they weren’t upset about him already, but are suddenly up in arms about him now, then why should anybody think they’re serious about any of this, except as a big ‘gotcha’ game?

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/182 "2018-05-30T15:03:55Z")

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It’s amazing what has happened on the right over the last 24 hours.

_Joy Behar should’ve been fired for insulting Christians!_

You know, she said that people who hear the voice of god in their head telling them what to do should be checked for mental illness.

Yes, if you actually “hear” the voice of god in your head, you’re mentally ill.

_All these people insulting Trump should be fired!_

Sure, and all of the people who insulted Obama were just using their Freedom of Speech as you folks claimed at the time, right? Even when they hung him in effigy or used absolutely racist insults? Right?

_Liberals insult us all the time! They should all be fired!_

Let us know when all those Conservatives who call Liberals ‘sub-human’ or ‘not people’ (see Don Jr’s regular tweets) or say Liberals should be shot are fired from their jobs.

_Soros was a Nazi! He admitted helping the Nazis!_

What the FUCK does this have to do with anything? Besides the fact that he was conscripted to deliver reporting notices to area Jews in 1944 (at the age of 14) and was also instructed by good people to let those people know at the same time that if they did report in, they would be deported to the camps.

_You’re just a brainwashed Liberal and blah blah blah_

People posting deliberately false information without verifying it’s truth, then brushing off corrections and facts by declaring the other person is “brainwashed” and a slew of other insults. Got no respect for that.

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**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/183 "2018-05-30T15:09:20Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> OK. One of my Canadian relatives posted (shared) this.
> 
> How true is it?
> 
> "Roseanne:
> 
> I believe that each employer has the right to fire anyone they wish at anytime for behaviors they find unacceptable.  
> ABC has this right as well as the NFL! My only issue with this action by ABC to cancel the Roseanne show is there utter Hypocracy!  
> Weeks ago, Joy Baehar…of the View mocked Christians who believe that God speaks to them should be evaluated for Mental Illness! Muslims, Christians, Hindus,Jews and others believe in a personal relationship with the Creator…and Yes, we believe the almighty speaks to us in his own way.  
> Joy wasn’t fired for offending millions of believers. Moreover, this network supports and retains bigots of all kinds…because the people they attack and mock …are Conservatives, Christians…all is acceptable as long as the targets are not Liberal.  
> While I would not have used the same exact words to describe Valerie Jarret, Obama’s close advisor, I personally have great anger towards this woman. She and the enablers around her / Obama…was directly involved in the direct rape, torture, enslavement and murder of thousands of innocent Arab, Kurd, Yazi, Persian and Shi’a …across 8 nation’s across the Mideast. The Nobel peace prize winner Obama …brought death, chaos and human suffering and the greatest refugee crisis since WW2!  
> The poor souls of the Mideast have more choice words that describe what they think of Obama and those around him who allowed his war-crimes. Ask the orphans, ask the widows, ask the families of the 5 thousand killed by Obama’s Drones…ask them what words they would use to describe Jarret, Hillary, Kerry and the rest. I assure everyone…Roseanne’s comments are tame in comparison.  
> With this said.fire anyone you wish ABC…just be fair in your judgement and punishment! In the end…the market and the consumer will decide the ultimate fate of all!"
> 
> ETA: Quoted from one Shane Philip.

Do you truly think this could be true? :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/184 "2018-05-30T15:13:45Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> It’s amazing what has happened on the right over the last 24 hours.
> 
> _Joy Behar should’ve been fired for insulting Christians!_
> 
> You know, she said that people who hear the voice of god in their head telling them what to do should be checked for mental illness.
> 
> Yes, if you actually “hear” the voice of god in your head, you’re mentally ill.
> 
> _All these people insulting Trump should be fired!_
> 
> Sure, and all of the people who insulted Obama were just using their Freedom of Speech as you folks claimed at the time, right? Even when they hung him in effigy or used absolutely racist insults? Right?
> 
> _Liberals insult us all the time! They should all be fired!_
> 
> Let us know when all those Conservatives who call Liberals ‘sub-human’ or ‘not people’ (see Don Jr’s regular tweets) or say Liberals should be shot are fired from their jobs.
> 
> _Soros was a Nazi! He admitted helping the Nazis!_
> 
> What the FUCK does this have to do with anything? Besides the fact that he was conscripted to deliver reporting notices to area Jews in 1944 (at the age of 14) and was also instructed by good people to let those people know at the same time that if they did report in, they would be deported to the camps.
> 
> _You’re just a brainwashed Liberal and blah blah blah_
> 
> People posting deliberately false information without verifying it’s truth, then brushing off corrections and facts by declaring the other person is “brainwashed” and a slew of other insults. Got no respect for that.

I don’t believe this post. No way people who post those things would spell “you’re” correctly!

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/185 "2018-05-30T15:37:12Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Roseanne’s toast, but it wouldn’t surprise me to see her get some sort of talk show on some alt-right platform at some point.

It would shock me if this talk show weren’t already in the works. Hell, she’ll probably become a Fox News commentator. For Trump’s base, being fired for a racist tweet makes you a champion of anti-political-correctness.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/186 "2018-05-30T15:42:07Z")

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I think we need to discover what this dreaded “Hypocracy!” is.

Maybe the writer meant ‘Hype-ocracy,’ a system of government based on hype. I wouldn’t want that either.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/187 "2018-05-30T15:43:14Z")

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I could see some people on the right thinking about it. By all means, _ **Please Proceed** _! 😃

You’ll find that she’s batshit insane and isn’t a Republican.

And their tender fee-fees will be so hurt that she wasn’t who they thought she was.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/188 "2018-05-30T15:50:53Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> That might cut their viewership by hundreds.

They woulda lost me, but I gave up around when First Becky did. Wife said, “No! She was a wonderful actress. Didn’t you see the one where she…?” Of course I did; I was massaging your feet, but that didn’t make the episode better.

> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Her talent agent just fired her, too.

Cite? Not that I doubt you; I just like to gloat.

> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Roseanne reaps what she sows, AND you laugh without mentioning a quarry? I think our country has finally rounded the bend, y’all!

This.

> [@Bricker](#):
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> ABC has every right…

> [@Whiskey\_Dickens](#):
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> Aw, Bricker. Goddamn it.

This. I hit “snooze” the moment a lawyer starts talking.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/189 "2018-05-30T15:51:50Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> she’s batshit insane and isn’t a Republican.

In other words, she’s Trump with tits.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/190 "2018-05-30T15:52:25Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> They tweeted it as well.
> 
> [x.com](https://twitter.com/SanofiUS/status/1001824999496404992?s=19)
> 
> Our world is weird.

And [Dictionary.com](http://Dictionary.com) got in on it as well:

> <https://twitter.com/Dictionarycom/status/1001808486827810816>
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> New York Daily News @NYDailyNews

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/191 "2018-05-30T15:54:58Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Cite? Not that I doubt you; I just like to gloat.

It took 'em an hour or two after the ABC move, [but they did](http://deadline.com/2018/05/roseanne-barr-fired-dropped-icm-partners-after-racist-tweets-1202399331/).

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/192 "2018-05-30T15:56:45Z")

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I kind of wish they had fired Barr and then cast a black woman to play her character. Make such a radical change and then have it go totally unacknowledged.

Having a ardent black female Trump supporter as a sitcom protagonist defies expectations enough to be funny all its own; you could make something out of this even if you didn’t have very talented writers to work with. What a missed opportunity.

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**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/193 "2018-05-30T15:59:08Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> And [Dictionary.com](http://Dictionary.com) got in on it as well:
> 
> [x.com](https://twitter.com/Dictionarycom/status/1001808486827810816)

Merriam-Webster has a standing tradition of throwing shade in it’s twitter feed. Glad to see [Dictionary.com](http://Dictionary.com) has joined in.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/194 "2018-05-30T16:01:22Z")

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> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#):
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> I kind of wish they had fired Barr and then cast a black woman to play her character. Make such a radical change and then have it go totally unacknowledged.

I could see Leslie Jones and John Goodman doing that in an SNL sketch this fall.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/195 "2018-05-30T16:01:34Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Anyone else suspect that this may have been of a last straw kind of thing, and that there was probably more going on behind the scenes? I honestly would not be surprised if they had been having issues with her and were just looking for an excuse to cancel the show.

I think this is correct. She’s on their top rated show. If it was just one tweet, I think they would have stayed in. The tweet was stupid, but she could have weathered it if it was handled right. I think ABC saw that she was too unstable and probably had reports of other bad behavior.

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**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/196 "2018-05-30T16:03:29Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> In other words, she’s Trump with tits.

Trump has the best moobs!

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/197 "2018-05-30T16:11:22Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> This is your America, republicans. Ain’t it great?

You mean an America where a hit show is cancelled because its star made a racist comment? Yes, that is great and the vast majority of Republicans would applaud that. Now, if the show had continued your comment might have made a sort of sense. As it is, it didn’t.

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**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/198 "2018-05-30T16:13:45Z")

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Haha she doesn’t know when to quit, now she is attacking her fellow cast members on Twitter, including Sara Gilbert, and DJ since my brain can’t be bothered to retain his real name.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/199 "2018-05-30T16:26:14Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> You mean an America where a hit show is cancelled because its star made a racist comment? Yes, that is great and the vast majority of Republicans would applaud that. Now, if the show had continued your comment might have made a sort of sense. As it is, it didn’t.

You should go read the comments on right wing sites about it.

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**Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/200 "2018-05-30T16:35:32Z")

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> [@Akaj](#):
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> Hell, she’ll probably become a Fox News commentator.

Not bloody likely unless the White Nationalism Fairy waves a magic wand and turns her into a slender leggy blonde.

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