# Stop claiming it was a joke, you piece of crap **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075 "2018-05-29T17:50:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/201 "2018-05-30T16:36:10Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Roseanne’s blamed her vile tweets on Ambien, but Sanofi US (maker of Ambien) [for the win](https://twitter.com/ElizLanders/status/1001830931668393984): That’s just superb. > [@pool](#): > > Haha she doesn’t know when to quit, now she is attacking her fellow cast members on Twitter, including Sara Gilbert, and DJ since my brain can’t be bothered to retain his real name. Spiraling, spiraling down… Apparently she is a Trumpist because like him, she just can’t shut the fuck up when she should. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/202 "2018-05-30T17:00:43Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > ABC has every right to cancel the show; Barr is an entertainer and ABC depends upon her, in part, to present their face positively to the public. > > So I fully support ABC’s decision. > > Much like the NFL had similar rights to deal with Colin Kaepernick. Really? That’s all you have to say about it? Of course they have rights, but we as the public and as consumers have the right and the moral obligation to judge them for how they exercise their rights and punish or reward them as we see fit. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/203 "2018-05-30T17:18:21Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > I see the wingnut whataboutism is centering on Bill Maher: why is he getting away with saying allegedly similar stuff to that which got Roseanne canned? I hate the guy’s shit, but I can’t remember anything he’s said that was like this. Looking it up, it seems that it’s because he calls Trump a gorilla. They are really doubling down on this “not getting it” bullshit, aren’t they? Not just the lack of racial overtones, but also not getting what type of show the guy makes? And forgetting what network it is on? Of course, the idiotic White House Correspondents Dinner had to give them a taste of power, so of course they think they can just make up bullshit offenses and get it taken down. Here’s hoping HBO is made of sterner stuff than the fucking press of the United States. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/204 "2018-05-30T17:18:25Z")
The right wing instantly tried to pivot from Roseanne to this NFL talking point. I don’t what it has to do with Roseanne other than they, like Roseanne, don’t particularly like black people, but the pivot was amazingly fast for an event that happened during a holiday week. Now of course we are in bizarre right wing world where a Trump supporter making a racist comment is the same as a black athlete protesting police brutality and we are spending energy engaging in their deflection as if the argument had merit. American Republicans are truly horrible people. Just horrible fucking people. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/205 "2018-05-30T17:20:44Z")
> [@you\_with\_the\_face](#): > > I kind of wish they had fired Barr and then cast a black woman to play her character. Make such a radical change and then have it go totally unacknowledged. > > Having a ardent black female Trump supporter as a sitcom protagonist defies expectations enough to be funny all its own; you could make something out of this even if you didn’t have very talented writers to work with. What a missed opportunity. Naw, said elsewhere the best replacement would have been Rosie O’Donnell. You wouldn’t have to change a thing, not even the show’s name! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/206 "2018-05-30T17:23:45Z")
> [@Dag\_Otto](#): > > I admit that I don’t pay much attention to far right loons, but why the attention on Valerie Jarrett in the first place? Is it just nutjob conspiracy bullshit? I read her dad’s column religiously. Bright guy. My daughters are not stupid, but White House material? Maybe one, but Regression to Mean is my family’s story, > [@Jennshark](#): > > I swear I spend far more time crafting and editing the “special instructions” for my Grub Hub orders than a good number of politicians, actors, and other public people do with Tweets, texts, and other electronic media that can be read by millions of people… This. I mean, “Duh.” I obviously mean that I burn more brain cells typing “Honk to wake up the dogs” than I do on any post here. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/207 "2018-05-30T17:36:22Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Really? That’s all you have to say about it? > > Of course they have rights, but we as the public and as consumers have the right and the moral obligation to judge them for how they exercise their rights and punish or reward them as we see fit. She thought that, like Trump, she could say anything she wanted to because she was so powerful. But with great power comes great responsibility. Hey-I should copyright that. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/208 "2018-05-30T17:37:05Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > I could see Leslie Jones and John Goodman doing that in an SNL sketch this fall. Or have Melissa MacCarthy play her in blackface. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/209 "2018-05-30T17:46:49Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Or have Melissa MacCarthy play her in blackface. What an incredibly bad suggestion. Have you no shame? ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/210 "2018-05-30T18:01:33Z")
Trump should name her new White House press secretary! That’ll teach the press! Ha! ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/211 "2018-05-30T18:14:53Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > I see the wingnut whataboutism is centering on Bill Maher: why is he getting away with saying allegedly similar stuff to that which got Roseanne canned? Besides, it’s consistent. Maher also got fired from ABC for making comments that people felt were inappropriate. No whataboutism about it. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/212 "2018-05-30T18:15:03Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > Stupid, stupid Roseanne. She’s been around long enough to realize that there is a double standard in the media. Liberals can insult conservatives all they like without boundaries\*, but if a conservative insults a liberal? Whoa, that’s beyond the pale!!! She should know better. Stupid bitch. > > \*off the top of my head, Steven Colbert’s “cock holster” diatribe comes to mind You see nothing wrong with black people being compared to apes? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/213 "2018-05-30T18:50:40Z")
Well, the apes were kind of the good guys in the movie, really. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/214 "2018-05-30T19:24:39Z")
As some folks here probably know, this isn’t the first time RB compared a black woman to an ape: > [@RB in 2013](#): > > susan rice is a man with big swinging ape balls I think the network did the right thing here, but it’s not like we (or they) didn’t know all this before the reboot was given the go-ahead. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/215 "2018-05-30T20:51:42Z")
Conservative foreign policy expert Tom Nichols on twitter: [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT] Last week: Roseanne really connects to Trump voters and speaks to them in a way you elites just don’t get. That’s why he called her. This week: You Never Trumpers are just crazy and obsessive to draw any connection between Trump and the disgraceful racist he was congratulating. [/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status/1001810660391641088](https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status/1001810660391641088) Neoconservative Max Boot: [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT] Racists such as Roseanne may feel emboldened to vent their hatred because they see Trump doing it. This should not be a radical idea for conservatives. They used to believe that a president’s conduct mattered. Me in @PostOpinions [/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [https://twitter.com/MaxBoot/status/1001924724396560386](https://twitter.com/MaxBoot/status/1001924724396560386) In other news: [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT] John Bolton has chosen Fred Fleitz as the new NSC chief of staff. Fleitz is Senior VP of Frank Gaffney’s Center for Security Policy, an @splcenter designated hate group that @ADL\_National condemns as “dedicated to advancement of myriad conspiracy theories & anti-Muslim extremism” [/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] CSP were the clowns who pushed the Valerie Jarrett / Muslim Brotherhood conspiracy theory referenced in Roseanne’s tweet. Their guy has a leading post in the National Security Council now. [https://twitter.com/mattduss/status/1001795446824689664](https://twitter.com/mattduss/status/1001795446824689664) * * * Trump continues to receive solid backing from the Fortune 500. > **[Why corporate America loves Donald Trump](https://www.economist.com/leaders/2018/05/24/why-corporate-america-loves-donald-trump)** > > American executives are betting that the president is good for business. Not in the long run ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/216 "2018-05-30T21:24:01Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > Stupid, stupid Roseanne. She’s been around long enough to realize that there is a double standard in the media. Liberals can insult conservatives all they like without boundaries\*, but if a conservative insults a liberal? Whoa, that’s beyond the pale!!! She should know better. Stupid bitch. > > \*off the top of my head, Steven Colbert’s “cock holster” diatribe comes to mind It must be horrible to be you. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/217 "2018-05-30T22:22:01Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > It must be horrible to be you. Yeah, we only have to read a racist or ignorant comment for thirty seconds. Some people have them ricocheting around in their heads all day and night. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2018, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/218 "2018-05-30T22:35:03Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > But with great power comes great responsibility. AKSHULLY, with the greatest power that has ever been seen, what we call the tippy-top of power ; comes no responsibility whatsoever because nobody in history has been treated as unfairly for what’s totally Obama’s fault anyway. Sad. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/219 "2018-05-31T00:11:37Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Yeah, we only have to read a racist or ignorant comment for thirty seconds. Some people have them ricocheting around in their heads all day and night. Think about how hard it must be just to go to the store for a loaf of bread with all that hate in his heart. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/220 "2018-05-31T00:14:15Z")
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