# Stop claiming it was a joke, you piece of crap **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075 "2018-05-29T17:50:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/241 "2018-05-31T15:54:34Z")
> [@Boacrow](#): > > I’m all for people protecting themselves, and I do not condone what she said, I never liked her in the first place. However, I do defend her right to say whatever she wants without retribution. To me, that’s what free speech is. Well, maybe that’s what free speech is _to you_, but the framers of the First Amendment seem to have had other ideas: > [@](#): > > **Congress shall make no law** respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. Bolding mine. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/242 "2018-05-31T16:00:39Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Registered and headed straight for the Pit. Somebody lose a sock? He came in like a hurricane. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/243 "2018-05-31T17:22:17Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > He came in like a hurricane. Spouting **Octoputz** ’s agenda like a brother-in-arms. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/244 "2018-05-31T17:28:17Z")
> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#): > > \*off the top of my head, Steven Colbert’s “cock holster” diatribe comes to mind Which of course was done as a satire based on the offensive things the Trump said. Let me guess, you probably think Johnathan Swift hated the Irish. ETA: Realizing that this reference probably went over the head of someone with your limited erudition. [Here is a hint](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal) about what I’m referring to. ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/245 "2018-05-31T17:39:24Z")
Bill Maher - Muslim Jokes; all being terrorists and rapists George Lopez - White Jokes; racist, rich and stuck up Steve Harvey - Asian Jokes; cheap and bad drivers Roseanne Barr makes a Muslim joke that is **much milder** than other similar jokes that are accepted and says the woman who is not obvious in her black ancestry(i found that out here, I didn’t even know) has similarity to the female creature from Planet Of The Apes… Turn off the leftist conspiracy radar, it had nothing to do with her being part black. What’s the only difference? She supports Trump. Virtue signaling as far as the eyes can see and ears can hear. The joke was definitely poorly planned and could have been better but **yes it was an attempt at a joke** that failed. Sure it was obviously and definitely ABC’s right to cancel, but don’t even try to think they are doing it because of some moral/ethical reasoning. It is because they are afraid of the virtuous, holier than thou leftist contingent being easily offended and losing money/sponsors and viewers, nothing more. They were afraid of the backlash from the masses of butthurt people with too much misplaced guilt. People really need to fucking get over themselves and the overinflated sense of moral worthiness to society. ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/246 "2018-05-31T17:41:34Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Well, the primary distinction between conservatives and liberals is, “Which can feel actual human emotions,” so I guess you’re not wrong there. > > But the issue you’re missing is that nobody\* is really arguing that what NFL or ABC has done is illegal. The NFL is absolutely free to censure or support their players, as they see fit. ABC can drop or support Roseanne, that’s entirely their call, and nobody is saying that legally, that should be different. **Bricker** ’s “I support this and the NFL because laws!” is a distraction, because this isn’t a legal debate. It’s a moral/ethical debate, and **Bricker** has a long habit of deliberately mistaking one for the other, hence the hostility he’s receiving in this thread. > > \*Nobody worth worrying about, at any rate. There are, of course, knobs at either end who don’t understand that the first five words of the first amendment are “Congress shall make no law…” The same principle applies to “Shall Not Be Infringed” in another particular amendment, but I digress. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/247 "2018-05-31T17:42:57Z")
> [@anomalous1](#): > > Roseanne Barr makes a Muslim joke that is **much milder** Go back and read my OP, you pathetic loser. Targeted racism or bullying is never a joke. That’s gaslighting by the asshole who said it to put the blame on the victim for reacting to it. > [@](#): > > Virtue signaling Virtue Signalling: \* A phrase uttered by vile human beings in a vain attempt to insult and deride others for being better humans than they are. \* > [@](#): > > People really need to fucking get over themselves and the overinflated sense of moral worthiness to society. Translation: _“People need to stop thinking they’re better than me!”_ ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/248 "2018-05-31T17:43:57Z")
> [@anomalous1](#): > > The same principle applies to “Shall Not Be Infringed” in another particular amendment, but I digress. Clearly missing the “well regulated” part earlier in that amendment as being inconvenient. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/249 "2018-05-31T17:46:49Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Spouting **Octoputz** ’s agenda like a brother-in-arms. in-arms, in-arms, in-arms, in-arms, in-arms, in-arms, in-arms. ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/250 "2018-05-31T17:48:25Z")
_Go back and read my OP, you pathetic loser. Targeted racism or bullying is never a joke. That’s gaslighting by the asshole who said it to put the blame on the victim for reacting to it._ **Then why is it accepted and not outrage inducing to those that are ‘approved’ by sharing similar political ideology?** \*Virtue Signalling: \* A phrase uttered by vile human beings in a vain attempt to insult and deride others for being better humans than they are. \*\* **Now for a real definition from Cambridge Dictionary: "_an attempt to show other people that you are a good person, for example by expressing opinions that will be acceptable to them, especially on social media_"** \*Translation: _“People need to stop thinking they’re better than me!”_ **Actual Translation: "Liberal bleeding hearts need to stop thinking they are better than everyone else and know what is best for the world"** ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/251 "2018-05-31T17:49:50Z")
> [@Jennshark](#): > > The worst things I’ve done on Ambien are eating an entire bag of Tostito’s at 2am and storing my laptop in the fridge overnight.\* > > … It can make you forget to mail in a registration too. ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/252 "2018-05-31T17:53:22Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Clearly missing the “well regulated” part earlier in that amendment as being inconvenient. :rolleyes: No, it is very self explanatory and literal. “well-regulated militia” Definition of “militia” from American Heritage Dictionary: \* An army composed of ordinary citizens rather than professional soldiers.\* ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/253 "2018-05-31T17:55:07Z")
> [@Boacrow](#): > > I think it’s ironic that quite a few people have so much to say about offensive things people have said while lacing their comments with fucks and goddamns, both also offensive to many people, one prohibited by the ten commandments which many people hold dear. But hey, free speach right? Commandment 3: You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain. I did not realize that “fuck” was God’s name. > [@](#): > > I live in the deep south where I hear racist speech all the time, it’s apparently part of the DNA down here. I don’t condone it, I don’t appreciate it, I also don’t get offended by it. Why? Because I can keep myself separated from it. I don’t have to believe it just because I heard it. I don’t have to like someone who says it. I’m not required to abide by some Jethro’s world view. I don’t want to step on their free speech for one reason, I don’t want them stepping on mine. Ever think about telling these racists that you find their speech offensive? If one of these louts called your sister a whore, would you just smile and not get offended also? ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/254 "2018-05-31T17:55:17Z")
> [@anomalous1](#): > > Bill Maher - Muslim Jokes; all being terrorists and rapists > > George Lopez - White Jokes; racist, rich and stuck up > > Steve Harvey - Asian Jokes; cheap and bad drivers > > Roseanne Barr makes a Muslim joke that is **much milder** than other similar jokes that are accepted This is just like those “gotcha ya!” threads that pull out some obscure thing that just happened and demand why there is no liberal outrage. I hadn’t even heard of the last two’s style of jokes, so feel free to start your own thread if you’re offended. Bill Maher does get his share of stick on this MB for his offensiveness. ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/255 "2018-05-31T17:57:30Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Clearly missing the “well regulated” part earlier in that amendment as being inconvenient. :rolleyes: Let’s break down some key words. “A **well regulated militia** , being necessary to the security of a free state, the **right of the people** to **keep and bear arms** , **shall not be infringed**.” That’s two implications of ordinary citizens and not professional/organized military. The mere fact that it is reiterated is more than enough to prove its meaning. Enough side-tracking. Let the Republican bashing continue as it were. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/256 "2018-05-31T17:59:57Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > This is just like those “gotcha ya!” threads that pull out some obscure thing that just happened and demand why there is no liberal outrage. I hadn’t even heard of the last two’s style of jokes, so feel free to start your own thread if you’re offended. Bill Maher does get his share of stick on this MB for his offensiveness. Not in this same volume, he doesn’t. This is not a “gotcha ya!” thread or whatever that is. I am not offended at all, I just don’t like obvious hypocrisy. Even then, it’s fine but those that profess such alleged integrity in their morals at least need to be congruent at least half the time. It’s like they don’t even try. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/257 "2018-05-31T18:00:55Z")
“THIS HISPANIC COMEDIAN IS MAKING FUN OF THE GUY WHO SAID HIS PEOPLE WERE ALL RAPISTS AND MURDERERS, AND THAT’S NOT FAIR GUYS!” is not a winning argument, Anon1. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/258 "2018-05-31T18:01:00Z")
> [@anomalous1](#): > > Bill Maher - Muslim Jokes; all being terrorists and rapists > > George Lopez - White Jokes; racist, rich and stuck up > > Steve Harvey - Asian Jokes; cheap and bad drivers > > Roseanne Barr makes a Muslim joke that is **much milder** than other similar jokes that are accepted and says the woman who is not obvious in her black ancestry(i found that out here, I didn’t even know) has similarity to the female creature from Planet Of The Apes… Turn off the leftist conspiracy radar, it had nothing to do with her being part black. > > What’s the only difference? She supports Trump. > > Virtue signaling as far as the eyes can see and ears can hear. The joke was definitely poorly planned and could have been better but **yes it was an attempt at a joke** that failed. Sure it was obviously and definitely ABC’s right to cancel, but don’t even try to think they are doing it because of some moral/ethical reasoning. It is because they are afraid of the virtuous, holier than thou leftist contingent being easily offended and losing money/sponsors and viewers, nothing more. They were afraid of the backlash from the masses of butthurt people with too much misplaced guilt. > > People really need to fucking get over themselves and the overinflated sense of moral worthiness to society. Nothing is more inspiring than a cry to _lower_ the bar when it comes to how he treat each other as human beings. ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/259 "2018-05-31T18:04:35Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Nothing is more inspiring than a cry to _lower_ the bar when it comes to how he treat each other as human beings. It’s quite obviously alluding to the seemingly normal application of hypocrisy from the stereotypical left wing. Nothing to do with lowering the bar, it’s about consistency. If you [general you] want to be taken seriously, you have to at least attempt some consistency in ideology and agenda. ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/260 "2018-05-31T18:06:51Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > “THIS HISPANIC COMEDIAN IS MAKING FUN OF THE GUY WHO SAID HIS PEOPLE WERE ALL RAPISTS AND MURDERERS, AND THAT’S NOT FAIR GUYS!” is not a winning argument, Anon1. HE DID IT FIRST! 😃 Just kidding. In seriousness, Not arguing, just giving my opinions on the matter. Apologies if I seem a little heated with them, have off of work today and have not had any coffee yet. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075.md?page=14)