# Stop claiming it was a joke, you piece of crap **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075 "2018-05-29T17:50:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/261 "2018-05-31T18:09:06Z")
> [@anomalous1](#): > > HE DID IT FIRST! šŸ˜ƒ Just kidding. > > In seriousness, > > Not arguing, just giving my opinions on the matter. Apologies if I seem a little heated with them, have off of work today and have not had any coffee yet. No coffee?? In that case, temporary mental instability is always a valid excuse. Hope you get better. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/262 "2018-05-31T18:09:32Z")
35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.ā€™ 37 ā€œThen the righteous will answer him, ā€˜Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?ā€™ 40 ā€œThe King will reply, ā€˜Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.ā€™ **Anomalous1: _STOP VIRTUE SIGNALLING YOU LEFT WING LOON!_** ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/263 "2018-05-31T18:19:06Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > No coffee?? In that case, temporary mental instability is always a valid excuse. > Hope you get better. Nice! Thanks!šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/264 "2018-05-31T18:20:38Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, > 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.ā€™ > 37 ā€œThen the righteous will answer him, ā€˜Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? > 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? > 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?ā€™ > 40 ā€œThe King will reply, ā€˜Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.ā€™ > > **Anomalous1: _STOP VIRTUE SIGNALLING YOU LEFT WING LOON!_** Not applicable - not a religious zealot Republican. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/265 "2018-05-31T18:39:41Z")
> [@anomalous1](#): > > Not applicable - not a religious zealot Republican. Doesnā€™t matter. Still shows you for the selfish unfeeling troll you are. Helping other people, showing compassion, loving they neighbor, doing good, those are only ā€˜virtue signallingā€™ to you. Theyā€™re wrong to you because those people who do this think theyā€™re better than you and how dare they do things you donā€™t want to do. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/266 "2018-05-31T18:40:10Z")
Which prompts the question- what standards Do Republicans adhere to anymore? It isnā€™t intellectual honesty. It sure isnā€™t accurate arithmetic. From here it looks like the common denominator is hatred, of a white supremacist variety. And conspiracy theories, lots of bullshit conspiracy theories. Throw in a yen for deflection and changing the subject and it looks like I am onto something. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/267 "2018-05-31T18:49:35Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > ā€œTHIS HISPANIC COMEDIAN IS MAKING FUN OF THE GUY WHO SAID HIS PEOPLE WERE ALL RAPISTS AND MURDERERS, AND THATā€™S NOT FAIR GUYS!ā€ is not a winning argument, Anon1. Except he wasnā€™t. There were three distinct things wrong with the sentence youā€™re referencing but accusing an entire people of being rapists and murderers is not one of them. I donā€™t know why people didnā€™t focus on the facts that: Mexico isnā€™t sending them (if anything they try to prevent non-Mexicans from completing their journey to America,) and that they are not even sending ā€œtheirā€ best since a large number of illegal immigrants that cross the border arenā€™t even Mexican, and that those that do cross are not more likely to be violent felons. No, they have to focus on a slur that was not contained in the sentence, which can only be found by misreading ā€œtheirā€ as ā€œtheyā€™reā€. It was an easy sentence to make fun of because not every politician lies three times in such a short sentence, but the easy mark was somehow botched. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/268 "2018-05-31T18:58:45Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Which prompts the question- what standards Do Republicans adhere to anymore? It isnā€™t intellectual honesty. It sure isnā€™t accurate arithmetic. From here it looks like the common denominator is hatred, of a white supremacist variety. And conspiracy theories, lots of bullshit conspiracy theories. Throw in a yen for deflection and changing the subject and it looks like I am onto something. Maintaining power is the only good. They can forgive anything except a loss. ---
**Author:** ![Boacrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5e9695/32.png) [@Boacrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boacrow)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/269 "2018-05-31T19:05:26Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Blah blah blah blah blah. Itā€™s amazing that someone can write six paragraphs and not say a fucking thing. > > Nobody interfered with Barrā€™s first amendment rights, moron. A company chose not to associate themselves with her. Full stop. > > Get it, goddamn dumbass? Thatā€™s pretty fucking offensive. I think you should be fired from your job for being an offensive asshole. That said, if someone penalizes you for saying something, how is that not interfering? Personally, I really donā€™t care what she or anyone else said, including you (I was being facetious above). The simple fact of the matter is, unless someone takes action, word have no effect on my life at all. Say whatever you want. Iā€™ll still get up in the morning and my routine wonā€™t change in the least. I think if more people spoke their mind without fear of reprisal the world would be a better place. At least you would know where they stand and you could make a more informed decision about whether you want to associate with that person. If people are afraid to speak out for fear of being fired or whatever, you might be hanging out with some of these people and not know it. But I guess ignorance is bliss. So go ahead. Call me whatever your heart desires. Be as offensive as you can. To me itā€™s nothing more meaningful than a fly dying across town. I can make an informed judgement based on what I hear though. If I penalize people for saying stuff and they hold back because of it, Iā€™ve taken that away. Do what you want. I really donā€™t care. I just thought it was ironic that people use offensive language to complain about being offensive, thatā€™s all. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/270 "2018-05-31T19:11:36Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > Commandment 3: You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain. > I did not realize that ā€œfuckā€ was Godā€™s name. > > Ever think about telling these racists that you find their speech offensive? If one of these louts called your sister a whore, would you just smile and not get offended also? Itā€™s His middle Name. Short for ā€œFucking.ā€ And His last Name is Dammit. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/271 "2018-05-31T19:13:53Z")
> [@Boacrow](#): > > ā€¦ > > So go ahead. Call me whatever your heart desires. Be as offensive as you can. To ā€¦ You have 8 tentacles in your other life? ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/272 "2018-05-31T19:16:14Z")
> [@anomalous1](#): > > Roseanne Barr makes a Muslim joke that is **much milder** than other similar jokes that are accepted and says the woman who is not obvious in her black ancestry(i found that out here, I didnā€™t even know) has similarity to the female creature from Planet Of The Apesā€¦ Turn off the leftist conspiracy radar, it had nothing to do with her being part black. This is a lie, whether itā€™s on Roseanneā€™s part or yours ā€¦ I donā€™t really care. First off, calling black people ā€œapesā€ has been a racist tradition for hundreds of years. Itā€™s an attempt to paint black people as sub-human savages. Itā€™s laughable to pretend that Roseanne just coincidentally happened on the racist slam thatā€™s been circulating for over a century. Secondly, this is not the first time that Roseanne has compared a black person to an ape. She called Susan Rice ā€œa man with big swinging ape ballsā€. Sheā€™s well aware of the history of that slam - not above transphobia, either. Third, Roseanne has claimed various things about what she though Valerieā€™s background is. Sheā€™s clearly changing her story to try and cover her ass. She claimed that she thought Jarrett was Persian and Jewish. Then she claimed that she thought Jarrett was white. For the record, Valerie Jarrett was born in Iran to African-American parents. Her great-grandfather was the first African-American student at MIT. She was featured on the show, Finding Your Roots, and also has Native American and European ancestry. She is neither Persian nor Jewish, nor, to the sort of people who care about these things (ie - racists), white. Roseanne called a black woman, ā€œapeā€, and thereā€™s no reason to do that unless sheā€™s referring to the racist slur against black people, because newsflash - we all look like apes. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/273 "2018-05-31T19:16:46Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > You have 8 tentacles in your other life? Iā€™m thinking yet another incarnation of **Terrkrahoma**. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/274 "2018-05-31T19:21:24Z")
> [@Boacrow](#): > > Thatā€™s pretty fucking offensive. I think you should be fired from your job for being an offensive asshole. > > That said, if someone penalizes you for saying something, how is that not interfering? Personally, I really donā€™t care what she or anyone else said, including you (I was being facetious above). The simple fact of the matter is, unless someone takes action, word have no effect on my life at all. Say whatever you want. Iā€™ll still get up in the morning and my routine wonā€™t change in the least. I think if more people spoke their mind without fear of reprisal the world would be a better place. At least you would know where they stand and you could make a more informed decision about whether you want to associate with that person. If people are afraid to speak out for fear of being fired or whatever, you might be hanging out with some of these people and not know it. But I guess ignorance is bliss. > > So go ahead. Call me whatever your heart desires. Be as offensive as you can. To me itā€™s nothing more meaningful than a fly dying across town. I can make an informed judgement based on what I hear though. If I penalize people for saying stuff and they hold back because of it, Iā€™ve taken that away. Do what you want. I really donā€™t care. I just thought it was ironic that people use offensive language to complain about being offensive, thatā€™s all. Deliberate hypocrisy to get a rise out of people? _Boooooringggg_ troll is boring. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/275 "2018-05-31T19:23:42Z")
> [@Boacrow](#): > > So go ahead. Call me whatever your heart desires. Be as offensive as you can. To me itā€™s nothing more meaningful than a fly dying across town. Perhaps you and I define ā€˜offensiveā€™ differently. To me, if one is unaffected by it, if it is no more meaningful than a fly dying across town, it can hardly be _offensive_. For it to be offensive, you kinda have to be ā€¦ _offended_. Right? ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/276 "2018-05-31T19:46:53Z")
Whatā€™s the deal with alt-right snowflakes and the term ā€œvirtue signalling?ā€ Not much can penetrate their tiny brains, but every time they level that accusation they are, in fact, claiming superiority. They are signalling their virtue. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/277 "2018-05-31T19:57:00Z")
> [@Boacrow](#): > > Thatā€™s pretty fucking offensive. I think you should be fired from your job for being an offensive asshole. > > That said, if someone penalizes you for saying something, how is that not interfering? Personally, I really donā€™t care what she or anyone else said, including you (I was being facetious above). The simple fact of the matter is, unless someone takes action, word have no effect on my life at all. Say whatever you want. Iā€™ll still get up in the morning and my routine wonā€™t change in the least. I think if more people spoke their mind without fear of reprisal the world would be a better place. At least you would know where they stand and you could make a more informed decision about whether you want to associate with that person. If people are afraid to speak out for fear of being fired or whatever, you might be hanging out with some of these people and not know it. But I guess ignorance is bliss. > > So go ahead. Call me whatever your heart desires. Be as offensive as you can. To me itā€™s nothing more meaningful than a fly dying across town. I can make an informed judgement based on what I hear though. If I penalize people for saying stuff and they hold back because of it, Iā€™ve taken that away. Do what you want. I really donā€™t care. I just thought it was ironic that people use offensive language to complain about being offensive, thatā€™s all. Being denied the benefit of my attention is a penalty, no matter how you slice it. Enjoy your penalty! šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/278 "2018-05-31T19:58:57Z")
> [@Boacrow](#): > > I think if more people spoke their mind without fear of reprisal the world would be a better place. At least you would know where they stand and you could make a more informed decision about whether you want to associate with that person. If people are afraid to speak out for fear of being fired or whatever, you might be hanging out with some of these people and not know it. When ABC found out from her own words where Barr stands, didnā€™t ABC similarly have the right to decide not to associate with her? And doesnā€™t socially ostracizing a person who is a racist asshole or a sweary mary also constitute a ā€œreprisalā€? Which (non-governmental) parts of our society are you proposing should just tolerate anything and suck it up, and which parts are free to act on their knowledge of a personā€™s revealed character? ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/279 "2018-05-31T20:04:24Z")
> [@Boacrow](#): > > That said, if someone penalizes you for saying something, how is that not interfering? If I go up to my hypothetical African-American boss and say, ā€œHey you orangutan nigger shithead, this country was better when you were more likely to be dangling on a noose than in a voting booth,ā€ at what point does my bossā€™s right to free association become a factor? At what point does _he_ get to say, ā€œWell, I get to associate with whoever I want, and Iā€™d really rather _not_ associate with someone who believes that about meā€? ā€œYou get to say whatever offensive shit you want; I donā€™t get to say anything about itā€ is not a coherent speech norm. ā€œYou get to say whatever offensive shit you want; Iā€™m not allowed to let your speech have any effect on how I see you as a person or whether I want to spend time with you/employ you/give you moneyā€ is completely insane. Does any of this make sense to you? Now keep in mind that the head exec who canceled ā€œRoseanneā€ is black. Whoops. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/280 "2018-05-31T20:19:45Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > If I go up to my hypothetical African-American boss and sayā€¦ My (non-hypothetical, white, rich) boss said he would fire anyone making a racist remark. He warned us at an all-hands-on-deck meeting: "We have zero tolerance for sexist or racist comments. I do NOT care if you THINK itā€™s just humor. One strike and you. Are. Out. ā€œEven if I didnā€™t think it was evilā€¦ and immature, I might addā€¦ what if theres a 1% chance something like thatā€™ll slip out when talking to a client? Or a potential client? Which of course is what a stranger in a bar would be. I do not want a loose pistol like that associated with my company, even if theyā€™re doing incredible work. I can find a decent human being thatā€™ll do incredible work.ā€ ETA: just fyi, that was at a large ad agency, which are traditionally conservative and very privately-owned (by the opposite of snowflakes). So the black boss and ā€œpolitical correctnessā€ would probably have nothing to do with thisā€¦ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075.md?page=15)