# Stop claiming it was a joke, you piece of crap

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 29, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075 "2018-05-29T17:50:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/281 "2018-05-31T20:24:26Z")

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> [@Boacrow](#):
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> So go ahead. Call me whatever your heart desires. Be as offensive as you can. To me it’s nothing more meaningful than a fly dying across town. I can make an informed judgement based on what I hear though. If I penalize people for saying stuff and they hold back because of it, I’ve taken that away. Do what you want. I really don’t care. I just thought it was ironic that people use offensive language to complain about being offensive, that’s all.

I’m not going to call you any sort of name, but what I will do is point out that it has been demonstrated that you are factually incorrect as to the meaning of “freedom of speech”. Are you going to acknowledge your error, or are you going to ignore it and, most likely, repeat it at some later date?

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/282 "2018-05-31T20:37:55Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Are you going to acknowledge your error, or are you going to ignore it and, most likely, repeat it at some later date?

But isn’t that how this place works? I saw a link on TightieRightie.org that said “Want a message board where you can Fight for Your Own Ignorance? Head on over to SDMB, where they’ll keep beating their heads against the wall you’ve constructed. And all you have to do is resist being educated. You might think they’d give up trying to reason with you, but NO! Just keeping spouting your usual nonsense, it’ll drive them Smartypants Libtards crazy!”

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/283 "2018-05-31T20:42:23Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> Third, Roseanne has claimed various things about what she though Valerie’s background is. She’s clearly changing her story to try and cover her ass. She claimed that she thought Jarrett was Persian and Jewish. Then she claimed that she thought Jarrett was white.

She also just recently said, “I thought she was Saudi.”

The supposedly not-racist Roseanne just rewteeted an image of a sign saying “Make Racists Afraid Again” with the caption “Nope”.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/284 "2018-05-31T20:46:55Z")

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> [@anomalous1](#):
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> Bill Maher - Muslim Jokes; all being terrorists and rapists
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> George Lopez - White Jokes; racist, rich and stuck up
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> Steve Harvey - Asian Jokes; cheap and bad drivers
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> Roseanne Barr makes a Muslim joke that is **much milder** than other similar jokes that are accepted and says the woman who is not obvious in her black ancestry(i found that out here, I didn’t even know) has similarity to the female creature from Planet Of The Apes… Turn off the leftist conspiracy radar, it had nothing to do with her being part black.
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> What’s the only difference? She supports Trump.
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> Virtue signaling as far as the eyes can see and ears can hear. The joke was definitely poorly planned and could have been better but **yes it was an attempt at a joke** that failed. Sure it was obviously and definitely ABC’s right to cancel, but don’t even try to think they are doing it because of some moral/ethical reasoning. It is because they are afraid of the virtuous, holier than thou leftist contingent being easily offended and losing money/sponsors and viewers, nothing more. They were afraid of the backlash from the masses of butthurt people with too much misplaced guilt.
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> People really need to fucking get over themselves and the overinflated sense of moral worthiness to society.

Uh, you know that Bill Maher was once fired from ABC for a joke right? It kind of undermines your whole argument.

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**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/285 "2018-05-31T20:50:44Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> I’m not going to call you any sort of name, but what I will do is point out that it has been demonstrated that you are factually incorrect as to the meaning of “freedom of speech”. Are you going to acknowledge your error, or are you going to ignore it and, most likely, repeat it at some later date?

Why a later date, when there’s plenty of today left to repeat it? 😉

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/286 "2018-05-31T20:53:24Z")

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> [@anomalous1](#):
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> Bill Maher - Muslim Jokes; all being terrorists and rapists
> 
> George Lopez - White Jokes; racist, rich and stuck up
> 
> Steve Harvey - Asian Jokes; cheap and bad drivers
> 
> Roseanne Barr makes a Muslim joke that is **much milder** than other similar jokes that are accepted and says the woman who is not obvious in her black ancestry(i found that out here, I didn’t even know) has similarity to the female creature from Planet Of The Apes… Turn off the leftist conspiracy radar, it had nothing to do with her being part black.
> 
> What’s the only difference? She supports Trump.
> 
> Virtue signaling as far as the eyes can see and ears can hear. The joke was definitely poorly planned and could have been better but **yes it was an attempt at a joke** that failed. Sure it was obviously and definitely ABC’s right to cancel, but don’t even try to think they are doing it because of some moral/ethical reasoning. It is because they are afraid of the virtuous, holier than thou leftist contingent being easily offended and losing money/sponsors and viewers, nothing more. They were afraid of the backlash from the masses of butthurt people with too much misplaced guilt.
> 
> People really need to fucking get over themselves and the overinflated sense of moral worthiness to society.

You really are a sanctimonious snowflake.

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/287 "2018-05-31T21:02:13Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> Uh, you know that Bill Maher was once fired from ABC for a joke right? It kind of undermines your whole argument.

Nitpick: [It wasn’t a joke.](https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=102318&page=1) I agreed with him. He later apologized (sort of), saying he was speaking of the US defense policy in general and not troops on the ground.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/288 "2018-05-31T21:21:15Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> My (non-hypothetical, white, rich) boss said he would fire anyone making a racist remark.

Well, a lot of conservative bosses who didn’t give a shit in the past learned hard lessons that some of their clients actually did care if they or their people were racists.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/289 "2018-05-31T21:31:30Z")

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> [@HelenGawn](#):
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> Nitpick: [It wasn’t a joke.](https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=102318&page=1) I agreed with him. He later apologized (sort of), saying he was speaking of the US defense policy in general and not troops on the ground.

I wouldn’t have put it the way he did in public, and not expect to get some serious pushback against it, but yeah, what he said was more or less correct.

OTOH, ABC letting him go because of the outrage that it sparked was also their decision, and while I didn’t like it, I had full respect for their right to make it.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/290 "2018-05-31T21:34:40Z")

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> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#):
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> Which prompts the question- what standards Do Republicans adhere to anymore? …

Selfishness and greed, to varying degrees depending on the particular economic status of the Republican. I thought everyone knew that.  
Also, other deadly sins fit into the mix where specific ones don’t find a presence.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/291 "2018-05-31T22:34:28Z")

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Yeah, I agreed with him too, but he pissed of the righties and got fired.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/292 "2018-05-31T23:00:46Z")

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> [@Enginerd](#):
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> Maintaining power is the only good. They can forgive anything except a loss.

That is the point of political parties. I wouldn’t put anything past either party.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/293 "2018-05-31T23:03:26Z")

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\*“IT WAS A JOKE!” \*said every asshole who made an assholish comment and then got called for being an asshole.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/294 "2018-05-31T23:12:08Z")

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With the current climate towards free speech I don’t think progressives will be satisfied until comedians they disagree with get Charlie Hebdoed.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/295 "2018-05-31T23:17:44Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> With the current climate towards free speech I don’t think progressives will be satisfied until comedians they disagree with get Charlie Hebdoed.

I’m really curious, whose sock do you think **Boacrow** is?

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**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/296 "2018-05-31T23:29:31Z")

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> [@anomalous1](#):
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> Definition of “militia” from American Heritage Dictionary: \* An army composed of ordinary citizens rather than professional soldiers.\*

Ok, now look up the work “army.”

> [@anomalous1](#):
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> professional/organized

Those words are not synonyms.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/297 "2018-05-31T23:35:45Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> With the current climate towards free speech I don’t think progressives will be satisfied until comedians they disagree with get Charlie Hebdoed.

What a fucking stupid thing to say.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/298 "2018-05-31T23:46:13Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> \*“IT WAS A JOKE!” \*said every asshole who made an assholish comment and then got called for being an asshole.

It’s a joke. When you give me that look, it’s a _[joke](https://frinkiac.com/meme/S14E14/653528.jpg?b64lines=IEl0J3MgYSBqb2tlLiAKIFdoZW4geW91IGdpdmUgbWUgdGhhdCBsb29rLAogaXQncyBhIGpva2Uu)_.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/299 "2018-05-31T23:53:17Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> With the current climate towards free speech I don’t think progressives will be satisfied until comedians they disagree with get Charlie Hebdoed.

You truly are an embarrassment to the species.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2018, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/300 "2018-06-01T00:35:32Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> I’m white. And I gotta admit, sometimes, I don’t like white people.

True dat. We can be assholes. ☹

> [@Tim\_R.Mortiss](#):
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> For the life of me, I cannot see how the fuck you come to that conclusion based on my post. Please explain.

Because you are a noted asshole?

> [@Chimera](#):
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> 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in,  
> 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’  
> 37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? ght  
> 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you?  
> 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’  
> 40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

Yeah, but then he launches a tirade against goats. Or was it earlier? Doesn’t matter. I like goats. So does my pastor.

> [@octopus](#):
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> With the current climate towards free speech I don’t think progressives will be satisfied until comedians they disagree with get Charlie Hebdoed.

I thought we got rid of you.

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