# Stop claiming it was a joke, you piece of crap

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 29, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075 "2018-05-29T17:50:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2018, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/361 "2018-06-02T04:19:59Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> There is absolutely no way this is a true story. You are a lying racist troll.

And what part of his/her story seems false?

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2018, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/362 "2018-06-02T06:45:10Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> Not only is he a racist sock, but apparently his sister is an unrepentant whore.

Hey. I started this, so let me state that there is no evidence at all that his sister is a whore.  
He just thinks she is.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2018, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/363 "2018-06-02T08:37:10Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> ABC has every right to cancel the show; Barr is an entertainer and ABC depends upon her, in part, to present their face positively to the public.
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> So I fully support ABC’s decision.
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> Much like the NFL had similar rights to deal with Colin Kaepernick.

Your observations are obviously valid in a legal or business sense, though it’s surprising you felt no need to cite _Bozo the Clown vs Bedlam Hospital 319 U.S. 452_ or some such 😛

But many of us are humans, rather than lawyers, and not so eager to conflate Ms. Barr with Mr. Kaepernick. You were already our _Tu quoque_ whining champion, but I think you’ve outdone even yourself here!

_ **Mr. Kaepernick was awarded Amnesty International’s Ambassador of Conscience award for his principled position.** _ Your homework assignment is to Google and read Ms. Barr’s exact tweet and then to tell us what institution is likely to give her an award for the principles behind her tweet.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2018, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/364 "2018-06-02T08:37:51Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> And what part of his/her story seems false?

Ah, the Billy Boat Brigade arrives. Too bad.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2018, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/365 "2018-06-02T08:41:58Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Your observations are obviously valid in a legal or business sense, though it’s surprising you felt no need to cite _Bozo the Clown vs Bedlam Hospital 319 U.S. 452_ or some such 😛
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> But many of us are humans, rather than lawyers, and not so eager to conflate Ms. Barr with Mr. Kaepernick. You were already our _Tu quoque_ whining champion, but I think you’ve outdone even yourself here!
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> _ **Mr. Kaepernick was awarded Amnesty International’s Ambassador of Conscience award for his principled position.** _ Your homework assignment is to Google and read Ms. Barr’s exact tweet and then to tell us what institution is likely to give her an award for the principles behind her tweet.

And what does the NFL’s collective bargaining agreement have to say about what can get Kaepernick fired? How does that even remotely apply to getting a TV show canceled?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2018, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/366 "2018-06-02T11:48:10Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> And what part of his/her story seems false?

The fact you’re [del]leaping[/del] slithering to his defense.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2018, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/367 "2018-06-02T12:35:58Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> Hey. I started this, so let me state that there is no evidence at all that his sister is a whore.  
> He just thinks she is.

Well, that’s what she tells the family (she’s actually ‘Rachel from Card Services’).

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2018, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/368 "2018-06-02T13:31:54Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> Hey. I started this, so let me state that there is no evidence at all that his sister is a whore.  
> He just thinks she is.

Well if she’s taking money to sleep with him, she’s a whore.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2018, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/369 "2018-06-02T15:25:42Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> Not only is he a racist sock, but apparently his sister is an unrepentant whore.

I tried to get her to repent, but she wouldn’t give me my money back.

> [@septimus](#):
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> _ **Mr. Kaepernick was awarded Amnesty International’s Ambassador of Conscience award for his principled position.** _ Your homework assignment is to Google and read Ms. Barr’s exact tweet and then to tell us what institution is likely to give her an award for the principles behind her tweet.

I think that that sort of tweet wins you tickets to the next yiannopoulos show.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2018, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/370 "2018-06-02T16:59:14Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> The fact you’re [del]leaping[/del] slithering to his defense.

That makes no sense. I know it’s the Pit but you guys aren’t even trying.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/371 "2018-06-02T19:54:47Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> _ **Mr. Kaepernick was awarded Amnesty International’s Ambassador of Conscience award for his principled position.** _ Your homework assignment is to Google and read Ms. Barr’s exact tweet and then to tell us what institution is likely to give her an award for the principles behind her tweet.

Mr. Bricker belongs to the Republican party, the party Strom Thurmond and other paragons of equality ran to.  
You said institution, not respectable institution.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2018, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/372 "2018-06-02T21:16:56Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> And what part of his/her story seems false?

> [@running\_coach](#):
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> The fact you’re [del]leaping[/del] slithering to his defense.

That’s a relief. The idea of octopodes that can leap is too horrible to contemplate.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2018, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/373 "2018-06-03T01:58:59Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Roseanne’s toast, but it wouldn’t surprise me to see her get some sort of talk show on some alt-right platform at some point. People like Roseanne are never contrite about their bigotry, they’re just occasionally ‘sorry’ that it has consequences. But I guarantee she’s going to dig in even deeper now.

> [@Akaj](#):
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> It would shock me if this talk show weren’t already in the works. Hell, she’ll probably become a Fox News commentator. For Trump’s base, being fired for a racist tweet makes you a champion of anti-political-correctness.

For feces and laughter I googled “Roseanne - what now?” and didn’t see much in the way of…anything. [Fox](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fox-news-now-leading-resurrect-roseanne-campaign-134050317.html) is all jumping up and down about her, of course, but other than that, yeah, like **Akaj** , I would also be quite shocked that RB wouldn’t be, well, not on Fox and Friends, but her own Fox thing, or lining up some show along the lines of a Daily Show/Real Time format, (but with _maybe_ a different perspective).

Show them Hollywood/librul snowflakes.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2018, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/374 "2018-06-03T04:16:34Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> For feces and laughter I googled “Roseanne - what now?” and didn’t see much in the way of…anything. [Fox](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fox-news-now-leading-resurrect-roseanne-campaign-134050317.html) is all jumping up and down about her, of course, but other than that, yeah, like **Akaj** , I would also be quite shocked that RB wouldn’t be, well, not on Fox and Friends, but her own Fox thing, or lining up some show along the lines of a Daily Show/Real Time format, (but with _maybe_ a different perspective).
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> Show them Hollywood/librul snowflakes.

I’m sure such a show would be as hilarious as Mallard Fillmore, the comic strip that could not come up with even one George Bush joke for 8 years.  
Except, that is, when he said something intelligent about immigration.

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**Post date:** [June 3, 2018, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/375 "2018-06-03T07:15:25Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> …Fox and Friends…

After some research\* I see that it starts at 6 am, so actually Roseanne could kick things off with belting out the anthem, disappear for however long, randomly turn up later on, sort of crashing things - sometimes a bit dishevelled more on some days than on others - maybe clutching a bottle of Jack on holidays, calling Steve Doocy and Brian Kilmeade fruity snowflakes, and Ainsley Earhardt, either Legs or Sunshine, but still tow the alt-right party line just when she’s insulted her milksop co-horts to the point of saturation.

Or just give her a desk with a studio audience in front of her.  
Nickelback:p can be the house band, with Rachel Dolezal as co-host, or Kim Davis.

\*Um, no - not for the entire length of the time between this post and my previous.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/376 "2018-06-25T15:24:43Z")

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[Spin, spin, spin.](https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/tv/roseanne-barr-gives-tearful-interview-after-scandal-i-m-not-n886236)

> [@](#):
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> Barr claims she “never would have wittingly called any black person a monkey.”
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> “What can I do now except say of course, I’m not a racist, I’m an idiot,” she added.

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/377 "2018-06-25T15:33:45Z")

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She didn’t call Jarrett a monkey – she called her an ape. Totally different thing, right?:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/378 "2018-06-25T15:34:52Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> [Spin, spin, spin.](https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/tv/roseanne-barr-gives-tearful-interview-after-scandal-i-m-not-n886236) :rolleyes:

She can be both a racist and an idiot!

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**Author:** ![Dante](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dante/32/9673_2.png) [@Dante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/379 "2018-06-25T16:02:01Z")

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> [@wonky](#):
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> She can be both a racist and an idiot!

You kind of have to be.

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2018, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/380 "2018-06-25T16:26:50Z")

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By the way, Roseanne is not going to be hired by Fox News, or some other right-wing media enterprise to be named later. Not going to happen in a million years, for a couple of reasons.

One, Roseanne isn’t actually conservative. She’s crazy.

Two, Roseanne is crazy. Like, literally no-shit mental illness crazy. You can’t trust her to spout the party line. She’s got a long list of idiosyncratic hobby horses, and only a small fraction of them line up with the right wing media industrial complex.

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