# Stop claiming it was a joke, you piece of crap

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 29, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075 "2018-05-29T17:50:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/21 "2018-05-29T18:50:49Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I laughing harder at Roseanne now than I ever have before!

What I came here to say (although my comment included an “am”)

Never liked her, and she is so cooperative showing why.

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**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/22 "2018-05-29T18:52:40Z")

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> [@Crotalus](#):
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> Eleven-year-old Jewish Nazis are the worst.

Eleven-year-old Jewish _Illinois_ Nazis are the worst.

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**Author:** ![Karen\_Lingel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karen_lingel/32/18649_2.png) [@Karen\_Lingel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karen_Lingel)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/23 "2018-05-29T18:52:55Z")

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> [@Crotalus](#):
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> Eleven-year-old Jewish Nazis are the worst.

Dude, this made me laugh so hard I could not draw breath!

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/24 "2018-05-29T18:53:44Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Boy, nothing like throwing away millions of dollars because you’re too fucking stupid to not say something disgusting on Twitter.

Not to mention burning her fellow cast members/writers/producers/etcetera, presumably many/most/all of whom don’t agree with Roseanne but are now paying the financial price for her big mouth. What a fucking idiot.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/25 "2018-05-29T19:04:44Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> Not to mention burning her fellow cast members/writers/producers/etcetera, presumably many/most/all of whom don’t agree with Roseanne but are now paying the financial price for her big mouth. What a fucking idiot.

No kidding. Any show has a pretty decent amount of people depending on it to make a living, now they’re all paying the price for Roseanne’s bigotry.

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**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/26 "2018-05-29T19:04:50Z")

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Good for ABC for doing the right thing. That bitch needs to go back to obscurity.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/27 "2018-05-29T19:07:40Z")

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And how sad that we all have to be relieved and grateful that ABC _did_ the right thing.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/28 "2018-05-29T19:11:25Z")

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They’d have done the right thing by not putting her back on the air at all. This decision was pretty much forced upon them, not a matter of moral courage.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/29 "2018-05-29T19:13:09Z")

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Her talent agent just fired her, too.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/30 "2018-05-29T19:15:54Z")

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So when will Trump start ABC bashing? I’ll say 30 minutes.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Smashy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mr\_Smashy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Smashy)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/31 "2018-05-29T19:17:03Z")

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ABC is going to lose a lot of money and ratings over firing her, but it’s the right thing to do. This reminds me of the NFL situation, when the players are doing something bad for business, and when a majority of Americans think it’s never appropriate to disrespect the anthem, then they have the right to act to save their businesses as well.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/32 "2018-05-29T19:21:09Z")

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Majority??

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/33 "2018-05-29T19:24:02Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> They’d have done the right thing by not putting her back on the air at all.

Eh, I can’t really agree with that. Roseanne wasn’t the instigator for re-starting the show, the presumably pretty liberal Sara Gilbert was. And though I haven’t watched it, by all accounts it wasn’t a full-on political bash-fest and covered multiple bases. Nothing wrong with that. Considering the high ratings, it was apparently a smart financial move by ABC to give it a try( quality aside ).

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> This decision was pretty much forced upon them, not a matter of moral courage.

But I agree with this, more or less. It was the right move by ABC, but I have a feeling it was already falling apart on them and they knew it. One of the actors has already tweeted that she was about to quit before she heard it was cancelled.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Smashy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mr\_Smashy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Smashy)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/34 "2018-05-29T19:24:40Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> Majority??

> **[Poll: 53 percent of Americans say it’s ‘never appropriate’ to kneel during...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2018/05/23/poll-53-percent-of-americans-say-its-never-appropriate-to-kneel-during-the-national-anthem/?utm_term=.62db98116eda)**
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> Player protests draw persistently passionate reactions from Americans

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/35 "2018-05-29T19:24:57Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I laughing harder at Roseanne now than I ever have before!

Roseanne reaps what she sows, AND you laugh without mentioning a quarry? I think our country has finally rounded the bend, y’all!

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/36 "2018-05-29T19:30:56Z")

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There indeed is a bad joke here. It’s Roseanne herself since, oh, [around 25 July 1990](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2015/07/23/roseanne-on-the-day-she-shrieked-the-star-spangled-banner-grabbed-her-crotch-and-earned-a-rebuke-from-president-bush/?utm_term=.0ead0ea7df7c).

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/37 "2018-05-29T19:37:47Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> No kidding. Any show has a pretty decent amount of people depending on it to make a living, now they’re all paying the price for Roseanne’s bigotry.

However, there is now a slot for another show, with its own cast and staff and suppliers, who now all have new gigs. I don’t think Wanda Sykes is going to be hurting for work, somehow.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/38 "2018-05-29T19:44:48Z")

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You ever get part way through posting here, or perhaps a response to a Facebook post and think: “Nah. I probably shouldn’t say that”? So, you delete it and move on with your life.

Now, imagine how fucking racist and bigoted you would have to be to actually compose what Roseanne did, and then hit “post.” (Or whatever you hit on Twitter.)

A cross between the Muslim Brotherhood and Planet of the Apes? That’s some seriously fucked-up bigotry.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/39 "2018-05-29T19:47:39Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Her talent agent just fired her, too.

Talent agent?

Oh, you mean “talent” agent.

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**Author:** ![Scoobysnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@Scoobysnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scoobysnax)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/40 "2018-05-29T19:47:42Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> However, there is now a slot for another show, with its own cast and staff and suppliers, who now all have new gigs. I don’t think Wanda Sykes is going to be hurting for work, somehow.

As soon as I heard about the cancellation I felt bad for the actors that played DJ and first Becky. Neither one has been especially busy over the past decade.

I don’t know how it works in the industry, but I would hope that the majority of the camera, lighting, sound, editing, etc. workers will be working on a pilot for next season.

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