# Stop claiming it was a joke, you piece of crap **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075 "2018-05-29T17:50:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/41 "2018-05-29T19:56:19Z")
ABC has every right to cancel the show; Barr is an entertainer and ABC depends upon her, in part, to present their face positively to the public. So I fully support ABC’s decision. Much like the NFL had similar rights to deal with Colin Kaepernick. ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/42 "2018-05-29T20:11:28Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > ABC has every right to cancel the show; Barr is an entertainer and ABC depends upon her, in part, to present their face positively to the public. > > So I fully support ABC’s decision. > > Much like the NFL had similar rights to deal with Colin Kaepernick. Exactly. Just like calling black people monkeys is morally equivalent to protesting police violence against them. ---
**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/43 "2018-05-29T20:12:22Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > ABC has every right to cancel the show; Barr is an entertainer and ABC depends upon her, in part, to present their face positively to the public. > > So I fully support ABC’s decision. > > Much like the NFL had similar rights to deal with Colin Kaepernick. Of course private organizations can choose who they do business with, but don’t pretend like those are equivalent situations. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/44 "2018-05-29T20:20:54Z")
> [@PigArcher](#): > > Of course private organizations can choose who they do business with, but don’t pretend like those are equivalent situations. Of course they are. Everything a private organization legally does is morally and ethically equivalent, and everyone should have the exact same reaction, thoughts, and feelings regarding those actions. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/45 "2018-05-29T20:24:51Z")
Does anybody have any idea where the recent Valerie Jarrett hate originated from? Seems Roseanne Barr and **Silver Lining** get their misinformation from the same source. > [@Nuclear deal with Iran](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-deal-with-iran/725128/1333): > > Pay no attention to the fact that Obama’s closest advisor was some obscure woman born in Iran…one of the very few who ever travel to his living quarters. The same President gave Pakistan over a billion in aid, and we pretty much knew they were harboring Bin Laden. > [@Nuclear deal with Iran](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nuclear-deal-with-iran/725128/1342): > > I was talking about Valerie Jarrett. Like I said born in Iran. The one allowed in his living quarters. Jarrett had a staff of approximately three dozen and received full-time secret service protection.[25] Jarrett’s role as both a friend of the Obamas and as senior advisor in the White House was controversial: in his memoirs Robert M. Gates, former secretary of defense, discussed his objection to her involvement in foreign security affairs;[26] David Axelrod reported in his memoirs about Rahm Emanuel’s attempts to have her selected as Obama’s replacement in the senate, due to concerns about the difficulty in working with a family friend in a major policy role.[27] Nice try. > > [Valerie Jarrett - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Jarrett) ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/46 "2018-05-29T20:34:51Z")
I thought of that poster too when I read that. Must be on some sort of [liberalsarethedevil.com](http://liberalsarethedevil.com) site or something. Probably start seeing it on my Facebook feed soon. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/47 "2018-05-29T20:41:52Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Rosanne Barr makes a racist remark about a former Obama administration woman on Twitter and is called out for it. > > She apologizes for her bad ‘joke’. > > Oh fuck no. Racists and Bullies make offensive, insulting, sexist and/or racist cracks and then immediately fall back into 'it was just a joke, relax!" No. It wasn’t a joke, it was a deliberate statement that reflects who you are and was meant to do harm. FUCK you and your ‘joke’. > > Wanda Sykes has already quit the show, but ABC has so far been totally silent. :mad: 😕 Linky? ---
**Author:** ![Whiskey\_Dickens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9fc348/32.png) [@Whiskey\_Dickens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whiskey_Dickens)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/48 "2018-05-29T20:42:20Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > ABC has every right to cancel the show; Barr is an entertainer and ABC depends upon her, in part, to present their face positively to the public. > > So I fully support ABC’s decision. > > Much like the NFL had similar rights to deal with Colin Kaepernick. Aw, Bricker. Goddamn it. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/49 "2018-05-29T20:44:13Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > 😕 > > Linky? Pretty much every news website at this point. Sorry for the lack of original links, I didn’t want any stupid arguments over which website people would accept as an initial source. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/50 "2018-05-29T20:49:42Z")
Roseanne Barr. The perfect embodiment of a Trump supporter. Racist, big fucking mouth, overly-emotional and completely uninformed. This is your America, republicans. Ain’t it great? ---
**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/51 "2018-05-29T20:50:30Z")
They should have killed her off like they did Clayne Crawford and recast the role. Have Dan remarry. Call the show “The Connor Family.” ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/52 "2018-05-29T20:51:22Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > What I came here to say (although my comment included an “am”) :smack: I didn’t notice that until about 20 minutes after I posted; nothing I can do about it now. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Smashy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mr\_Smashy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Smashy)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/53 "2018-05-29T20:52:26Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > ABC has every right to cancel the show; Barr is an entertainer and ABC depends upon her, in part, to present their face positively to the public. > > So I fully support ABC’s decision. > > Much like the NFL had similar rights to deal with Colin Kaepernick. Exactly. There’s little doubt that the NFL ratings, down 9% this past year and 8% the year before that, are at least somewhat connected to the anthem disrespect. There are enough youtube videos out there showing people burning their jerseys and such to ignore that. And Rosanne was the #2 rated show, according to Nielsen, so this would cost them money. Private industry has the right to protect their business. ---
**Author:** ![Doyle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doyle/32/439_2.png) [@Doyle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doyle)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/54 "2018-05-29T20:54:32Z")
She’s been all over the board. From Green Party presidential candidate in 2012 to Trump supporter in 2016. Obviously, she’s unbalanced. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/55 "2018-05-29T20:55:26Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > ABC has every right to cancel the show; Barr is an entertainer and ABC depends upon her, in part, to present their face positively to the public. > > So I fully support ABC’s decision. > > Much like the NFL had similar rights to deal with Colin Kaepernick. Bzzzt! Foul on the play. Alt-right tactic. You can’t win on this topic, so you tried to redirect it to another topic to get the liberals focused on that. I’m on mobile, so I won’t link which video covers this tactic, but I will point out how Bricker is dishonest again, and discourage people from taking the bait. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/56 "2018-05-29T20:56:39Z")
> [@Mr\_Smashy](#): > > Exactly. There’s little doubt that the NFL ratings, down 9% this past year and 8% the year before that, are at least somewhat connected to the anthem disrespect. There are enough youtube videos out there showing people burning their jerseys and such to ignore that. How many people aren’t watching because “fuck the NFL”? I know I’m one of them. ETA: I mean, technically, I’m not watching for reasons connected to the anthem disrespect, but I’m gonna bet my reasons are different than the reasons you thought you were citing when you wrote your post. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Smashy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mr\_Smashy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Smashy)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/57 "2018-05-29T20:57:03Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Bzzzt! Foul on the play. Alt-right tactic. You can’t win on this topic, so you tried to redirect it to another topic to get the liberals focused on that. I’m on mobile, so I won’t link which video covers this tactic, but I will point out how Bricker is dishonest again, and discourage people from taking the bait. How is this dishonest? It’s not an exact analogy I admit, but it’s private businesses making a decision so they don’t lose money, and in both cases someone did something that offends a sizable portion of the country. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/58 "2018-05-29T20:59:41Z")
> [@Mr\_Smashy](#): > > How is this dishonest? It’s not an exact analogy I admit, but it’s private businesses making a decision so they don’t lose money, and in both cases someone did something that offends a sizable portion of the country. Sorry; not gonna take your bait to switch the topic either. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Smashy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mr\_Smashy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Smashy)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/59 "2018-05-29T20:59:45Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > How many people aren’t watching because “fuck the NFL”? I know I’m one of them. > > ETA: I mean, technically, I’m not watching for reasons connected to the anthem disrespect, but I’m gonna bet my reasons are different than the reasons you thought you were citing when you wrote your post. I’m saying that a lot of people are not watching NFL because of the kneeling. You’d have to be insane to deny that. Most Americans don’t kinder to that kind of disrespect. > **[Poll: 53 percent of Americans say it’s ‘never appropriate’ to kneel during...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2018/05/23/poll-53-percent-of-americans-say-its-never-appropriate-to-kneel-during-the-national-anthem/?noredirect=on)** > > Player protests draw persistently passionate reactions from Americans ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Smashy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mr\_Smashy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Smashy)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/60 "2018-05-29T21:00:48Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Sorry; not gonna take your bait to switch the topic either. Same topic, but OK. You don’t have an answer. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075.md?page=4)