# Stop claiming it was a joke, you piece of crap

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**Created:** [May 29, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075 "2018-05-29T17:50:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/61 "2018-05-29T21:03:27Z")

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Just a reminder that the topic of this thread is Roseanne and how jokes are not an excuse to be racist. It is not about the NFL situation which has another thread.

Be wary of those who try to change the topic.

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**Author:** ![Doyle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doyle/32/439_2.png) [@Doyle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doyle)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/62 "2018-05-29T21:03:49Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Roseanne Barr. The perfect embodiment of a Trump supporter. Racist, big fucking mouth, overly-emotional and completely uninformed.
> 
> This is your America, republicans. Ain’t it great?

She was a presidential candidate for Green Party in 2012. She’s a nut.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/63 "2018-05-29T21:05:10Z")

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> [@Mr\_Smashy](#):
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> Same topic, but OK. You don’t have an answer.

No, not the same topic. The NFL isn’t Roseanne.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/64 "2018-05-29T21:06:41Z")

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SB, you’re actually allowing Mr Smashy to change the topic.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/65 "2018-05-29T21:07:04Z")

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This is not a thread about the NFL. There are several others on this board for that.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/66 "2018-05-29T21:13:40Z")

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> [@Mr\_Smashy](#):
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> Exactly. There’s little doubt…

Because doubting the talking points leads to thinking, and ghod knows what _that_ might lead you to do next!

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/67 "2018-05-29T21:15:49Z")

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Well, you have to remember that 100 is the _ **average** _ IQ, and many people aren’t capable of understanding complex issues beyond the talking points they’re offered.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/68 "2018-05-29T21:17:31Z")

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Roseanne is a racist fuck, and it’s nice to see a racist fuck have to pay. Tough call: Too bad she dragged so many down with her racist ass, or too bad that so many had depended on her racist ass.  
I am so sick and tired of racist fucks comparing black people to apes, and feeling like that’s something they shouldn’t fear. Fuck you, racists.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/69 "2018-05-29T21:18:17Z")

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At least she’s got her singing career to fall back on.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/70 "2018-05-29T21:22:11Z")

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> [@Projammer](#):
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> At least she’s got her singing career to fall back on.

_That_ is disrespect for the anthem.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Smashy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mr\_Smashy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Smashy)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/71 "2018-05-29T21:22:34Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> No, not the same topic. The NFL isn’t Roseanne.

No, the NFL isn’t Rosanne. But the NFL and ABC are businesses, who are taking actions to prevent their employees from hurting sales.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/72 "2018-05-29T21:22:54Z")

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She’s estimated to have a net worth of @ $80 million. She doesn’t need to work, she just wants attention.

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/73 "2018-05-29T21:27:40Z")

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How truly tone def are you, to make such remarks, when you have a head writer who’s not white ?

Totally deserves this in my opinion. And good on Wanda Sykes for walking away!

Proof that when they say, ‘we don’t want political correctness’, what they _really_ mean is, we still want it to be ok to drop racist, misogynistic, and homophobic slurs at will!

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/74 "2018-05-29T21:34:29Z")

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> [@Mr\_Smashy](#):
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> I’m saying that a lot of people are not watching NFL because of the kneeling. You’d have to be insane to deny that.
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> Most Americans don’t kinder to that kind of disrespect.
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> [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2018/05/23/poll-53-percent-of-americans-say-its-never-appropriate-to-kneel-during-the-national-anthem/?noredirect=on](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2018/05/23/poll-53-percent-of-americans-say-its-never-appropriate-to-kneel-during-the-national-anthem/?noredirect=on)

I know conservative old guys in my office who’ve stopped watching the NFL due to the kneeling (so they say, anyway). I’m sure this does affect their bottom line. But the NFL chose to include overtly patriotic and political rituals in their games, and thus _any_ decision they make on this is likely to piss off some significant number of fans. That doesn’t make it right, IMO, to purposefully restrict silent and peaceful protests that are meant to call attention to violent injustice in our society.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/75 "2018-05-29T21:39:32Z")

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The joke wasn’t even funny. If you’re gonna tell a racist joke that winds up costing a lot of people their jobs, it better be so good it makes Martin Luther King Jr.'s corpse laugh.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/76 "2018-05-29T21:50:15Z")

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To be clear, the tweets in question were

> [@](#):
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> Muslim brotherhood & planet of the apes had a baby=vj.

and

> [@](#):
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> By the way, George Soros is a nazi who turned in his fellow Jews 2 be murdered in German concentration camps & stole their wealth-were you aware of that? But, we all make mistakes, right Chelsea?

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/77 "2018-05-29T21:50:32Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> ABC has every right to cancel the show; Barr is an entertainer and ABC depends upon her, in part, to present their face positively to the public.
> 
> So I fully support ABC’s decision.
> 
> Much like the NFL had similar rights to deal with Colin Kaepernick.

Sure, protesting police violence against minorities is EXACTLY like using your fame to slur both Muslims and blacks, you stupid piece of shit.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/78 "2018-05-29T21:51:35Z")

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The delicious irony is that the President of ABC is a black woman. Really, really bright move there, Roseanne. You thought that would slide past your boss?

Oh, and it seems that the woman who played the 18 year old granddaughter had already called her agent to quit the series when the news came out that it was cancelled. Good for her.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/79 "2018-05-29T21:53:06Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> ABC has every right to cancel the show; Barr is an entertainer and ABC depends upon her, in part, to present their face positively to the public.
> 
> So I fully support ABC’s decision.
> 
> Much like the NFL had similar rights to deal with Colin Kaepernick.

And with that, any remaining respect I had for you just went out the window.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/80 "2018-05-29T21:53:47Z")

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> [@](#):
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> By the way, George Soros is a nazi who turned in his fellow Jews 2 be murdered in German concentration camps & stole their wealth-were you aware of that? But, we all make mistakes, right Chelsea?

Earlier in this thread;

> [@Chimera](#):
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> Sure, sure he did. :rolleyes: He was all of 15 years old in 1945. His family changed their name from a German-Jewish name to Soros, a Hungarian name (since they lived in Hungary) in 1936. They got Christian IDs to hide from German deportation to the death camps in 1944 when the Germans occupied Hungary.

Not shooting on you, Chronos, just quoting together to make the point to any other idiot who believes the first part.

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