# Stop claiming it was a joke, you piece of crap

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 29, 2018, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075 "2018-05-29T17:50:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/81 "2018-05-29T21:54:13Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> And with that, any remaining respect I had for you just went out the window.

Remaining? You’re an indulgent one, you are.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/82 "2018-05-29T21:55:57Z")

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I’ve had no use for her ever since she made probably-false accusations that her father molested her. There are too many families where that IS true, and what she did was beyond insulting to them.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/83 "2018-05-29T21:56:10Z")

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> [@Sicks\_Ate](#):
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> Remaining? You’re an indulgent one, you are.

I am. It’s both a quality I like about myself and am frustrated about myself.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/84 "2018-05-29T21:56:46Z")

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I’m gonna flip a coin I think and try and bet on which direction this thread continues- OP, or reactions to Bricker deflection. I would say that I’m counting on you, posting contributors, but I’ve already stated that I was going to flip a coin.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/85 "2018-05-29T22:01:25Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> SB, you’re actually allowing Mr Smashy to change the topic.

Shut up, **BigTard**.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/86 "2018-05-29T22:01:46Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> _That_ is disrespect for the anthem.

I thought about linking it in my post, but I can’t think of anyone on here that I dislike that much.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/87 "2018-05-29T22:02:39Z")

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Nah, many of of us have already learned that Bricker is a disingenuous piece of shit. He’d rather try to drag an argument into bullshit and diversion than risk a genuine discussion.

[Roseanne and the high cost of embracing crazyness](https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/roseanne-barr-fired-show-canceled/). A National Review (Conservative Republican) article.

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/88 "2018-05-29T22:04:29Z")

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I admit that I don’t pay much attention to far right loons, but why the attention on Valerie Jarrett in the first place? Is it just nutjob conspiracy bullshit?

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/89 "2018-05-29T22:05:23Z")

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> [@Mr\_Smashy](#):
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> No, the NFL isn’t Rosanne. But the NFL and ABC are businesses, who are taking actions to prevent their employees from hurting sales.

One for blatant racism, the other for protesting the same. Totally the same.  
Glad to see the stupid came through for Roseanne, yet again.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/90 "2018-05-29T22:06:10Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> She’s estimated to have a net worth of @ $80 million. She doesn’t need to work, she just wants attention.

If she gives me $20 million, I’ll follow her around all day and point her out to people.

Or, you know, pay someone a reasonable salary to do it for me…

ETA btw, Sykes says she was a production consultant, not head writer.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/91 "2018-05-29T22:15:21Z")

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> [@Dag\_Otto](#):
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> I admit that I don’t pay much attention to far right loons, but why the attention on Valerie Jarrett in the first place? Is it just nutjob conspiracy bullshit?

Yes.

Old friend of the Obamas who was a private advisor to them in the White House. Plenty of articles asking what she did there and making up shit to attack her with.

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**Author:** ![Jennshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Jennshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennshark)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/92 "2018-05-29T22:24:17Z")

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I swear I spend far more time crafting and editing the “special instructions” for my Grub Hub orders than a good number of politicians, actors, and other public people do with Tweets, texts, and other electronic media that can be read by millions of people.

In the Good Olde Days one could (sometimes) plausibly deny having said something in a meeting or to a reporter. Now Anthony Weiner’s dick pics and Roseanne’s tweet equating Af-Americans to apes belong to the ages (as do my elegant requests for a side of bleu cheese dressing and extra napkins).

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/93 "2018-05-29T22:39:48Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> The joke wasn’t even funny. If you’re gonna tell a racist joke that winds up costing a lot of people their jobs, it better be so good it makes Martin Luther King Jr.'s corpse laugh.

And make the joke about someone who is actually relevant and well-known. As it stands, it’s clear that Barr was just hankering to pull out this shitty “wit” for a while and found a suitable mark in Jarrett. The only people who even remember who this woman is are Obama bigots.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/94 "2018-05-29T22:41:26Z")

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Heh, some freeper posted that Roseane can’t be a racist, because she has a gay daughter\* and a black granddaughter… appearing on her show.

That is even more sad than the old “some of my best friends are black” excuse, that looks like ‘some of the actors I have in the TV show, who play as my relatives, are gay or black’.

- This looks to me like a very old cartoon where Santa Claus is defending himself in an interview with ACLU lawyers and he says: “Please, I continue to look to get minorities employed, but at least many of the elves are gay!”

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/95 "2018-05-29T22:47:15Z")

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> [@Projammer](#):
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> At least she’s got her singing career to fall back on.

For those of you under the age of 40 or so, here it is. Listen at your own risk.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ls1YVhcLD2c/hqdefault.jpg "Rosanne Singing National Anthem") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls1YVhcLD2c)

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/96 "2018-05-29T22:50:51Z")

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> [@Chisquirrel](#):
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> One for blatant racism, the other for protesting the same. Totally the same.  
> Glad to see the stupid came through for Roseanne, yet again.

Furthermore, the goddamn NFL doesn’t own the national anthem, nor are they required to play it before games. And if Americans are supposedly free, then they can do whatever the fuck they want during it. I can stand on my head and play a kazoo with my butthole, because freedom. If Colin Kaepernick wants to kneel, then freedom. If Kaepernick decided to kneel when it was fourth and goal, that would be the NFL’s business, but it ain’t so they should all just shut the fuck up.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/97 "2018-05-29T23:00:18Z")

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Anyone know if she was stone cold sober when she tweeted?

If so, then fuuuuuck.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/98 "2018-05-29T23:06:14Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Nah, many of of us have already learned that Bricker is a disingenuous piece of shit. He’d rather try to drag an argument into bullshit and diversion than risk a genuine discussion.
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> [Roseanne and the high cost of embracing crazyness](https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/roseanne-barr-fired-show-canceled/). A National Review (Conservative Republican) article.

Wow. This was succinctly put:

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> Sometimes, a story fits no one’s political narrative cleanly. Sometimes, the story is the confusion and brokenness of our times. That’s the story of Roseanne, the populist, socialist, Green party, Trump-supporting conspiracy theorist who has now wasted what should be her last shot at relevance.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/99 "2018-05-29T23:07:24Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> And with that, any remaining respect I had for you just went out the window.

And I bet it was a small window.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-claiming-it-was-a-joke-you-piece-of-crap/815075/100 "2018-05-29T23:13:14Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> And I bet it was a small window.

[Quarter glass.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarter_glass)

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