# Stop embarrassing us! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 13, 2010, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-embarrassing-us/550124 "2010-08-13T04:09:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-embarrassing-us/550124/21 "2010-08-13T15:31:41Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > I have relatives all over the Carolinas. Loons, every one of them. Going back 20 generations or more. > > **Zsofia** , if I were you I’d be more concerned about what you people do to BBQ than I would be about some chickens mixing it up. Oh, shit, son. It’s on now. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-embarrassing-us/550124/22 "2010-08-13T15:43:33Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > I’m a little confused. Are your two cousins ALSO your brother and sister? No, they’re both my cousins. They’re siblings to each other…see…and there goes the joke. Dammit. Also they don’t actually exist. I mean, I do have family down there, but not cousins. I started writing about my real family, then thought up the cousin incest joke and went in that direction. And now it’s all just deflated and died and is lying flopping at my feet. Probably because of inbreeding. ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-embarrassing-us/550124/23 "2010-08-13T15:51:31Z")
Mr. Neville is from North Carolina, and he has told me all about South Carolinians. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-embarrassing-us/550124/24 "2010-08-13T16:01:41Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > Goddamn it! Look, I know South Carolina isn’t populated solely by porch-dwelling banjo players of questionable genetic diversity. Some of _you_ know that. But other people don’t know that, and it’s unfair but we have to be extra careful about how we present ourselves, okay? Like women who are commercial fishermen and FBI agents and roughnecks - we have to be twice as good to have half a chance. Okay? We’re in this shit together. A good place to start is to stop electing people that reinforce the stereotypes. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-embarrassing-us/550124/25 "2010-08-13T16:09:22Z")
Ah, yes, my beloved (and not so much beloved) home state. As someone stated above - loons, the lot of them. There’s something seriously wrong in the water down there. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-embarrassing-us/550124/26 "2010-08-13T16:21:11Z")
In my neck of the woods they yank terrified chickens out of their crammed coops in the middle of the night, then jam them into tight metal cages where they then take the last ride of their life to the processing plant, where they are killed and eviscerated, pissing and shitting themselves in terror all the way. How much worse, ethically, is that than letting them battle it out? Is the joy you get from your roasted breast of chicken on a superior plane than the pride of a prize fighting chicken’s owner at the success of his bird? ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-embarrassing-us/550124/27 "2010-08-13T16:30:26Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > > [@silenus](#): > > > > I have relatives all over the Carolinas. Loons, every one of them. Going back 20 generations or more. > > > > **Zsofia** , if I were you I’d be more concerned about what you people do to BBQ than I would be about some chickens mixing it up. > > Oh, shit, son. It’s on now. Heh. One reason South Carolina _is_ on my must-visit list (I’ve driven through it, but never really got a chance to look around) is for the barbecue and mustard-based sauce. Actually, come to think of it, that may be the only reason. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-embarrassing-us/550124/28 "2010-08-13T16:54:14Z")
The only reason to visit SC is [South of the Border](http://www.thesouthoftheborder.com/)! So gloriously, unabashedly, freakily tacky it’s unreal. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-embarrassing-us/550124/29 "2010-08-13T17:08:17Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > The only reason to visit SC is [South of the Border](http://www.thesouthoftheborder.com/)! So gloriously, unabashedly, freakily tacky it’s unreal. Whoa. Still, mustard+pork=yum. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-embarrassing-us/550124/30 "2010-08-13T17:38:55Z")
> [@astro](#): > > In my neck of the woods they yank terrified chickens out of their crammed coops in the middle of the night, then jam them into tight metal cages where they then take the last ride of their life to the processing plant, where they are killed and eviscerated, pissing and shitting themselves in terror all the way. > > How much worse, ethically, is that than letting them battle it out? Is the joy you get from your roasted breast of chicken on a superior plane than the pride of a prize fighting chicken’s owner at the success of his bird? Well, yes. Yes, it is. It’s like how putting my dog to sleep wasn’t quite the same thing as a dog fight. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-embarrassing-us/550124/31 "2010-08-13T17:58:35Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > The only reason to visit SC is [South of the Border](http://www.thesouthoftheborder.com/)! So gloriously, unabashedly, freakily tacky it’s unreal. Been there. I’m in complete agreement, with the reservation that there is one other reason to visit SC: [Charleston.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charleston,_South_Carolina) Very charming old city, rich in history, lots of wonderful colonial architecture – much like Savannah, Georgia. Try the she-crab soup (a crab bisque with roe). ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-embarrassing-us/550124/32 "2010-08-13T18:07:02Z")
I was down there about 20 years ago, and it seemed as if the restaurants had yet to discover butter. Every place we went, they had this horrendous shit called _Shedd’s Spread_ on the table. Not only did its taste bear no resemblence to butter – it didn’t melt. Put it on toast or pancakes and it just sat there. NASA could probably use it to patch holes in the heat shield. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-embarrassing-us/550124/33 "2010-08-13T18:57:43Z")
Gotta love S.C. politics. Republcan Nikki Haley runs for governor and a fellow republican calls her a [“raghead”](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikki_Haley#Racial_commentary_against_Haley) and two others [claim](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikki_Haley#Allegations_of_affairs) to have slept with her. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-embarrassing-us/550124/34 "2010-08-13T18:59:26Z")
As a recovering Texan, I am personally grateful to the entire state of South Carolina for taking some of batshit rap. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-embarrassing-us/550124/35 "2010-08-13T19:00:49Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > I was down there about 20 years ago, and it seemed as if the restaurants had yet to discover butter. Every place we went, they had this horrendous shit called _Shedd’s Spread_ on the table. Not only did its taste bear no resemblence to butter – it didn’t melt. Put it on toast or pancakes and it just sat there. NASA could probably use it to patch holes in the heat shield. That’s the same thing as Country Crock, right? I don’t recall it not being not melty at all. It’s like another version of “I Can’t Believe It’s Not Butter.” We used to have it around the house here when I was growing up here, too. Better than margarine, not better than butter. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-embarrassing-us/550124/36 "2010-08-13T21:46:10Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > Like women who are commercial fishermen and FBI agents and roughnecks - we have to be twice as good to have half a chance. Ooh, it’s like rain on my wedding day. In a post excoriating people for reinforcing a stereotype, you reinforce a stereotype. Maybe that was supposed to be some meat thing, an object lesson or something. But I don’t see it. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-embarrassing-us/550124/37 "2010-08-13T21:55:47Z")
**Zsofia** –here in Dogpatch, TN, we have near riots going on, over the peaceful local Muslims building a mosque. The locals _ **cannot** _ grasp that Moslem does not equal terrorist.:smack: Since chickens eventually wind up dead, & fried, anyway, perhaps you should count yourself relatively lucky. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-embarrassing-us/550124/38 "2010-08-13T22:07:21Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > > [@Zsofia](#): > > > > Like women who are commercial fishermen and FBI agents and roughnecks - we have to be twice as good to have half a chance. > > Ooh, it’s like rain on my wedding day. In a post excoriating people for reinforcing a stereotype, you reinforce a stereotype. Maybe that was supposed to be some meat thing, an object lesson or something. But I don’t see it. The OP is embarrassed because South Carolina is filled with people like _you._ It’s like a black fly in your chardonnay. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-embarrassing-us/550124/39 "2010-08-13T22:09:55Z")
Not to worry. I still have the same respect for your state that I ever had…or ever will. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-embarrassing-us/550124/40 "2010-08-13T22:18:04Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > > [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > > > And all in one convenient location! > > Yes - you’ve got to love how the cheap liquor store shares the parking lot with the giant firework store. Do they also cell cigars and cigarettes like in northern Indiana? I’ve been waiting for the inevitable firestorm for years, with smore supplies. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-embarrassing-us/550124.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-embarrassing-us/550124.md?page=3)