# Stop giving Bannon so much credit.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 24, 2017, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-giving-bannon-so-much-credit/780625 "2017-02-24T13:23:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-giving-bannon-so-much-credit/780625/21 "2017-09-12T00:53:33Z")

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Nope. Still dumbest.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2017, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-giving-bannon-so-much-credit/780625/22 "2017-09-12T01:55:53Z")

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Praising (Palin) with faint…_ **DAMN** _!

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-giving-bannon-so-much-credit/780625/23 "2017-12-13T13:54:36Z")

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I’d just like to take this opportunity to point out (again) that Bannon, isn’t so much the dark prince of politics as he a dark shit stain on its underwear.

Fuck you, Bannon, you loathsome drunken troll. [Screw you and the horse your child molesting candidate rode in on.](http://thehill.com/homenews/media/364622-ny-daily-news-hits-moore-screw-you-and-horse-you-rode-in-on)

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**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-giving-bannon-so-much-credit/780625/24 "2017-12-13T14:49:54Z")

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Amen. Last night was a small beacon of hope for the 2018 elections.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-giving-bannon-so-much-credit/780625/25 "2017-12-13T15:03:37Z")

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Of course there are stupid calls of [voter fraud](http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/roy-more-voter-fraud_us_5a30ad1be4b01bdd7658579e). I guess that all the polls having Jones be behind shows that there was voter fraud to the morons. Of course they overlook the fact that Trump was behind in the polls heading into the federal election, but no fraud there.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-giving-bannon-so-much-credit/780625/26 "2017-12-13T15:06:34Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> Of course there are stupid calls of [voter fraud](http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/roy-more-voter-fraud_us_5a30ad1be4b01bdd7658579e). I guess that all the polls having Jones be behind shows that there was voter fraud to the morons. Of course they overlook the fact that Trump was behind in the polls heading into the federal election, but no fraud there.

Massive Fraud! (in the states he lost)

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-giving-bannon-so-much-credit/780625/27 "2017-12-13T15:18:33Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> I’d just like to take this opportunity to point out (again) that Bannon, isn’t so much the dark prince of politics as he a dark shit stain on its underwear.
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> Fuck you, Bannon, you loathsome drunken troll. [Screw you and the horse your child molesting candidate rode in on.](http://thehill.com/homenews/media/364622-ny-daily-news-hits-moore-screw-you-and-horse-you-rode-in-on)

A-fucking-men!

It’s time for Bannon to slink away with his bottle and never resurface. Go tend to your flock of dipshit sheep in the breitbart comments section. Say hi to Okra for us.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-giving-bannon-so-much-credit/780625/28 "2017-12-13T15:21:45Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> I’d just like to take this opportunity to point out (again) that Bannon, isn’t so much the dark prince of politics as he a dark shit stain on its underwear.
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> Fuck you, Bannon, you loathsome drunken troll. [Screw you and the horse your child molesting candidate rode in on.](http://thehill.com/homenews/media/364622-ny-daily-news-hits-moore-screw-you-and-horse-you-rode-in-on)

Anyone else catch the fact that the horse is a filly?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-giving-bannon-so-much-credit/780625/29 "2017-12-13T15:23:47Z")

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Bannon’s done more for the Democrats in one year than the Dems have together.

In a way, I’m grateful for Bannon. It gave the alt-right an opportunity to see how government actually works from the inside, and exposed them to the complexities that exist outside their small sphere of thinking. Bannon’s tenure showed them how their ideology just doesn’t fucking work. America is losing opportunities that China and India have gleefully picked up, thanks to his isolationist creed. I doubt Bannon learned from this, but his influence has proved to be poisonous, so less people (who matter) will listen to him.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-giving-bannon-so-much-credit/780625/30 "2017-12-13T15:29:40Z")

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> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#):
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> Amen. Last night was a small beacon of hope for the 2018 elections.

Not so as much as it was a giant message that even Republicans recognize shit when they see it.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-giving-bannon-so-much-credit/780625/31 "2017-12-13T15:36:51Z")

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By all means. Make him pay cash for everything. Just settling up his bar tab could be a major blow to his finances.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-giving-bannon-so-much-credit/780625/32 "2017-12-13T16:50:19Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> ]Screw you and the horse your child molesting candidate rode in on.

Now, now, it’s not [poor Sassy’s fault](https://twitter.com/roymooreshorse)!

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-giving-bannon-so-much-credit/780625/33 "2017-12-13T17:15:11Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> You know who else was a shit stirring bomb thrower who is only marginally more clever than the orange puppet at the end of his shit stained hand?

> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Jim Henson?

[Crazy Harry](https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/disney/images/4/4d/Crazy_Harry.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20111013192326), to be precise.

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**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-giving-bannon-so-much-credit/780625/34 "2017-12-13T17:51:53Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Now, now, it’s not [poor Sassy’s fault](https://twitter.com/roymooreshorse)!

I don’t know why people keep insisting on screwing horses. I hate that saying. But I agree on Bannon. The dude is gross and creepy and was an absentee deadbeat father.

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**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-giving-bannon-so-much-credit/780625/35 "2017-12-13T18:12:27Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Anyone else catch the fact that the horse is a filly?

Anyone else catch the fact that the horse is named for a teen girls’ magazine?

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-giving-bannon-so-much-credit/780625/36 "2017-12-13T18:19:40Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> **Stop giving Bannon so much credit.**  
> Media talking heads and reporters have to stop painting that crypto-fascist as some sort of political mastermind. . . .

A couple of the online mini-articles I’ve read make me suspect that some of them are doing it just to troll the President, who HATES it when journalists say he’s being led.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-giving-bannon-so-much-credit/780625/37 "2017-12-13T18:30:28Z")

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Bannon specializes in breaking stuff, and it just so happened that there was a market for breaking stuff in 2016 and he had the perfect candidate to be his human wrecking ball. The question going forward is whether or not there is still a market for breaking stuff in 2018 and 2020. There might be, but people might want a different wrecking ball.

There’s no question now that Donald Trump has lost the last few rounds of this fight badly and he’s starting to fall behind on the scorecards. The only caution is that he’s been in this position before. I would be careful about writing him off - Bannon or no Bannon.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-giving-bannon-so-much-credit/780625/38 "2018-01-09T21:26:38Z")

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[QED: Bye Felicia!](http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/09/media/steve-bannon-leaving-breitbart/index.html)

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-giving-bannon-so-much-credit/780625/39 "2018-01-09T23:08:09Z")

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Bannon appears to be on an accelerating decline, which is great. But based on the Michael Wolff book that I’m about halfway through now, I think some of the comments about him are misguided. Yes, he’s a neo-Nazi with a sordid background bent on destroying the conventional establishment, and yes, everyone including Trump thinks he looks like a homeless bum. But one thing he apparently is not is stupid. He’s apparently well-read and highly opinionated based on a pretty deep knowledge of the political scene as interpreted through his warped ideology. Among Kushner, Priebus, and Bannon at the time when Bannon was at his peak of power, he was the thinker of the lot more than anyone else, albeit disorganized and dishevelled.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2018, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-giving-bannon-so-much-credit/780625/40 "2018-01-10T03:03:39Z")

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In the land of the blind, a one eyed man is king.

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