# STOP NOW or I will cut your fucking balls off myself **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 15, 2003, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-now-or-i-will-cut-your-fucking-balls-off-myself/175441 "2003-05-15T14:24:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-now-or-i-will-cut-your-fucking-balls-off-myself/175441/21 "2003-05-15T16:04:10Z")
I’m gonna be frank here-if you don’t want them to spray, you’ll have to get them fixed. If you don’t, you really have NO cause to complain. God, I’m so sick of people who let their animals outside, and don’t get them fixed. Neighbor cats come in our yard and spray all over the place. Then they get strays pregnant and congrats-you’ve just contributed to the over population of cats in our nation. They’re YOUR pets-it is YOUR responsibility to take care of them. If you’re not going to breed them-get them fixed! They’ll be much happier, less likely to roam and spray. And they’ll be healthier. ---
**Author:** ![DeskMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DeskMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeskMonkey)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-now-or-i-will-cut-your-fucking-balls-off-myself/175441/22 "2003-05-15T16:04:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by calm kiwi \* > \*\*It strikes me as kind of weird that the declawing issue (something I have NEVER heard of here) is cruel but whacking the balls of what are essentialy teenagers is a good thing. \*\* The reason it’s different is that neutering benefits the cat by reducing risk of disease, keeping population under control, and it helps stop the spread of disease by making the cat less likely to wander and fight with other cats. Declawing is more a convenience for the owner. Besides, there are a few tenagers out there who could benefit from this procedure, too. ---
**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-now-or-i-will-cut-your-fucking-balls-off-myself/175441/23 "2003-05-15T16:17:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by belladonna \* > \*\ ***calm kiwi** –you’re being silly. I don’t mean to be nasty because it seems like you do care for these animals, but the fact of the matter is that you know what should be done. Unfortunately, it’s seeming more and more to me like you’re in here just waiting for someone to come along and say “Oh, that’s okay don’t get them fixed. You were right to neglect this important part of being a cat owner.” > The fact of the matter is that you mucked up. They should have been fixed long ago, and now you’re going to have to deal with the consequenses of putting it off. There is no magic pill to make them stop spraying. There is no guarantee that the owners of female cats in your neighborhood haven’t been just as irresponsible with their animals as you have been with yours. There is no excuse for putting this off any longer in the mistaken belief that overpopulation is not a problem in your corner of the world. Cats fuck. They spray. They roam. They fight. They can, and often do, contract nasty diseases when allowed outside. Fixing them will eliminate or, at the very least, greatly reduce the risks associated with these behaviors. Get them fixed, give them to someone who will, or keep them in the house and live among their stench. Those are your choices as a responsible pet owner. Anything else is just shirking the duties you signed up for when you took those cats into your home. \*\* **Bella** I haven’t taken what you have said as nasty. I do care about animals in general and the boys in particular. I fully acknowledge that what you and others have said is right and I wasn’t looking for a “help me not fix my boy’s” fix…more a temporary solution. The disease situation is very different in NZ then in seems to be in the US but yes we have our share of strays. The boys like all kiwi cats are outside whenever they feel like being outside and because of that fact their fertility is my responsiblity. I am however a solo parent and money is a consideration and was GENUINELY concerned about getting the boys fixed at different times. I do resent the implication that I can’t afford the boys (QueerGeekGirl) though I don’t personally love cats the boys are well cared for (yes except for the balls bit) and very very very well loved. I have so been tempted to add to the “weird things my cat does” threads because the childs cat is wacko! I will have to fix them very soon …i was just hoping someone had a ‘til then’ remedy…I am sorry if i offended anyone with my cats nuts. ---
**Author:** ![Gr8Kat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gr8kat/32/18668_2.png) [@Gr8Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gr8Kat)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-now-or-i-will-cut-your-fucking-balls-off-myself/175441/24 "2003-05-15T16:20:35Z")
I have another couple suggestions on stopping the wardrobe pissing (_after_ you’ve had them fixed). 1. To completely obliterate the smell of the urine, try a vinegar solution. I think it only needs to be 1 part vinegar to 3 parts water. 2. Cover the spot on the wardrobe where they pee most often with aluminum foil. Theoretically, the cats won’t like the sound of the spray against the foil (cats naturally recoil from anything that sounds like hissing) and will stop peeing there. Good luck, and trust me, the cats are barely aware they have balls. They won’t miss them. But, if you’re sincerely _that_ concerned, then maybe you need to invest in a couple sets of [neuticles](http://www.neuticles.com/). ---
**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-now-or-i-will-cut-your-fucking-balls-off-myself/175441/25 "2003-05-15T16:23:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by DeskMonkey \* > \*\*The reason it’s different is that neutering benefits the cat by reducing risk of disease, keeping population under control, and it helps stop the spread of disease by making the cat less likely to wander and fight with other cats. Declawing is more a convenience for the owner. > > Besides, there are a few tenagers out there who could benefit from this procedure, too. \*\* Oh yes there are many (read-all) teenagers whose parents could benefit with them being neutered 😉 And should we neuter all males just cause we care about their health 🙂 The boys will be going next week I promise! Still pleased the boy’s don’t have to be declawed or live inside forever though. ---
**Author:** ![belladonna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@belladonna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/belladonna)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-now-or-i-will-cut-your-fucking-balls-off-myself/175441/26 "2003-05-15T16:24:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by calm kiwi \* > \*\ ***Bella** I haven’t taken what you have said as nasty. \*\* Good. I’m a single mom myself, so I know how hard it can be to come up with the cash for something that can be put off indefinitely while more pressing expenses take center stage. (leaky kitchen roof, I’m looking in your direction) I’m not sure what kind of pet programs they have down there in NZ, but there’s been good advice in this thread about trying to get in contact with organizations that can help defray the costs. I know up here, Planned Pethood does a completely free spay day a couple times a year. You have to call and find out when it is, and you have to get there super early to be in the head of the line, but it’s worth it for the peace of mind, no? Good luck with your boys, I hope it all works out. ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-now-or-i-will-cut-your-fucking-balls-off-myself/175441/27 "2003-05-15T16:28:24Z")
Oh, they won’t mourn their balls. I’ve dealt with God knows how many neuters over the years, and I’ve never seen an animal that even seemed to notice. They spend just as much time back there licking as ever, and seem to be perfectly content. As far as the spraying-competition thing goes, some cats just spray, regardless of other cats being around. We had a cat when I was a kid who was purely indoors with no other cats in the house, or at any of our neighbors’ (the nearest one was 1/4 mile away). He still sprayed till we got him chopped. There are vaccines for feline leukemia virus (FeLV) and feline immunodeficiency virus (FIV), but there just isn’t any effective vaccine for feline infectious peritonitis (FIP). And it’s a nasty way to die. Nasty. And, of course, vaccines don’t change the cat’s tendency for fight wounds to turn into big, oozy pockets of subcutaneous infection. Since the cat has to be sedated while these are lanced and drained, these can be expensive to treat. In addition to the health benefits **DeskMonkey** listed, neutering differs from declawing in your ability to alter the behavior. It’s possible, although often frustrating to teach a cat to only claw acceptable surfaces. It’s impossible to teach them to only spray outside. It’s like trying to make a teenage boy quit putting his nasty muddy shoes all over your sofa vs. trying to make the same teenage boy quit jerking off. Which one do you think is more likely to happen? ---
**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-now-or-i-will-cut-your-fucking-balls-off-myself/175441/28 "2003-05-15T16:33:34Z")
Thanks for the good advice Bella and Gr8Kat. Thats what I was after. Meowth was (hmmmmmmmmm kiwi expression coming) doing my tits in. I still wonder if you asked a male, of any species, if they are “barely aware they have balls” what the answer would be 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-now-or-i-will-cut-your-fucking-balls-off-myself/175441/29 "2003-05-15T16:44:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CrazyCatLady \* > \*\* > It’s impossible to teach them to only spray outside. It’s like trying to make a teenage boy quit putting his nasty muddy shoes all over your sofa vs. trying to make the same teenage boy quit jerking off. Which one do you think is more likely to happen? \*\* Well I would imagine the teenage boy would have no problems with stopping jerking off sans balls 🙂 . I have an 11 yr old I may be back soon with a “How do I stop my son spraying” thread …NO he isn’t an indoor child but I am not fixing him anyway 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gr8Kat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gr8kat/32/18668_2.png) [@Gr8Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gr8Kat)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-now-or-i-will-cut-your-fucking-balls-off-myself/175441/30 "2003-05-15T16:52:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by calm kiwi \* > \*\*I still wonder if you asked a male, of any species, if they are “barely aware they have balls” what the answer would be 🙂 \*\* Well, if you think they’re showing pride in their balls when they raise their tails in the air and stick their bums in your face, trust me, they’ll still do that after they’re fixed. I think it’s really their little pink anuses that they’re proud of. ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-now-or-i-will-cut-your-fucking-balls-off-myself/175441/31 "2003-05-15T21:21:19Z")
Well, see, **ck** that’s the _only_ way you’d stop him. I understand not neutering him and this age (wait a few years, you might change your mind ), but you do at least keep him on a leash when he’s out, right? 😉 Besides, it’s really not their balls they’re showing off when shoving hairy little butts in your face. (Well, if it is, my female cats are sadly deluded, anyway.) I second the vote for them being inordinately proud of their anuses. ---
**Author:** ![Elza\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Elza\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elza_B)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-now-or-i-will-cut-your-fucking-balls-off-myself/175441/32 "2003-05-15T21:48:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Kalhoun \* > \*\*We are strictly a girl kitty household now. Fixed boys will spray. Fixed boys will whine like little girlie-men to get out and make dates with the neightborhood sluts. Girls love their mom and dad a lot. \*\* I must be a lucky mom. My fixed boy has never sprayed, my fixed boy _adores_ his mommy (this is the cat that waits in the window when he sees my car pull up after work and then whines _through_ the window until I come in - I can hear him all the way outside), and my fixed boy is extremely loveable. However, he does whine like a little girlie-man to go outside - he’s determined that there is something more exciting out there than what’s inside. The worst thing he does is get horny and attempt to hump his little sister. But as long as he’s not spraying her, she’ll live:D. Ava ---
**Author:** ![Primaflora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Primaflora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Primaflora)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-now-or-i-will-cut-your-fucking-balls-off-myself/175441/33 "2003-05-15T21:53:52Z")
Nil Odor works to reduce the smell. Grapefruit and orange oil is supposed to act as an avoidant but never worked for me. Vinegar and water is good. I’ve had one cat who was neutered as an adult (I got him from the RSPCA) and he sprayed. 2 cats done as kittens and they sprayed while they lived with Fred but stopped once he died. Get them done. NZ has a huge feral cat problem and your boys are adding to it :(. Kiwis and the like cannot fly. Think about it :(. The RSPCA may be able to help with reduced costs or your vet may let you pay the bill off. ---
**Author:** ![Sylkyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/da6949/32.png) [@Sylkyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylkyn)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-now-or-i-will-cut-your-fucking-balls-off-myself/175441/34 "2003-05-15T22:33:03Z")
Every single male cat I have ever owned sprayed. They were all fixed. In fact, one didn’t start spraying until _after_ he was neutered. I guess everybody’s MMV when it comes to this. Get 'em fixed anyway. ---
**Author:** ![SylverOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@SylverOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SylverOne)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-now-or-i-will-cut-your-fucking-balls-off-myself/175441/35 "2003-05-15T22:51:29Z")
When you contact the vet, explain your concerns with having them clipped at separate times. See if the vet will do both at the same time, and maybe accept separate payments instead. Most vets here in Montana really try and work with the owners when it comes to controlling the unwanted pet population. Good Luck! ---
**Author:** ![Gr8Kat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gr8kat/32/18668_2.png) [@Gr8Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gr8Kat)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-now-or-i-will-cut-your-fucking-balls-off-myself/175441/36 "2003-05-15T22:56:04Z")
I have two kitties, Squeaky and Orion. Squeaky will be 12 this summer, and Orion just turned 5. Both were fixed as soon as they were of age, Squeaky is an indoor-outdoor cat and Orion is an indoor only cat. While I admit I have no way of knowing what Squeaky does or doesn’t do outside, neither cat has ever sprayed in the house. Ever. OK, I suddenly remember there was a period where Joel started leaving dirty clothes and towels on the bedroom floor and, for some reason, Orion starting peeing on them. But he wasn’t spraying, he was scratching just like in the litterbox. But when Joel started picking up his dirty laundry, the peeing stopped. So, if you can’t get your boys to stop spraying, maybe you could put them to use discouraging other members’ of the household undesirable behavior. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-now-or-i-will-cut-your-fucking-balls-off-myself/175441/37 "2003-05-15T23:24:48Z")
I’ve heard witch hazel will act as a deterent regarding a pet peeing somewhere. I don’t know if it’s true or not, but it can’t hurt. ---
**Author:** ![dwyr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwyr/32/363_2.png) [@dwyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dwyr)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-now-or-i-will-cut-your-fucking-balls-off-myself/175441/38 "2003-05-16T00:27:20Z")
I had a male cat once that was very territorial, even after he was neutered (before he was full grown). I had two other males at the time and he objected to one of them very much and he started letting me know by spraying. At my wit’s end I asked my vet what I could do about it. She recommended a phermone spray called [Feliway](http://www.feliway.com/html2/shop.php3/index.html). It worked to stop his spraying where nothing else I did would. It’s a bit expensive but better than the frustration and screaming. ---
**Author:** ![elephant\_shoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c77e96/32.png) [@elephant\_shoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elephant_shoes)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-now-or-i-will-cut-your-fucking-balls-off-myself/175441/39 "2003-05-16T04:45:37Z")
Sorry, **calm kiwi** , but I think you’re being a little immature about this. You must get your cats fixed. I understand there is a money situation, but there was a money situation when you got them, no? I find it hard not to tell you that you knew what you were getting yourself into. And now it’s been four years. Males are relatively inexpensive to fix. You’ve got to find a way to come up with the money. Don’t get them fixed just because their ruining your wardrobe. You think it’s cruel to cut a cat’s testicles off? It’s cruel to subject outdoor males to the territorial fighting that goes on out there. It’s cruel to bring in unwanted kittens into this world. As far as I can recall (but I’m too damn tired to find a site), New Zealand might not have alot of problems with disease, but I think they have a pretty nasty problem with stray cats. I love my cats as much as the next guy. But you’ve got to stop anthropomorphizing their behaviour. Cats do not think like humans do. Once kitty gets over the trauma of surgery, he’ll be fine without his testicles. He’ll be more content, with less of a desire to do all the things that he shouldn’t be doing as a domestic cat. You can’t train them to spray outside. They are marking their territory. They live in your apartment. And, of course, as soon as one boy sprays, the other has to match it with his own scent. I hope you’re not too late. Perhaps fixing them will fix your problem. I hope you’ll do the right thing, here. Otherwise, I expect there will be two new boy cats in the local New Zealand shelter, brought there by you. And, of course, the shelter will fix your cats finally. But nobody will want to adopt them as soon as they find out that they spray. So, in the end, they’d be put to sleep. Sorry if I sound harsh, here. But I’m pretty passionate about giving pets the quality of life that they deserve. I hope it works out for you. I’m sure you love your cats and want the best for them. ---
**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-now-or-i-will-cut-your-fucking-balls-off-myself/175441/40 "2003-05-16T09:27:47Z")
Our Tom was fixed when he was little. Never sprayed. He was very cute and loved everyone. He lived on top of a wardrobe mostly, and would launch himself onto the dog if he got bored. He died in November, aged 14. You can try lemon juice, garlic or vinegar to stop them spraying. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-now-or-i-will-cut-your-fucking-balls-off-myself/175441.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-now-or-i-will-cut-your-fucking-balls-off-myself/175441.md?page=3)