# Stop Panicking!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-panicking/1003447>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [June 28, 2024, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-panicking/1003447 "2024-06-28T15:26:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-panicking/1003447/921 "2024-07-15T17:08:34Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> I keep seeing this and just don’t get it. While we don’t have a ton of examples where a person running for President was shot at and survived there is no evidence to suggest it has ever transformed any of them into the favorite.

Well, there are the folks pointing out “who looks toughest” is the favorite, and they were just treated to an image of a triumphant Trump with his fist held high surviving an assassination attempt to play alongside a droopy-mouthed Biden fading into incoherence.

> [@John\_Bredin](#):
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> I’m sure the GOP and MAGA social media will spam us with the images of Trump’s fist-raise and bloody ear. But I’m equally sure that the potential voters who aren’t MAGA will be sick to death of seeing Trump’s bloody ear, because I am already.

We can hope.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-panicking/1003447/922 "2024-07-15T17:56:14Z")

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Most of the people claimingTrump looks tough in the picture are already in the bag for him so I don’t see it having much impact.

And “droopy faced Joe” has been a thing the MAGAts have been pushing since 2020 with the “sleepy Joe” nickname.

I still believe the GOP/Trump hate rhetoric is more of a negative for them with voters than the two things above will end up being positives.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-panicking/1003447/923 "2024-07-15T18:00:27Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> Most of the people claimingTrump looks tough in the picture are already in the bag for him

I dunno. I hate him with every fiber of my being, but that’s a badass picture. I can see some stupid unmotivated voters having their minds changed by it (from not voting to voting for Trump).

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**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-panicking/1003447/924 "2024-07-15T18:07:51Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> they were just treated to an image of a triumphant Trump

Anybody can look triumphant after being rescued by the Secret Service. I like candidates who are brave while being shot at, and don’t cower behind a podium.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-panicking/1003447/925 "2024-07-15T18:14:36Z")

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If the election were in a couple of weeks I could see it having more of an impact. Most voters are easily distracted by the next thing to come along.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-panicking/1003447/926 "2024-07-15T18:26:30Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Random tweeter is just as likely (probably more likely) to be a bullshitter, bot, or troll than an actual sincere contemplator.

You can check her post history. Lots of coherent, consistent tweets. She’s replied coherently to several comments on her tweet. And she has thousands of followers who are themselves (at least in part) obviously not bots. Definitely not a bot herself, and probably not a troll.

Sincere contemplator? Well I’m not sure much deep contemplation is going on since a cool pic got her to vote in a certain way. But people with poor contemplation skills still get a vote, just like you or me.

Anyway, it’s just one person. But it would not shock me in the least if there are many people out there for which that pic moves the needle.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-panicking/1003447/927 "2024-07-15T19:16:59Z")

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> **[Get a Grip, Democrats. You Can Still Win This | Washington Monthly](https://washingtonmonthly.com/2024/07/15/get-a-grip-democrats-you-can-still-win-this/)**
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> Get a Grip, Democrats. You Can Still Win This. Biden's not far behind, the economic conditions remain excellent, and a vile assassination attempt in July doesn't determine November's outcome.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-panicking/1003447/928 "2024-07-15T20:07:14Z")

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> [@sciurophobic](#):
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> Anybody can look triumphant after being rescued by the Secret Service. I like candidates who are brave while being shot at, and don’t cower behind a podium.

As I have said IRL, great, now Trump looks tough for getting shot in the ear and ducking. At the same time, I wouldn’t expect anyone to stay standing there at the podium as bullets wiz by.

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-panicking/1003447/929 "2024-07-15T20:13:59Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> [Get a Grip, Democrats. You Can Still Win This | Washington Monthly](https://washingtonmonthly.com/2024/07/15/get-a-grip-democrats-you-can-still-win-this/)

Perfect for this thread – thanks for this link.

I assumed that the _Washington Monthly_ was some newfangled online-only news outfit. They’ve actually been around since the 1960s.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-panicking/1003447/930 "2024-07-15T20:48:52Z")

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> [@bordelond](#):
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> I assumed that the _Washington Monthly_ was some newfangled online-only news outfit. They’ve actually been around since the 1960s.

No idea, I just saw it linked elsewhere.

I’m terrified, but all is NOT lost. America can rise up to save itself.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-panicking/1003447/931 "2024-07-15T21:33:56Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> As I have said IRL, great, now Trump looks tough for getting shot in the ear and ducking. At the same time, I wouldn’t expect anyone to stay standing there at the podium as bullets wiz by.

I doubt he had a choice. Didn’t the Secret Service knock him down and cover him with their own bodies? I’m pretty sure that’s their job if they hear bullets flying.

I will say I was kind of surprised to see that picture instead of one with him huddled under something with his arms over his head. But by the time they let him stand up they’d probably done so because they’d been told the shooter was down, and Trump would have heard that too.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-panicking/1003447/932 "2024-07-15T22:06:37Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I doubt he had a choice. Didn’t the Secret Service knock him down and cover him with their own bodies? I’m pretty sure that’s their job if they hear bullets flying.

From the video I’ve seen, first Trump slaps at his ear, then ducks. Only after that do other people (presumably Secret Service) appear in that space. (They may be covering him with their bodies, but the camera angle doesn’t show that.)

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-panicking/1003447/933 "2024-07-15T22:38:33Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I doubt he had a choice. Didn’t the Secret Service knock him down and cover him with their own bodies? I’m pretty sure that’s their job if they hear bullets flying.

No, he got hit in the ear, flinched, then ducked. The Secret Service then swarmed the stage to cover him.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2024, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-panicking/1003447/934 "2024-07-15T23:45:45Z")

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Ah. Thanks for info.

However, I’ve got to agree that ducking when somebody’s shooting at you is a good idea.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2024, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-panicking/1003447/935 "2024-07-16T01:17:28Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Ah. Thanks for info.
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> However, I’ve got to agree that ducking when somebody’s shooting at you is a good idea.

I would recommend it.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2024, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-panicking/1003447/936 "2024-07-17T02:29:09Z")

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> [@sciurophobic](#):
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> I like candidates who are brave while being shot at, and don’t cower behind a podium.

ikr? And whine about their shoes. Loser big league.

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**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-panicking/1003447/937 "2024-07-18T00:10:30Z")

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Maybe those shoes have lifts in them and he didn’t want that going public.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-panicking/1003447/938 "2024-07-18T00:32:25Z")

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:cough:

Desantis

:cough:

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-panicking/1003447/939 "2024-07-18T18:34:54Z")

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Yeah, knee-length white boots definitely would NOT have been knocked off, no matter how hard the Secret Service tackled!

(I know that’s not what you meant, but…)

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-panicking/1003447/940 "2024-08-13T22:35:22Z")

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Update: I’m no longer panicking. You?

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