# Stop saying "meth!"  It is stupid!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 10, 2013, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310 "2013-04-10T09:39:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/241 "2017-07-05T14:17:28Z")

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> [@Ispolkom](#):
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> Since in four years no one else has bothered, let me salute you for a great Gavin Ewart pastiche.

Thank you. I also hadn’t realized this was a 2013 zombie.

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**Author:** ![Crazy\_Canuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazy_canuck/32/5282_2.png) [@Crazy\_Canuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazy_Canuck)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2017, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/242 "2017-07-05T17:27:56Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Anyone ever heard of “boy” as a slang for heroin?

Not directly as slang, but yes. The way I’ve heard it used, it’s not a direct replacement word. It’s used more like a “let’s go talk to the boy” where the boy is actually heroin. It allows you to talk about it in public while sounding like you are talking about something else.

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**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2017, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/243 "2017-07-08T10:09:17Z")

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> [@Double\_Foolscap](#):
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> Not even once?

[Just once. In 1960. For 20 minutes.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=283407)

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/244 "2017-07-10T23:46:44Z")

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This song is 20 years old, but I guess the OP would say the members of [Third Eye Blind](http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/thirdeyeblind/semicharmedlife.html) never did meth/speed/whatever:

_Doing crystal meth, will lift you up until you break  
It won’t stop, I won’t come down  
I keep stock with the tick-tock rhythm, I bump for the drop  
And then I bumped up, I took the hit that I was given  
Then I bumped again, then I bumped again_

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2017, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/245 "2017-07-10T23:57:29Z")

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> [@Crazy\_Canuck](#):
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> Not directly as slang, but yes. The way I’ve heard it used, it’s not a direct replacement word. It’s used more like a “let’s go talk to the boy” where the boy is actually heroin. It allows you to talk about it in public while sounding like you are talking about something else.

I knew heroin addicts who specifically referred to the drug as “boy”. That may have just been a sort of local misspeak but it’s definitely what I heard. I didn’t ever know if it was a widespread term or not tho.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/246 "2017-07-11T04:13:27Z")

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Pretty much all the professionals I know in the court system call it meth. Judges, lawyers, cops, counselors, etc.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/247 "2017-07-11T05:14:51Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> Now I want to go out and get me some meth…

Given your username, it’s understandable. 😉

> [@Troppus](#):
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> I guess marijuana aficionados are just too damned chill and charming to get worked up over “pot”, “weed” and “bud”. That’s why they’re my favorite illicit substance users. Tweakers take a lesson.

Sheeeit, “marijuana aficionados” are about the most pretentious, smug hipster assholes around. My god, it’s just fucking weed. Im sorry, maybe I’ve just been smoking weed too long but there isn’t even a hint of difference to me between good indica and good saliva (or good hybrid), much less specific strains. Good weed gets me stoned, mildly euphoric, hungry and relaxed. Whether it’s saliva, indica or a hybrid.

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**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/248 "2017-07-11T11:04:01Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Thank you. I also hadn’t realized this was a 2013 zombie.

Meth?

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/249 "2017-07-11T11:09:46Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Im sorry, maybe I’ve just been smoking weed too long but there isn’t even a hint of difference to me between good indica and good saliva

I think you’ve definitely been doing too much weed if you resort to smoking spit.

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**Author:** ![Crazy\_Canuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazy_canuck/32/5282_2.png) [@Crazy\_Canuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazy_Canuck)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/250 "2017-07-11T16:47:17Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Im sorry, maybe I’ve just been smoking weed too long but there isn’t even a hint of difference to me between good indica and good saliva (or good hybrid), much less specific strains. Good weed gets me stoned, mildly euphoric, hungry and relaxed. Whether it’s saliva, indica or a hybrid.

If you can’t tell the difference between a good indica and a good sativa then I’m sorry, you are getting shit weed. Sure, most low-potency hybrid weed is very same-y, but the really good stuff is not. Especially with strains that are above 15-20% THC, I find the differences between the high you get from each are extremely different. This is even more true now than when I started toking 25 years ago.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2017, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/251 "2017-07-11T17:31:40Z")

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> [@Crazy\_Canuck](#):
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> If you can’t tell the difference between a good indica and a good sativa then I’m sorry, you are getting shit weed. .

LOL. No. I’m really, really not.

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**Author:** ![llcoolbj77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb9ed0/32.png) [@llcoolbj77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/llcoolbj77)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/252 "2017-07-12T16:27:57Z")

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The kids I represent call weed “tree” now. It is weird. I don’t know if that’s a northern Virginia thing. I call it weed. They know what I’m talking about when I say weed. But they call it tree.

Meh.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/253 "2017-07-12T16:32:46Z")

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> [@llcoolbj77](#):
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> The kids I represent call weed “tree” now. It is weird. I don’t know if that’s a northern Virginia thing. I call it weed. They know what I’m talking about when I say weed. But they call it tree.
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> Meh.

“Tree” has been used at least the past 15 years. [Buds](https://thumb9.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/1019195/543384046/stock-photo-close-up-of-blue-cookies-marijuana-bud-on-white-background-543384046.jpg) look kinda like [trees](http://www.clker.com/cliparts/0/a/0/7/134013174722559134Comic%20Tree.svg.med.png).

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**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2017, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/254 "2017-07-12T20:51:55Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Thank you. I also hadn’t realized this was a 2013 zombie.

Actual zombies don’t use the term zombie.

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