# Stop saying "meth!" It is stupid! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 10, 2013, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310 "2013-04-10T09:39:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![brujaja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@brujaja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brujaja)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/21 "2013-04-10T11:20:18Z")
With all due respect, I have to wonder if you’d be accusing me of drug-fueled “frothing” if I had written an OP in boldface caps about, say, income taxes or early-morning garbage trucks or rude telephone salespeople. You do perhaps have a point about why exactly it bugs me so much. I think it may be because people involved with drugs are just about the only subgroup of people about whom it is still okay to make misguided presumptions, and whom it is okay to demonize and/or trivialize, and to outright disparage without the least compunction. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/22 "2013-04-10T11:21:43Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Until the next BigT thread, we now have the current winner of dumbest thread on the board. Whilst I do not participate in the BigT smashdowns, I do believe you may be correct in your estimation of this thread **Loach**. Now I _ **was** _ going to go to pains explaining to the OP the qualitative difference between the speed of old and the new-fangled meth, but I think I might just pull up a lounge chair and an esky instead. I’ll be here sucking on a stubbie…😃 ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/23 "2013-04-10T11:24:39Z")
The nice thing about weed is that you can call it whatever the fuck you want and nobody gives you any shit. ETA: or so I’ve been told. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/24 "2013-04-10T11:26:41Z")
> [@brujaja](#): > > In the underworld, if somebody asks if you know where to get some “meth,” you know they’re a cop. So, you really think that the various police forces are all that unprepared? I’d be surprised if they were. A more likely explanation, IMHO, for someone asking for meth as opposed to whatever the latess drug lord lingo is for something is that person isn’t privy to the latest drug lord lingo newletter and/or is just startig out on a life of illicit drug use. ---
**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/25 "2013-04-10T11:32:59Z")
I heard there’s a new drug on the street called “meh”. The buzz is like totally average. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/26 "2013-04-10T11:33:15Z")
So you’re saying if I want to stop getting weird looks I should stop asking for N-methyl-1-phenylpropan-2-amine? I thought these drug dealers were pros. ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/27 "2013-04-10T11:35:42Z")
> [@brujaja](#): > > Most commonly, they just call it “dope,” because there is no chance of anyone mistaking what kind of dope they mean. Speedfreaks, (heroin) junkies, and other kinds of users rarely hang out together. My familiarity with this sort of thing goes back a few decades, but no one I knew ever called it dope. It was always “crank” and less commonly speed. Sometimes it would be called “crystal” as in short for crystal meth since if you ever buy straight from the source, it comes in crystals not unlike rock candy. Traditionally, speed referred to amphetamine salts like dextroamphetamine sulfate (uppers). They tend to have similar effects but don’t work the same way at normal dosages in that methamphetamine causes the [release of neurotransmitters in the brain directly](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methamphetamine#Pharmacology) while other amphetamines tend to do this [only at elevated dosage levels.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexedrine#Pharmacology) ---
**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/28 "2013-04-10T11:35:45Z")
On Intervention, the guy who used to help people was asked what his addiction was. He replied “Crystal Meth”. Maybe he was replying to how he believed the audience would relate. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/29 "2013-04-10T11:35:48Z")
NM ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/30 "2013-04-10T11:36:16Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > Whilst I do not participate in the BigT smashdowns, That’s where you lose all credibility. Sorry.☹ ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/31 "2013-04-10T11:39:05Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > That’s where you lose all credibility. Sorry.☹ Oh you big bully you! ---
**Author:** ![Ms.Pumpkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a87d85/32.png) [@Ms.Pumpkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ms.Pumpkin)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/32 "2013-04-10T11:39:40Z")
Maybe it’s a regional thing. No one around here would ever call soda “pop”, for example. I’ve only personally known one meth user(well, only one who admitted it, anyway), and she called it “meth” or “crystal”. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/33 "2013-04-10T11:42:37Z")
> [@Ms.Pumpkin](#): > > Maybe it’s a regional thing. No one around here would ever call soda “pop”, for example. I’ve only personally known one meth user(well, only one who admitted it, anyway), and she called it “meth” or “crystal”. Here to. Now I have to start telling them they are all wrong. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/34 "2013-04-10T11:45:17Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Here to. Now I have to start telling them they are all wrong. \*\* DON’T TELL THEM THEY’RE WRONG…THEY’RE COPS!!!\*\* 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/35 "2013-04-10T11:46:23Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > Oh you big bully you! OK, sorry. You’re credible. Or incredible. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/36 "2013-04-10T11:47:11Z")
What the fuck are you on about? I don’t know what dry gulch you live in, but meth (there, I said it) is still sold by the metric shit-ton (and smaller amounts) across the US, most of it brought in from Mexico since the rousing success of the War on Sinus Sufferers. There are periodic busts of stash houses up in the far northern suburbs of Atlanta yielding enough bricks of crystal to build an igloo and usually four or five arrestees with hypenated Latino surnames. Just because nitwit emokidz have lately taken to buying “bath salts” and “sneaker polish” and “Wild Berry PopRocks” from shady gas stations and websites doesn’t mean methamphetamine has been eradicated. Sounds like you need just better connections. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/37 "2013-04-10T11:52:58Z")
> [@brujaja](#): > > I think it may be because people involved with drugs are just about the only subgroup of people about whom it is still okay to make misguided presumptions, and whom it is okay to demonize and/or trivialize, and to outright disparage without the least compunction. Damn right. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/38 "2013-04-10T11:54:59Z")
I tried to “quote” it earlier but fucked it up big time, but you MUST check out **AClockworkMelon’s** Meth 5 linky. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/39 "2013-04-10T11:58:59Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > [Meth 1](http://picsthatdontsuck.com/img/Meth_Stargate.jpg) > [Meth 2](http://www.google.com/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/meth.jpg&sa=X&ei=2dvMULasA6PiiAL_7IGoAQ&ved=0CAkQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNFSMSb2o8nMjm8p_Og6Gxz6dvpWvA) > [Meth 3](http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Not+even+once_d563c1_3655424.jpg) > [Meth 4](http://www.google.com/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rtMsD1b0i4o/Swd2xORvRtI/AAAAAAAAAuU/4vpDAkyh3dA/s1600/seeing-faces-on-inanimate-objects-is-not-normal-but-on-meth-it-is.jpg&sa=X&ei=ddzMUOLnHMabiAKThYCYAQ&ved=0CAoQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNHoV_5N9CO2EI6ldopmZBo-08tVqQ) > [Meth 5](http://www.google.com/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://img.izismile.com/img/img4/20111123/640/funny_this_is_not_normal_meth_memes_640_28.jpg&sa=X&ei=xtzMUOaPOeL2igLdwIH4Bg&ved=0CAkQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNFES9SNsy3xuZ2hkR0nRyqGVtJc1Q) > [Meth 6](http://www.google.com/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://2pep.com/funny%20pics/humorous%20hilarious%20pictures/worlds_funniest_hilarious_pictures_cool_images_6.jpg&sa=X&ei=T93MUK6LHIGUiQLVnICICw&ved=0CAoQ8wc4uQE&usg=AFQjCNHcLm7MqfAfxr5Fs1KtPMQnoYGMwA) > [Meth 7](http://2pep.com/funny%20pics/humorous%20hilarious%20pictures/worlds_funniest_hilarious_pictures_cool_images_5.jpg) > [Meth 8](http://2pep.com/funny%20pics/humorous%20hilarious%20pictures/worlds_funniest_hilarious_pictures_cool_images_1.jpg) > [Meth 9](http://2pep.com/funny%20pics/humorous%20hilarious%20pictures/worlds_funniest_hilarious_pictures_cool_images_3.jpg) Now I want to go out and get me some meth… ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/40 "2013-04-10T12:00:01Z")
> [@brujaja](#): > > My advice: Don’t believe everything you read. Good advice - I think I’ll start with your rambling nonsense. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310.md?page=3)