# Stop saying "meth!"  It is stupid!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 10, 2013, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310 "2013-04-10T09:39:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/61 "2013-04-10T13:49:40Z")

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> [@Rushgeekgirl](#):
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> My former roommate called it meth. Actually he said, “meff”, but that was because he was lacking front teeth. He’s now in jail for making meff. I’d think he’d know what it was called, but then again he was pretty stupid.

Was he a cop? A cop that made meff?  
I am so calling it meff from now on.

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**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/62 "2013-04-10T13:50:16Z")

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Thanks for the translation, **Enginerd.** Now I can drink my splornk and actually get some work done.

Side rant: it pisses me off that there seems to be a meth lab bust on the news every night (those darn impossible to find precursors!) yet when law-abiding citizen Tomato goes to CVS for some Mucinex D I about have to sign my life away.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/63 "2013-04-10T13:54:19Z")

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This thread makes obvious the major flaw of the SDMB - the absence of a recreational drug use forum. We are a little short of threads about paedophile slang too. Perhaps another forum there too.

_In My Drugged Up Opinion (IMDUO)_ would suit the OP and _Perverted Illegal Stuff I Must Share (PISIMS)_ would do for the latter.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/64 "2013-04-10T13:58:34Z")

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> [@brujaja](#):
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> I think it may be because people involved with drugs are just about the only subgroup of people about whom it is still okay to make misguided presumptions, and whom it is okay to demonize and/or trivialize, and to outright disparage without the least compunction.

Sure.

Them, and the fatties, and the smokers, and the religious zealots, and the conspiracy theorists, rednecks and hillbillies, trailer trash, liberals, conservatives, non-English speaking foreigners, the blacks, jews, 'spics, all kinds of chinks, women, not to mention the sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wasteoids, dweebies, dickheads…

But just them.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/65 "2013-04-10T14:03:39Z")

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> [@don\_t\_ask](#):
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> This thread makes obvious the major flaw of the SDMB - the absence of a recreational drug use forum. We are a little short of threads about paedophile slang too. Perhaps another forum there too.
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> _In My Drugged Up Opinion (IMDUO)_ would suit the OP and _Perverted Illegal Stuff I Must Share (PISIMS)_ would do for the latter.

Its not recreation, its serious business! Don’t you understand the seriousness of the issue? People are not using the proper slang term!

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**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/66 "2013-04-10T14:04:50Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> Sure.
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> Them, and the fatties, and the smokers, and the religious zealots, and the conspiracy theorists, rednecks and hillbillies, trailer trash, liberals, conservatives, non-English speaking foreigners, the blacks, jews, 'spics, all kinds of chinks, women, not to mention the sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wasteoids, dweebies, dickheads…
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> But just them.

[blazing saddles]You know…morons.[\blazing saddles]

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/67 "2013-04-10T14:15:11Z")

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I used Meth back in the late 80s a couple of times; we called it crystal, crystal Meth, or just Meth. It wasn’t really a thing in my group, we were more into pot, coke (it was the eighties), and acid. Then x came out and changed he whole scene and i straightened out and went to college.

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/68 "2013-04-10T14:25:11Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> The nice thing about weed is that you can call it whatever the fuck you want and nobody gives you any shit.
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> ETA: or so I’ve been told.

Not in my experience.

Y’see, most stoners I know call MJ ‘shit’, so if they ask for some ‘shit’, a cordial fellow stoner will indeed give them some ‘shit’. So there you are.

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**Author:** ![Mithras](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Mithras](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mithras)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/69 "2013-04-10T14:29:51Z")

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Are the people in the meth section of Erowid who, when describing their positive meth experiences, refer to it as “meth” actually just agents for the DEA trying to trick me into doing meth so they can arrest me for meth use?

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/70 "2013-04-10T14:36:10Z")

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Damn there seem to be a lot of undercover cops.

I have to thank the OP for something. I didn’t think I could like anyone less than I do hipsters. Now I do, hipster tweakers. “We have a name for methamphetamine but you probably never heard of it.”

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/71 "2013-04-10T14:37:05Z")

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FWIW, this totally fucked kid I took pity on and gave a ride to back in 1999 or so did indeed call it meth. This may be a case of the language changing over time–at least among the fuckups with whom the OP is acquainted.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/72 "2013-04-10T14:39:40Z")

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> [@leftfield6](#):
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> [blazing saddles]You know…morons.[\blazing saddles]

But they still think Ferris is a righteous dude.

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/73 "2013-04-10T14:46:23Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by brujaja View Post  
> I think it may be because people involved with drugs are just about the only subgroup of people about whom it is still okay to make misguided presumptions, and whom it is okay to demonize and/or trivialize, and to outright disparage without the least compunction.

I agree. I have nothing against drug users. Except Meth Heads, they’re crazy fuckers.

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/74 "2013-04-10T14:53:17Z")

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> [@ugly ripe tomato](#):
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> Side rant: it pisses me off that there seems to be a meth lab bust on the news every night (those darn impossible to find precursors!) yet when law-abiding citizen Tomato goes to CVS for some Mucinex D I about have to sign my life away.

It’s a necessary step to dismantling America’s “Drug Culture”. Once the pharmaceutical companies stop flooding the inner cities with drugs, we’ll see fewer deaths and hospitalizations from ODs. Another good step is to ban high-capacity syringes.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/75 "2013-04-10T15:02:56Z")

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How about if I just say “meth”, without the “!”?

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/76 "2013-04-10T15:13:25Z")

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The names for these drugs seem to change as fast as the various ingredients and flavors change etc when products arent fully  
finished or precursors change …“lemon drops” and “peanut butter” come to mind…boy Im glad THAT phase of my life is OVER!!

…I currently hear about kids using their friends “addies” …as in prescription Adderral…its almost used as currency… Reap what you sow and all that…

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/77 "2013-04-10T15:25:29Z")

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> [@brujaja](#):
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> Anyone procuring an amount of these precursors sufficient to actually produce a batch of methamphetamine is certainly not going to distribute it to the general public.

Ah, so what would they do with it, exactly? Bury it in their back yard? Drink it? I guess I don’t understand the meth-precursor market.

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/78 "2013-04-10T15:25:37Z")

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> [@leftfield6](#):
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> [blazing saddles]You know…morons.[\blazing saddles]

No, no…the proper Blazing Saddles reference for a long list of ne’er-do-wells like this is “…and Methodists.”

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/79 "2013-04-10T15:36:54Z")

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I’m not sure where the OP came from, but I assume that there’s a method to his madness.

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**Author:** ![markdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@markdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markdash)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/80 "2013-04-10T15:46:20Z")

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Sounds like _someone_ didn’t get their meth this morning…

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