# Stop saying "meth!" It is stupid! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 10, 2013, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310 "2013-04-10T09:39:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/101 "2013-04-10T16:58:39Z")
> [@Poysyn](#): > > Great. Reading a thread about meth, laughing my ass off…I really love you guys. Even more than my morning splornk. From my many years on “the street” I’ve learned that marijuana (or “mary jane” as the kids around here call it) can cause euphoria of exactly this type. Are you sure you’re not taking marijuana? Did you eat any brownies that tasted unusual? They can bake it into brownies now. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/102 "2013-04-10T17:08:27Z")
> [@brujaja](#): > > In the underworld… LOL. ---
**Author:** ![August\_West](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/august_west/32/18069_2.png) [@August\_West](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/August_West)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/103 "2013-04-10T17:17:13Z")
I’ve got this mental picture of two toothless, pock-marked addicts slumped on a filthy mattress in an abandoned building. One says “Man, that meth fucked me up yesterday!” The other replies “Actually, that substance can’t properly be called ‘meth’ because the precursors required for methamphetamine production, namely P2P or ephedrine, are nearly impossible to obtain.” And then the first junkie stabs him. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/104 "2013-04-10T17:29:03Z")
> [@Double\_Foolscap](#): > > Not even once? Sorry, but I _just_ got this. Getting old sucks. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/105 "2013-04-10T18:00:27Z")
It’s the meth. It methes with your brain. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/106 "2013-04-10T18:07:08Z")
> [@brujaja](#): > > My advice: Don’t believe everything you read. Your OP is my cite. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/107 "2013-04-10T18:12:29Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > Sure. > > Them, and the fatties, and the smokers, and the religious zealots, and the conspiracy theorists, rednecks and hillbillies, trailer trash, liberals, conservatives, non-English speaking foreigners, the blacks, jews, 'spics, all kinds of chinks, women, not to mention the sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wasteoids, dweebies, dickheads… > > But just them. You forgot the Irish. I mean, besides the rednecks, hillbillies and trailer trash. There’s like one or two other kinds, I can’t remember them all. ---
**Author:** ![Capt\_Kirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Capt\_Kirk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt_Kirk)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/108 "2013-04-10T18:42:24Z")
Dearest OP, You are full of it. While illicit drugs have nicknames that vary by region, country, individual. Etc. You can buy Meth by asking for it as Meth. I live in the dark underbelly of the World(Music Business), and get all kinds of requests, including for “Meth”, but most often the request is for “Crystal”. Aside, I used to work at a venue that was in sight of a “massage parlor”, invariably it was the touring LD(lighting) who asked " happy ending?" Aside 2, I used to have a GF that was a dealer of many different substances but her main deal was Meth, she was a shooter(hey I was a dumb 20 something). I was at her house one day and some clients came over, now see I am a very thickly veined guy, I walk into the living room and immediately understand that I am an object of lust. Two guys and two gals staring me down and salivating. It takes me a bit to realize that they are lusting after my veins as theirs are collapsed. I had no more truck with heavy dope soon after that. **Capt** ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/109 "2013-04-10T18:48:41Z")
> [@brujaja](#): > > You do perhaps have a point about why exactly it bugs me so much. I think it may be because people involved with drugs are just about the only subgroup of people about whom it is still okay to make misguided presumptions, and whom it is okay to demonize and/or trivialize, and to outright disparage without the least compunction. Don’t be silly, we can also do it to kiddie diddlers, rapists and Michigan fans. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/110 "2013-04-10T18:50:40Z")
I’m surprised no one has brought up “Tina” yet. ---
**Author:** ![Troppus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Troppus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troppus)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/111 "2013-04-10T18:52:09Z")
> [@brujaja](#): > > With all due respect, I have to wonder if you’d be accusing me of drug-fueled “frothing” if I had written an OP in boldface caps about, say, income taxes or early-morning garbage trucks or rude telephone salespeople. > > You do perhaps have a point about why exactly it bugs me so much. I think it may be because people involved with drugs are just about the only subgroup of people about whom it is still okay to make misguided presumptions, and whom it is okay to demonize and/or trivialize, and to outright disparage without the least compunction. Huh? You (the collective, tweaker _You_) put foul, poisonous shit in your own lungs and/or veins with full knowledge that it’s probably going to make you unpleasant, irrational, more likely to steal, destroy property, annoy others with grand ideas and grow irreversibly ugly in short order and _you’re_ a victim 'cause we refer to it in shorthand? Touchy, touchy. I guess marijuana aficionados are just too damned chill and charming to get worked up over “pot”, “weed” and “bud”. That’s why they’re my favorite illicit substance users. Tweakers take a lesson. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/112 "2013-04-10T18:55:19Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > From my many years on “the street” I’ve learned that marijuana (or “mary jane” as the kids around here call it) can cause euphoria of exactly this type. Are you sure you’re not taking marijuana? Did you eat any brownies that tasted unusual? They can bake it into brownies now. This post would have been just _that much_ better if you had referred to it as “the marijuana”. _Are you sure you’re not taking the marijuana?_ ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/113 "2013-04-10T18:59:05Z")
> [@Capt\_Kirk](#): > > Dearest OP, > > You are full of it. While illicit drugs have nicknames that vary by region, country, individual. Etc. You can buy Meth by asking for it as Meth. I live in the dark underbelly of the World(Music Business), and get all kinds of requests, including for “Meth”, but most often the request is for “Crystal”. > > Aside, I used to work at a venue that was in sight of a “massage parlor”, invariably it was the touring LD(lighting) who asked " happy ending?" > > Aside 2, I used to have a GF that was a dealer of many different substances but her main deal was Meth, she was a shooter(hey I was a dumb 20 something). I was at her house one day and some clients came over, now see I am a very thickly veined guy, I walk into the living room and immediately understand that I am an object of lust. Two guys and two gals staring me down and salivating. It takes me a bit to realize that they are lusting after my veins as theirs are collapsed. I had no more truck with heavy dope soon after that. > > **Capt** That last one cracked me the fuck up. ‘If I had your veins, I coulda been a junkie. Instead I had to do something with my life. [frownie face]’ Does anybody ever ask for ‘ice’ - what used to be the name for the smokable variety? > [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > Don’t be silly, we can also do it to kiddie diddlers, rapists and Michigan fans. 😃 And the Dutch - if they even exist. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/114 "2013-04-10T19:12:58Z")
[QUOTE=lorene _Are you sure you’re not taking the marijuana?_[/QUOTE] I’m pretty sure the accepted term is _on the drugs_. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/115 "2013-04-10T19:17:55Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I’m pretty sure the accepted term is _on the drugs_. I thought it was “smoking dope.” ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/116 "2013-04-10T19:19:58Z")
Fools! It’s “toking reefer”. ---
**Author:** ![Capt\_Kirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Capt\_Kirk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt_Kirk)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/117 "2013-04-10T19:26:07Z")
> [@deltasigma](#): > > That last one cracked me the fuck up. ‘If I had your veins, I coulda been a junkie. Instead I had to do something with my life. [frownie face]’ > > Does anybody ever ask for ‘ice’ - what used to be the name for the smokable variety? > > And the Dutch - if they even exist. That moment was a very good motivator to clean up my act. I can’t remember anyone asking for “Ice” but I suspect that by the time you have gotten there, you aren’t touring anymore. AIUI that stuff is really bad. IME most touring musicians are relatively clean these days, you don’t see many heavy dopers these days, some but not many. If they are coming direct from a show in NOLA, they will be late and hungover, guaranteed. **Capt** ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/118 "2013-04-10T19:49:19Z")
> [@Kimballkid](#): > > It’s the meth. It methes with your brain. [Exhibit #1](http://images.wikia.com/desencyclopedie/images/4/43/FatFreddySays.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/119 "2013-04-10T19:53:25Z")
> [@deltasigma](#): > > And the Dutch - if they even exist. The Dutch are a myth concocted by the elite families of Europe to justify the construction of an airport below sea level. I mean, windmills? Who buys that shit? ---
**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/120 "2013-04-10T19:59:10Z")
I’ll say ‘meh’ if I want to. I don’t care if it’s stupid. What? Oh. nm [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310.md?page=7)