# Stop saying "meth!"  It is stupid!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 10, 2013, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310 "2013-04-10T09:39:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/141 "2013-04-10T23:44:03Z")

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Okay, what I have learned here is that if I use the word “meth”, I will lose the respect of meth users. I will try to go on somehow.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/142 "2013-04-10T23:45:12Z")

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I wish coming up with slang names for drugs was a career choice. I’d be damned good at it.

We call meth \*twazzle \*here.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/143 "2013-04-10T23:50:06Z")

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> [@pendgwen](#):
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> Really? Because when I was a medical student in an area where methamphetamine abuse was a major problem I had many ED patients tell me that they used “meth”.

Yeah, stim dick is a bitch.

Or so I am told.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/144 "2013-04-11T00:14:26Z")

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> [@brujaja](#):
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> You do perhaps have a point about why exactly it bugs me so much. I think it may be because people involved with drugs are just about the only subgroup of people about whom it is still okay to make misguided presumptions, and whom it is okay to demonize and/or trivialize, and to outright disparage without the least compunction.

I am trying to figure out the logical connection between the OP’s initial rant and the statement above. So by extension, if I do decide to refer to coffee as “splornk”, this means that I am demonizing, trivializing, and outright disparaging coffee drinkers without the least compunction?

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/145 "2013-04-11T00:14:37Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> I could tell you what we call it, but first I’ve got a question you need to answer. Are you a cop? Yes or no.

_Damn!_ “Yes.” ☹ Foiled by that darned question once again! :mad: And I was “this close” to bustin’ your ass too!

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**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/146 "2013-04-11T00:18:42Z")

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[Louis Winthorpe III] It wasn’t heroin, it was angel dust, PCP… [/Louis Winthorpe III]

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**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/147 "2013-04-11T00:53:46Z")

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Around here, they call it meth. Meth, or crystal meth, or peanut butter meth, or bathtub meth. And yes you can get, if you know the wrong people.

Move to Parker County, Texas. Just look for the bad teeth and ask.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/148 "2013-04-11T00:57:17Z")

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> [@pendgwen](#):
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> Really? Because when I was a medical student in an area where methamphetamine abuse was a major problem I had many ED patients tell me that they used “meth”. In my current area of the country when patients say they use “meth” they mean methadone.

ED patients. Erectile Dysfunction?

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**Author:** ![sisu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@sisu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sisu)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/149 "2013-04-11T00:58:40Z")

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In Australia it’s commonly called Ice or meth and it is truly a fucked up drug.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/150 "2013-04-11T01:03:04Z")

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> [@brujaja](#):
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> With all due respect, I have to wonder if you’d be accusing me of drug-fueled “frothing” if I had written an OP in boldface caps about, say, income taxes or early-morning garbage trucks or rude telephone salespeople.

No, I wouldn’t. As a polite telephone salesperson (yeah, I know, oxymoron and all) I would assume your frothing was alcohol fueled.

> [@Darth\_Panda](#):
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> I don’t trust anyone who does anything unironically. Except James Mason, he’s cool.

James Mason did NOTHING unironically!

> [@August\_West](#):
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> And then the first junkie stabs him.

**Brujaja** will correct me if I’m wrong, or even if I am right, but aren’t junkies “on” the heroin, not whatever the kids these days call the meth?

> [@Capt\_Kirk](#):
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> I live in the dark underbelly of the World(Music Business)…

But that’s just the under_belly_. We’re talking about a whole under_world_ here.

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**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/151 "2013-04-11T01:18:23Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> But that’s just the under_belly_. We’re talking about a whole under_world_ here.

In the [Underverse](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0296572/), you [keep what you kill](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/YouKillItYouBoughtIt).

Huh? Wha? 😕 :eek:

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**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/152 "2013-04-11T01:36:06Z")

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I just made a run to the Underverse and my contacts say that soon, _N-methyl-1-phenylpropan-2-amine_ will be marketed under the new name of _Snarkle_.

And, in case anyone wonders, it has nothing to do with the Urban Dictionary definition.

For the record, I wasn’t there to buy anything illegal. Just some research I was doing for my job at S.H.I.E.L.D.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/153 "2013-04-11T01:39:49Z")

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> [@brujaja](#):
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> First of all, NO ONE who uses speed EVER calls it “meth.”

How do you know that?

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**Author:** ![pendgwen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3da27b/32.png) [@pendgwen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pendgwen)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/154 "2013-04-11T04:21:55Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> ED patients. Erectile Dysfunction?

Emergency Department

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/155 "2013-04-11T04:50:45Z")

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> [@Colophon](#):
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> I heard there’s a new drug on the street called “meh”. The buzz is like totally average.

Shows how much you know. NO ONE who uses so-so EVER calls it “meh.”

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/156 "2013-04-11T04:51:00Z")

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> [@AClockworkMelon](#):
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> [Meth 1](http://picsthatdontsuck.com/img/Meth_Stargate.jpg)  
> [Meth 2](http://www.google.com/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/meth.jpg&sa=X&ei=2dvMULasA6PiiAL_7IGoAQ&ved=0CAkQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNFSMSb2o8nMjm8p_Og6Gxz6dvpWvA)  
> [Meth 3](http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Not+even+once_d563c1_3655424.jpg)  
> [Meth 4](http://www.google.com/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rtMsD1b0i4o/Swd2xORvRtI/AAAAAAAAAuU/4vpDAkyh3dA/s1600/seeing-faces-on-inanimate-objects-is-not-normal-but-on-meth-it-is.jpg&sa=X&ei=ddzMUOLnHMabiAKThYCYAQ&ved=0CAoQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNHoV_5N9CO2EI6ldopmZBo-08tVqQ)  
> [Meth 5](http://www.google.com/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://img.izismile.com/img/img4/20111123/640/funny_this_is_not_normal_meth_memes_640_28.jpg&sa=X&ei=xtzMUOaPOeL2igLdwIH4Bg&ved=0CAkQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNFES9SNsy3xuZ2hkR0nRyqGVtJc1Q)  
> [Meth 6](http://www.google.com/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://2pep.com/funny%20pics/humorous%20hilarious%20pictures/worlds_funniest_hilarious_pictures_cool_images_6.jpg&sa=X&ei=T93MUK6LHIGUiQLVnICICw&ved=0CAoQ8wc4uQE&usg=AFQjCNHcLm7MqfAfxr5Fs1KtPMQnoYGMwA)  
> [Meth 7](http://2pep.com/funny%20pics/humorous%20hilarious%20pictures/worlds_funniest_hilarious_pictures_cool_images_5.jpg)  
> [Meth 8](http://2pep.com/funny%20pics/humorous%20hilarious%20pictures/worlds_funniest_hilarious_pictures_cool_images_1.jpg)  
> [Meth 9](http://2pep.com/funny%20pics/humorous%20hilarious%20pictures/worlds_funniest_hilarious_pictures_cool_images_3.jpg)

Hang on, is number 3 saying that meth will bring about racial harmony?

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/157 "2013-04-11T05:15:04Z")

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Do people still shoot horse?

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**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/158 "2013-04-11T05:29:36Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> The Cheat? Is that you?

The Cheat’s in this thread? Is he going to throw a lightswitch rave?

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/159 "2013-04-11T07:52:28Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> Do people still shoot horse?

They shoot horse don’t they?

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-saying-meth-it-is-stupid/655310/160 "2013-04-11T08:06:08Z")

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> [@brujaja](#):
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> \*\*THERE ARE NO “METH” USERS! THERE IS FUNCTIONALLY NO SUCH THING AS A “METH” USER! \*\*
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> (unless they have a prescription for it – and then, we don’t call them “users” – we call them “patients.”)
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> Anyone purchasing what passes for speed these days is getting [“bath salts:”](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_salts_%28drug%29) a substance so nasty, so adulterated with God-knows-what, so unpleasantly far removed from anything like a genuine methamphetamine, that it has caused **actual** (formerly) meth users to give up in despair.
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> Or so I am told.

Are you sure about this? Just from general reading speed/meth/crank and bath salts appear to be classed (even by users) as two completely different categories of drugs.

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