# Stop shitting your fucking pants!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 9, 2009, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-shitting-your-fucking-pants/480599 "2009-01-09T22:34:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-shitting-your-fucking-pants/480599/41 "2009-01-10T17:05:29Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > My three-year old son is struggling a bit with going potty, so he’s mostly still in pullups. > > His favorite trick (which he does on purpose) is to shit himself a good one and then come up to me and say “Daddy, I need to go potty!” Oh, isn’t that fun? It got worse for us, our “struggles” started turning into actual struggles, and finally one day when I was just furious, I loudly asked her WHY she pooped in her underpants. “Because I’m ANGRY WITH YOU!” she shouted back. :eek: Oops. We switched strategies the very next morning, and things are going much better now. ---
**Author:** ![Influential\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Influential\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Influential_Panda)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-shitting-your-fucking-pants/480599/42 "2009-01-10T17:19:33Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > it’d cost me $2.50 a load, several times a week What kid of mammoth baby shot out your cooter what filled up a washing machine with glorified napkins several times a week?! > [@](#): > > Of course the local water treatment plant saw a lot more blackwater coming from our use of cloth diapers If this is such a big deal, why don’t _you_ wear diapers? You poop just the same, your poop goes to the exact same water treatment plant. > [@](#): > > water used to grow the cotton for cloth and the trees for disposables… It’s a tangled web, but according to most studies, they come out about even. You’re going to need to provide a cite for that. I just have a hard time believing that the resources it takes to create and re-use–several hundred times–a single cloth diaper has the same environmental impact as a synthetic diaper. I’m not going to argue personal cost. I’m sure you thought that one out pretty well. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-shitting-your-fucking-pants/480599/43 "2009-01-10T17:35:11Z")
> [@Influential\_Panda](#): > > What kid of mammoth baby shot out your cooter what filled up a washing machine with glorified napkins several times a week?! Doubled diapers for absorbency, diaper covers…8 changes per day at minimum (at least, that’s the minimum your newborn should be wetting to indicate good hydration) and a couple at night…that’s 20 or more diapers per day. If you want good water flow to actually clean them, you can’t put more than 40 in a regular sized washing machine. > [@](#): > > If this is such a big deal, why don’t _you_ wear diapers? You poop just the same, your poop goes to the exact same water treatment plant. Yes, but my poop is escorted out of the house with 2.2 gallons of water, not the [40 gallons used by most conventional washers](http://www.aceee.org/consumerguide/laundry.htm) for one load. And it’s NOT such a big deal. That’s exactly the point - on environmental concerns, it’s just about a wash (pardon the pun). So choose on other grounds - convenience, what the baby seems to like, which gives your particular kid less diaper rash, or whether you like to do laundry or not, if you like the adorable diaper covers for cloth…whatever you like. You just don’t get tree-hugging points either way. > [@](#): > > You’re going to need to provide a cite for that. I just have a hard time believing that the resources it takes to create and re-use–several hundred times–a single cloth diaper has the same environmental impact as a synthetic diaper. [Cite 1](http://www.diapering.com/component/content/article/26-diapering/22-cloth-vs-disposable-the-environmental-impact). [Cite 2](http://www.perc.ca/waste-line/articles/diaper.html). [Cite 3](http://www.grist.org/advice/ask/2008/06/18/index.html). ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-shitting-your-fucking-pants/480599/44 "2009-01-10T18:29:53Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > Oh, isn’t that fun? > > It got worse for us, our “struggles” started turning into actual struggles, and finally one day when I was just furious, I loudly asked her WHY she pooped in her underpants. “Because I’m ANGRY WITH YOU!” she shouted back. > > :eek: > > Oops. > > We switched strategies the very next morning, and things are going much better now. That’s our Girl! I can hardly wait till she becomes a Doper! “I’ve just searched through all Mom’s threads & comments on me. Here’s my side!” Has anything like that happened in SDMB history yet? ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-shitting-your-fucking-pants/480599/45 "2009-01-10T18:55:06Z")
> [@Influential\_Panda](#): > > What kid of mammoth baby shot out your cooter what filled up a washing machine with glorified napkins several times a week?! Consider this in the spirit of fighting ignorance… When my kids were newborns, I ended up with a full load of laundry _almost every day_, and I was using disposable diapers. Using cloth would double that, at least. And it is difficult to leave soiled cloth diapers around waiting for a full load- by difficult, I mean fucking disgusting, even if you swirl them in the toilet first, like my mom had to teach me. Have some kids before you make snide cooter cracks, m’kay? ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-shitting-your-fucking-pants/480599/46 "2009-01-10T19:19:53Z")
> [@Furious\_Marmot](#): > > Completely serious question. People still crap their pants at 21 months? How long does this go on? Is there anything else I should know? My ancestors better be fucking happy with however many kids I may one day have. People still shit their pants well into adulthood, my friend. You just think it’s only you until you’re in a _comfortable_ long-time relationship. Not often, uaually, but it happens. Stewie shits whenever and wherever the mood strikes him, especially for revenge. Don’t let that “just a baby” stuff fool ya! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Influential\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Influential\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Influential_Panda)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-shitting-your-fucking-pants/480599/47 "2009-01-10T19:29:00Z")
Thanks, **WhyNot**. This environmental crap is complicated. > [@EJsGirl](#): > > Have some kids before you make snide cooter cracks, m’kay? Hey, I wasn’t trying to be mean here. I was just trying to how dumbfounded I was while being a bit goofy because, let’s face it, we’re talking about poop and “cooter” is a funny word. No offense meant. ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-shitting-your-fucking-pants/480599/48 "2009-01-10T21:58:44Z")
Okay- I misunderstood. Except that now i see that guy in the ball cap from _The Dukes of Hazzard_ birthin’ babies… :eek: 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-shitting-your-fucking-pants/480599/49 "2009-01-10T22:15:43Z")
> [@nevermore](#): > > Entirely irrelevant to what you are saying, but I totally just read your name as **Freudian Shit**. > > Make of that what you will; I’ll just be over here giggling. 😃 ::tries to look dignified…fails:: Er. I’ll just be over here in the corner, putting ointment on my sprained dignity. Okay, I laughed too. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2009, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-shitting-your-fucking-pants/480599/50 "2009-01-11T07:59:19Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > And it’s NOT such a big deal. That’s exactly the point - on environmental concerns, it’s just about a wash (pardon the pun). So choose on other grounds - convenience, what the baby seems to like, which gives your particular kid less diaper rash, or whether you like to do laundry or not, if you like the adorable diaper covers for cloth…whatever you like. You just don’t get tree-hugging points either way. > [Cite 1](http://www.diapering.com/component/content/article/26-diapering/22-cloth-vs-disposable-the-environmental-impact). [Cite 2](http://www.perc.ca/waste-line/articles/diaper.html). [Cite 3](http://www.grist.org/advice/ask/2008/06/18/index.html). Apparently disposables still take forever to break down in land fills tho? If so, seems that cloth is the way to go if one is worried about environmental concerns. And, people are much more willing to take a dirty cloth diaper with them instead of leaving it where ever they took it off the baby… However, I have a feeling that disposables have become so popular that the accessories that made cloth managable in the past may no longer exist. Except now there are diaper services - how do they compare in price to buying disposables? ---
**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2009, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-shitting-your-fucking-pants/480599/51 "2009-01-11T14:17:02Z")
I had diaper service for my two kids back in the 80’s and it was the Best Thing Ever. We used disposables for long trips and the daycare/babysitting center, but since they didn’t go there all day every day, they were mostly in cloth…and boy, were they eager to get potty-trained! Plus they got fewer rashes. I have no idea how it compared price-wise exactly, because it’s been a long, long time, and the service was a gift from Grandma, but I do remember that it was cheaper for me, as a stay-at-home (well, okay, I did a lot of volunteer stuff and they went to the daycare a lot!) than for the kids who were in daycare all the time and wore disposables all the time. In fact, I remember the diaper service telling me, at one point…“it’s time for you to switch to all-disposables…you’re not using enough diapers a week to justify the fee” when my last one was almost potty trained. ---
**Author:** ![Todderbob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@Todderbob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Todderbob)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2009, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-shitting-your-fucking-pants/480599/52 "2009-01-11T14:27:15Z")
This thread has motivated me, if nothing else, to never, ever had children. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2009, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-shitting-your-fucking-pants/480599/53 "2009-01-11T15:38:54Z")
> [@kittenblue](#): > > I had diaper service for my two kids back in the 80’s and it was the Best Thing Ever. Yeah, I searched for a diaper service when my daughter was born, but no luck. They’ve all shut down around here, except for one which had a website and a phone number, but no answering machine or person to answer the phone apparently. After a few weeks of calling everyday, I decided the website was a dinosaur and stopped calling. I may have been hasty, or they may have gotten their act together. Almost 5 years later, they have a new and improved website; maybe they’ve gotten someone to answer their phones, too. [Bottoms Up](http://bottomsupdiapers.com/) serves the Chicagoland and Southeastern Wisconsin areas. Diapers are $8.50 for 40; they suggest starting with 80 per week, so maybe theirs are absorbent enough not to need doubling. Diaper covers or plastic pants not included. (Diaper covers are available for $7.50-$7.75 each; plastic pants $2 each.) Service for 80 diapers is $17.45 a week. So it’s about the same as disposables, too. Diaper services are some of the worst environmental offenders, however, as they use far more and far hotter water and detergents than a home laundry to keep everything looking so clean. From Bottoms Up’s website: > [@](#): > > How We Wash Them > > We care about your baby and their health so we handle washing cotton diapers with care that you can’t match at home. We use as many as 13 changes of hot water (hotter than your home), with both our washing and drying temperatures being so high, bacteria has no chance of surviving. Also incorporated is ozone which opens up fibers which has been proven to kill 98.8% E-Coli. Our meticulous rinsing also makes sure there is no soap or detergent residue left in the diapers to irritate your baby’s skin. ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-shitting-your-fucking-pants/480599/54 "2009-01-11T15:47:58Z")
I don’t know any parents who leave soiled diapers “where they changed the baby” unless it’s a trash can in a ladies’ room or something. I am much more likely to see a dog poop bag left on the ground. There is still a good market for cloth diapers, accessories and diaper services. In terms of cost, I have seen numbers which suggest that disposable diapers cost $50-80 per month, which is roughly what a diaper service costs, so it might be a wash. Parents choose what is best for their child, and every child is different. My nephew suffered terrible rashes with cloth diapers (an absorbancy thing), but also had problems with standard disposables. Now they have found success with unbleached disposables. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2009, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-shitting-your-fucking-pants/480599/55 "2009-01-11T16:04:52Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > Apparently disposables still take forever to break down in land fills tho? If so, seems that cloth is the way to go if one is worried about environmental concerns. > > And, people are much more willing to take a dirty cloth diaper with them instead of leaving it where ever they took it off the baby… But if you’re changing a cloth diaper in public, what are you supposed to do with it? Just carry it around with you? I don’t have kids, but for that reason, definitely disposable. ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-shitting-your-fucking-pants/480599/56 "2009-01-11T16:07:31Z")
I live in/near a touristy area and occasionally see diapers left in parking lots, behind street lamp poles, and tucked away in other public places. It’s not a huge thing, but neither is it difficult to put them in a trash bag in one’s car until you find a trash can. It’s rude, is all. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2009, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-shitting-your-fucking-pants/480599/57 "2009-01-11T16:16:35Z")
Man o man…My son was completely potty trained at 17 months. The instant cost savings was awesome. We used disposables from the beginning. Between cost of a service, convenience, and all the rest, it was the only choice. The end of the Toxic Dump Stage is truly a whole-family celebration!! ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-shitting-your-fucking-pants/480599/58 "2009-01-11T16:17:53Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > But if you’re changing a cloth diaper in public, what are you supposed to do with it? Just carry it around with you? I don’t have kids, but for that reason, definitely disposable. Put them in a baggie? The poop isn’t going to come creeping out to attack you in the middle of the night on some long lonesome highway. (Movie idea?) Also, you can buy totes. Life is so simple. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-shitting-your-fucking-pants/480599/59 "2009-01-11T16:37:34Z")
> [@mangeorge](#): > > Put them in a baggie? The poop isn’t going to come creeping out to attack you in the middle of the night on some long lonesome highway. (Movie idea?) > Also, you can buy totes. > Life is so simple. Meh. The idea of carrying poop stained anything around with me is just too gross for words. Plus, all the work of washing them in addition to caring for a baby? Ugh, no thanks. This is one of the things that, along with tampons, I’m grateful we have in this modern day of ours. ---
**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-shitting-your-fucking-pants/480599/60 "2009-01-11T16:52:50Z")
Tampons and high heels. Two good reasons to not be reborn as a woman, imo. 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-shitting-your-fucking-pants/480599.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stop-shitting-your-fucking-pants/480599.md?page=4)