Storage Wars vs. Auction Hunters

It’s not about either Auction Hunters or Storage Wars, but this A.V. Club article describes how totally faked House Hunters is. It links to this blog posting from a participant on House Hunters. Among other things, the blog posting says, “The [houses] we looked at weren’t even for sale…they were just our two friends’ houses who were nice enough to madly clean for days in preparation for the cameras!” The A.V. Club article concludes, “So basically, just assume that everything you see on reality TV, even in its most innocuous and straightforward forms, is totally and completely fake, in case you weren’t already doing that.”

Kind of depressing, but it’s probably true.

I caught a few episodes over the last few weekends of Storage Wars. Dave is an ass. It fills me with an odd curiosity about the stuff they find though, but I can’t help but think that all of the different price appraisals they are getting is not nearly close to what they’re making on it.

You have very nice teeth.

Common-law marriages are not allowed in California.
My fakemeter peaks during the haggling on Auction Hunters. I’m just not buying that the car/gun/robot whatever wasn’t tested before they get to the, “$2500 … IF it runs.” suspense-laden moment of does it work or doesn’t it.

Sorry for the double-post.
When my dad died, I got boxes full of books in great condition, most of them hardcover. Should be not problem getting some $ from them so I went to a couple used books stores to get a quote.
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The library branch near the house got a ton of donated books

I just fast-forward during the bidding part of SW.

I believe that’s the same show where they had a unit with Asian furniture and… Rats! Only the rats were pet hooded and white rats. They were clearly tame, clean and healthy, and had been put in the unit recently. They even had some guys go into the unit to move some furniture out (when does that ever happen?), so they could show a pile of (tame, friendly) rats underneath.

The next scene, when they’re bidding, there is nary a rat to be seen. I guess they were all in the hollywood “rat wrangler’s” truck by then, getting some goodies.

Absolutely 100% fake.

Based on his IMDB page “Ton” is an animal wrangler. He may have wrangled the rats himself. :slight_smile:

The biggest problem with these shows is that they have encouracged every loser with ash in his pocket to go out and try to make a living buying lockers. The glut of noobs has appearently started driving the bidding to the point that the real buyers can’t make money anymore.

My favorite buyer in SW has been Nabila. Famous in the buying world for selling the Paris Hilton locker and giving us the Paris Hilton sex tape. :smiley:

On Storage Wars Texas, there’s this Mutt-and-Jeff team of buyers; the big guy’s a blob and the little guy always wears a ten-gallon hat; they both do the Texas drawl, although the little guy admitted in one commentary that it’s fake; he puts it on for effect.

No kidding it’s fake – those two have also appeared in Storage Hunters, without the accents and with dramatically different personas than the genial shit-kickers of SWT. In Storage Hunters the little guy’s goatee is longer and drawn into a badass point, and the two are aggressive jerks that make the regular jerk of the cast (Jesse) look tame.

Ah-ha… Just checked the shows’ websites. On SWT the Mutt-and-Jeff team are described as Rick (little) and Bubba (big) Smith, and Bubba is supposedly Rick’s nephew. But on Storage Hunter in the episode where they wound up with the shipping container full of armbands they were described as a brother team.

Why, yes; yes, i DO watch too much of these shows. Why do you ask? :smiley:

Firstly, I do not believe that Allen and Ton’s prior “acting” experience makes the show fake. Their experience is very limited, and there are literally thousands of people in Southern California and other acting hotspots like New York and Vancouver who have would have similar profiles to Allen, who would not consider acting their day job, who have just done some extra work for a little pocket change.

Storage locker auctions are not the most steady of incomes so it would make sense that they would have sidelines like being an extra in TV or as a reptile handler, in Ton’s case. Spike make no secret of their previous experience on their bio’s.

I believe that their prior tv experience was their “in” with the producers, rather than that they were cast as actors to “play” storage locker buyers.

As for the idea that lockers are seeded… I’m not sure.

A lot of the big ticket items are exactly where you would expect to find them–which is to say, well hidden–and it would be a lot of work to remove all the junk, hide an item and then repack the locker especially if this is being done after the lockers are bought (AH auctions are real auctions, open to the public after all). Unlike some other shows, they do not appear to have a “win-at-any-cost” mentality’ often naming their limit in advance. No production company would seed a locker with a 10g + item just to give away to someone else, and they still have only a day to clear the unit.

However, does that mean it’s also 100% real… I highly doubt that either.

First of all, I’m pretty certain that the boys aren’t bidding with their own money, or at least the production company is comping them for their losses on junk units. The only way you can produce a 20+ episode season of winners woul be by buying at over 100 auctions per tv season, (based on their own 80/20 split numbers). I believe hat the production company give them a budget to buy lockers with over and above what they are being paid to appear In the show, and they are buying many more lockers than normal hunters would.

I also believe they are not doing all of their own work. I think they probably do a 20 minute sweep of the unit (filmed) hand it over to some production interns and employees to do an I depth search through the locker, and then return and film more only if they find anything worthwhile… If not, they likely move on to the next auction, and leave others to do the grunt work. I am certain all of the interviews, introductions and even some of the banter with others is only filmed after they have determined that the lockers there have something worthwhile.

I am pretty sure there are experts on site to offer information and valuation of items, and feed Allen and Ton with information on the most rare and obscure items they find. There is no way two guys can know as much about as wide a range of items as they do.

I also believe they heavily edit and refillm some of the bidding after the fact to increase tension and make it look like they only just got it at the last moment–you often see some very odd angles of just Allen bidding.

Finally, I am sure that the “negotiations” of sales are at least partially scripted.

Unlike most shows of this ilk, auction hunters almost always end up selling to the people who do the appraising. I believe that, in most cases, these experts are not seeing these products for the first time, and have agreed, at least in principal, to buy them at the conclusion of the “negotiation”. I believe they have already given a ballpark figure as to what they will pay for it, and that most items are not being truly tested for the first time on the show–especially for firearms and vehicles. I believe firearms in particular will all have been remotely fired and are known to be working well before Ton or Allen ever load and “test” them.

Just my two cents, but quite reasonable assumptions, I think, based on my own experience of TV production.

“‘Storage Wars’ star Dave Hester says show is fake, suing, report says”

Well, Hester WOULD be the one to do it…

More info on the lawsuit here.

I thought Brandy and Laura were looking, er, “nicer”.

In other news, “Dave Hester sues A&E because of the obvious.”

I can’t imagine anybody really thinking SW is real when, in a locker full of complete and total crap - and I mean hoarder crap, college student crap, whatever - Dave/Barry/Brandy/Darryl find some 19th-century Napoleonic heirloom, is dumber than that guy who thought he had the $20,000 Nintendo!

(The above is one of the worst sentences ever, but I’m gonna leave it.)

I remember when they started seeding the units - early seeding episodes had the actor heading straight to the drawer that contained the goody, bypassing dozens of boxes, shelves, etc. A completely full locker and they would head directly for the dresser in the back to find a $2k collectable - :rolleyes: .

They’ve gotten better at it - now they show the locker being emptied before the seeded item is found. :smiley:

And I’m not too sure why they would fire Dave - he’s the most interesting character on the show! You need a bad guy! WTF, SW?!?!

I always just assumed that the items were found off-camera somewhere in the unit and then they did a “reenactment” of the find once they got the cameras positioned right and what not. Probably did a few takes. This doesn’t mean the item wasn’t there when the unit was opened.

I’m not saying Hester’s lying, but he’s not really the person I would trust to tell me the truth either.

Maybe, but I have a hard time believing they would pay for the labor to empty, then refill (for the re-enactment), then re-empty all those storage lockers. Easier to believe that SW is seeding the things, imho. There’s nothing that says the producers can’t seed the locker after it has been bought and opened: “Here, we need to get the reaction shot - I’m going to put the necklace in this drawer, OK Darryl?” That has the advantages of keeping the Dotson’s out of the loop.

Dan Dotson needs to STFU, btw, and get a lawyer stat.

IIRC, Hester cleared 15k on those papers. Did they make him give them back? What's he pissed off about? Also, his amount on the lawsuit is laughably small - why not sue for $7.5 million? Hell, their lawsuit insurance coverage is probably greater than the amount he’s asking for. Dumbass.

A lot of the show is re-creations. Otherwise how would they know to position a cameraman inside the unit in such a way as to show the winning bidder digging? I’ve also noticed logos on boxes being covered between the initial opening and the dig-through, boxes changing positions, and other indications that some degree of shenanigans is going on.