# Stores/Merchants you stopped business with due to Moral or Political reasons **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 21, 2018, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stores-merchants-you-stopped-business-with-due-to-moral-or-political-reasons/824885 "2018-11-21T11:27:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2018, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stores-merchants-you-stopped-business-with-due-to-moral-or-political-reasons/824885/81 "2018-11-23T03:55:43Z")
I boycotted an entire mall and the suburban town it was in because a friend of mine had been stopped and frisked by the local police for Walking Around While Black while he was waiting for his wife to finish her business. When the supermarket workers here went on strike my wife insisted we go 25 miles away to shop at a supermarket with a different union rather than any non-union stores that were closer. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2018, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stores-merchants-you-stopped-business-with-due-to-moral-or-political-reasons/824885/82 "2018-11-23T04:16:08Z")
> [@Dag\_Otto](#): > > Jimmy John’s because they made their employees sign a non-compete agreement. They don’t do that anymore, but fuck them anyway. Their CEO also likes to do large-animal trophy hunting. :mad: That, and the fact that their food is terrible anyway, is why I don’t patronize them. Another Walmart boycotter here, although I did set foot in there about a year and a half ago to pick up a friend’s meds after she had surgery. Nope, not going back otherwise. Over the years, I’ve had too many colleagues who had to pull teeth just to get paid, not to mention other benefits to which they were entitled. There’s an oil change place down the road from me that always has a Bible verse on their sign. I’m Christian myself, but IMNSHO there is a time and a place for it, and that’s not it. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2018, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stores-merchants-you-stopped-business-with-due-to-moral-or-political-reasons/824885/83 "2018-11-23T04:27:47Z")
Another one: Dollar General. I used to go to the one near my home fairly regularly, because it was convenient. However, in recent times, they have been building stores in any town big enough to have a “Welcome” sign, and are putting mom & pop owners out of business, just like Walmart did with bigger towns and cities a generation ago. I have also heard that they don’t exactly treat their employees very well, either. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2018, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stores-merchants-you-stopped-business-with-due-to-moral-or-political-reasons/824885/84 "2018-11-23T04:35:16Z")
I confess I went to Chick Fil A ONCE. But it was a special circumstance. Someone gave my niece a gift card. And we figured that if it wasn’t used it was just like giving Chick Fil A free money, because the food was already paid for. So we might as well take it and make them work for the money. And I actually really like their sandwiches. I don’t live near one but when I visit near one I’m tempted but resist. So it was nice to get that guilt-free one. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2018, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stores-merchants-you-stopped-business-with-due-to-moral-or-political-reasons/824885/85 "2018-11-23T04:35:35Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > You don’t. They are not telling you that you have to have Sunday as a day of rest, they are just closed then- you can do anything you want, just not buy their product. Many stores close on the weekends. Hell almost the whole US government shuts down. Do you boycott USPS because it is closed on Sundays? How do you feel about them refusing to comply with laws requiring them to provide health coverage to their employees? For “religious” reasons. ---
**Author:** ![pullin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c57346/32.png) [@pullin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pullin)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2018, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stores-merchants-you-stopped-business-with-due-to-moral-or-political-reasons/824885/86 "2018-11-23T10:56:23Z")
> [@Royal\_Nonesutch](#): > > I don’t know, but this sounds vaugely Un-American to me somehow. > > I thought in 2018’s America, if a favorite brother or sister, lifelong best friend, elderly next door neighbor, cherished high school guidance counselor, grocery store cashier or Good Samaritan who donated a kidney to provide your child with a lifesaving organ transplant said even the smallest, most innocuous thing that did not 100% conform to your political outlook you were required to immediately, publicly denounce them as a “Vile, heartless Nazi!” organize a boycott of their workplace, spit in their children’s faces and rally a group of racially diverse, politically active Dartmouth Cultural Studies students to take shifts defecating on their grandmother’s grave? That was awesome! (Except for the coffee on the screen). > [@Wolf333](#): > > You should probably to some research before boycotting. Preferably not on the gateway pundit. > > [Did the CEO of Camping World Tell Trump Supporters Not to Shop at His Stores? | Snopes.com](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/camping-world-ceo-trump/) Thanks for the link. I’d seen it repeated so often I didn’t fact check it. My mistake. ---
**Author:** ![harmonicamoon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/65b543/32.png) [@harmonicamoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/harmonicamoon)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stores-merchants-you-stopped-business-with-due-to-moral-or-political-reasons/824885/87 "2018-11-23T16:16:48Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > What nation? Cite? Sorry, I thought my location would give you the nation. As for the cite, I don’t know how to copy and paste on this device. I googled Walmart and Mexico, and a NY Times article was the first hit. “How Walmart used pay-offs to get its way into Mexico “. December 1912. Sorry I cannot paste. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2018, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stores-merchants-you-stopped-business-with-due-to-moral-or-political-reasons/824885/88 "2018-11-23T16:20:20Z")
> [@harmonicamoon](#): > > Sorry, I thought my location would give you the nation. > > As for the cite, I don’t know how to copy and paste on this device. > > I googled Walmart and Mexico, and a NY Times article was the first hit. > > “How Walmart used pay-offs to get its way into Mexico “.\*\* December 1912\*\*. > > Sorry I cannot paste. Man, that’s _really_ holding a grudge. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![senoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@senoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/senoy)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2018, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stores-merchants-you-stopped-business-with-due-to-moral-or-political-reasons/824885/89 "2018-11-23T16:44:14Z")
> [@BwanaBob](#): > > Not quite a boycott, but I have to be literally starving and weak-legged with no other options to eat at a Chik-Fil-A. I despise their policy of being closed on Sundays, and the whole gay treatment episode. Why do you hate the Closed on Sundays? That’s probably the most progressive policy in the retail industry. Their workers are able to actually plan weeks or months ahead because they have a guaranteed day off. They actually are very progressive on worker’s rights and their franchise policy is exemplary in comparison to pretty much every other business in the industry. ---
**Author:** ![Stuntman\_Mike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stuntman_mike/32/334_2.png) [@Stuntman\_Mike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuntman_Mike)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2018, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stores-merchants-you-stopped-business-with-due-to-moral-or-political-reasons/824885/90 "2018-11-23T17:01:51Z")
If I boycotted every business with which I disagree over “social” policies, I’d be left grocery shopping at yard sales, and stargazing for entertainment. “Mike, then just boycott Target.” …to which I answer, “why?” Isn’t it hypocritical to boycott only some of the businesses with which I disagree, and not all them? Really, the whole thing is pointless, and just makes my life a little less convenient. ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stores-merchants-you-stopped-business-with-due-to-moral-or-political-reasons/824885/91 "2018-11-23T17:27:47Z")
I wouldn’t call it a boycott, but I no longer shop at Hobby Lobby. I used to buy things there occasionally. Between their stance on imposing their religious views on their employees’ insurance coverage and the role the family that owns it played in artifact theft and smuggling from Iraq, which probably indirectly helped fund ISIL, I just don’t want to give them any money. I’m under no delusions that my personal decision, which costs them as a company at most a couple of hundred dollars a year, has any impact at all on them. But, it’s my money, and I don’t want to spend it there. I also don’t think that this makes me the “moral equivalent of Ghandi” or any such thing. I freely admit this is barely even a inconvenience for me; I just shop at Michael’s or A.C. Moore, or Amazon instead. Again, it’s just that it’s my money, and I don’t feel comfortable spending it at Hobby Lobby. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2018, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stores-merchants-you-stopped-business-with-due-to-moral-or-political-reasons/824885/92 "2018-11-23T18:15:35Z")
> [@Corry\_El](#): > > I find the idea of boycotting a store because they close on Sundays as some matter of principal to be way over the line of politicizing everything in life. You can do it, but seems utterly ridiculous to me. It is ridiculous. Which is why conservatives keep saying it. Nobody is boycotting Chik-Fil-A or Hobby Lobby because they close on Sundays. Lots of businesses close on Sundays and nobody boycotts them. People boycott Chik-Fil-A or Hobby Lobby because they have discriminatory practices. Conservatives want to ignore the real issues involved and pretend the boycott is over something silly. ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stores-merchants-you-stopped-business-with-due-to-moral-or-political-reasons/824885/93 "2018-11-23T18:21:31Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Nobody is boycotting Chik-Fil-A or Hobby Lobby because they close on Sundays. It’s a contributing factor mentioned by someone actually boycotting them in this thread. That’s where that piece of the discussion started. > [@BwanaBob](#): > > I despise their policy of being closed on Sundays, and the whole gay treatment episode. ---
**Author:** ![Brayne\_Ded](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Brayne\_Ded](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brayne_Ded)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stores-merchants-you-stopped-business-with-due-to-moral-or-political-reasons/824885/94 "2018-11-23T18:54:10Z")
> [@Royal\_Nonesutch](#): > > I was in Berlin a few days ago, the huge, cosmopolitan capital city of one of the most athiest-leaning countries in the Western World, and trying to find a business establishment other than a hotel or restaurant open on Sunday was virtually impossible, everything from huge supermarkets to tiny souvenir kiosks were shuttered up tight, but somehow the Germans aren’t up in arms about archaic, oppressive religious beliefs infringing on their freedom, but instead seem to believe that a gov’t mandated day off for the vast majority of citizens results in a net positive for society as a whole. I lived in Germany until recently. The big cities seems to have a number of shopping Sundays, about 20-25 a year. The big shops are open, albeit with somewhat shorter hours. If it is not a big city, or not a shopping Sunday, your options are the local station (in a city) or a mini-shop run by Turks (down to nearly the village level). The whole business of extended shopping s-hours in the evening and on Sundays took a lot of flak from the unions, who felt that the staff deserved some time off. The Bavarians might have a more religious attitude, but elsewhere in Germany it is a question of time off, and for the Turks, a way to make more money as the shops are family businesses and the locals they are the only place open in town on Sundays and holidays. ---
**Author:** ![Brayne\_Ded](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Brayne\_Ded](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brayne_Ded)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stores-merchants-you-stopped-business-with-due-to-moral-or-political-reasons/824885/95 "2018-11-23T19:01:41Z")
AFAIK, boycotts have never been effective, even on a national scale. The latest example is the boycott of Russia following the Crimean adventure. On a micro-scale, which is my level of significance, I would like to avoid using Amazon, but all too often there is no alternative. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stores-merchants-you-stopped-business-with-due-to-moral-or-political-reasons/824885/96 "2018-11-23T19:03:00Z")
I didn’t _boycott_ CFA for not being open on Sundays, but I did stop going there for that reason. Their chicken is good enough that I didn’t like being disappointed when I wanted them on a Sunday and couldn’t have them and it was better to just make a clean break. The homophobia only sealed the deal. ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2018, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stores-merchants-you-stopped-business-with-due-to-moral-or-political-reasons/824885/97 "2018-11-23T19:05:41Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > It is ridiculous. Which is why conservatives keep saying it. > > Nobody is boycotting Chik-Fil-A or Hobby Lobby because they close on Sundays. Lots of businesses close on Sundays and nobody boycotts them. People boycott Chik-Fil-A or Hobby Lobby because they have discriminatory practices. > > Conservatives want to ignore the real issues involved and pretend the boycott is over something silly. Closing the business on Sundays is mainly a Christian thing. Visit Japan some time, stores don’t close on Sundays. They close on Mondays, Tuesdays or Wednesdays. (Financial institutions, government offices etc are exceptions.) Closing your business on Sundays can end up being discriminatory against people of other religions. There are lots of non-Christians who are perfectly fine taking Tuesdays off instead of Sunday, for example. At the very least, a store that chooses to close Sundays is stopping those people from having an advantage. Personally I see it as as proselytizing, and makes me not want to patronize their business any time. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stores-merchants-you-stopped-business-with-due-to-moral-or-political-reasons/824885/98 "2018-11-23T19:16:06Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > How do you feel about them refusing to comply with laws requiring them to provide health coverage to their employees? For “religious” reasons. Cite? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2018, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stores-merchants-you-stopped-business-with-due-to-moral-or-political-reasons/824885/99 "2018-11-23T19:18:01Z")
> [@harmonicamoon](#): > > Sorry, I thought my location would give you the nation. > > As for the cite, I don’t know how to copy and paste on this device. > > I googled Walmart and Mexico, and a NY Times article was the first hit. > > “How Walmart used pay-offs to get its way into Mexico “. December 1912. > > Sorry I cannot paste. Wal Mart Bribed Mexican lawmakers? How dare they?:eek: I thought only Drug lords could do that! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Corry\_El](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Corry\_El](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corry_El)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2018, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stores-merchants-you-stopped-business-with-due-to-moral-or-political-reasons/824885/100 "2018-11-23T19:24:28Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > It is ridiculous. Which is why conservatives keep saying it. > > Nobody is boycotting Chik-Fil-A or Hobby Lobby because they close on Sundays. Lots of businesses close on Sundays and nobody boycotts them. People boycott Chik-Fil-A or Hobby Lobby because they have discriminatory practices. > > Conservatives want to ignore the real issues involved and pretend the boycott is over something silly. I was adding to 'Flyer’s respond to this “Originally Posted by BwanaBob View Post I despise their policy of being closed on Sundays, and the whole gay treatment episode.” And since then ‘scr4’ chimed in saying that closing on Sunday is religious proselytizing. It seems we agree it’s ridiculous. But it’s clearly not ‘imagined by conservatives’ unless you’re claiming both of those posts are just trolling ‘conservatives’. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stores-merchants-you-stopped-business-with-due-to-moral-or-political-reasons/824885.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stores-merchants-you-stopped-business-with-due-to-moral-or-political-reasons/824885.md?page=6)