True by and large, but it still did not bring the regime down.
Where’s the middle? Guy is boycotting because they get one set day off a week which corresponds to a Christian holy day. Presumably he is still shopping at stores that don’t give any days off. I suppose that he may only purchase from stores that give one day off that isn’t Sunday and if so, I’m willing to admit there’s a chance of a middle, but I’m also pretty sure that’s not the case.
The stance taken seems to be: I don’t mind workers having serious difficulties due to scheduling, but I do object to companies that make their worker’s lives easier if they do so for religious reasons. If you have a middle option I’m excluding, please share. Otherwise, I stand by my statement that it’s pretty bigoted.
I forgot to mention that in the town I lived in before that, they also had a hole-in-the-wall natural grocery that in this case got a new owner because the old owners were getting up in years and wanted to retire. This new owner tried to sell colon cleanses to every customer :rolleyes: , and was also a practitioner of Eckankar. How did I know that? Well, she wore a necklace with the Eckankar symbol, which is OK, and had a flyer about it on the public bulletin board, which is also OK, but I thought that giant posters all over the store advertising this philosophy was a bit OTT.
That store died a quiet death.
p.s. Around the time that the store was sold, I saw one of the owners at McDonald’s. But hey, she was at least 80 years old, and if you live that long, you can eat anything you want.
This is a stretch, but I refuse to use Steam because of moral principles. I bought some Valve game years and years ago that required Steam to run back in its infancy. It absolutely would not work without Steam, which I saw as a pointless add-on that just took up computer resources in order to give the seller of the game license some peace of mind about pirating. If I buy a single-player game, I shouldn’t need the game company’s permission every time I go to play it.
The thing is, I bought the game with a gift card to a general merchandise store (I can’t remember which one, probably either Meijer or Walmart), and the game was a two-pack that had the only way to buy the game I really wanted to buy from them. So I couldn’t care less about the game I had attempted to play and simply refused to want to deal with the bullshit that they’d put me through. Several years later, as Steam gets to be more and more the way independent publishers release their games, I still refuse to use Steam. If the product is only available through redemption on Steam, I simply don’t buy it. There are way more games from GOG.com available that I’m interested in than I could ever play, and have bought on sale a few more that I’ve never gotten to, much like people report with Steam. This remains a “boycott” of their business model simply because I would have already bought Oxygen Not Included and Europa Universalis 4, among others, I looked heavily into whether I could get them not on Steam, and resigned myself to not getting them (yet) when I couldn’t.
There is at least one other person in this world that I saw on Facebook (or maybe here?) that had the exact same stance. I’m sure that most of GOG’s userbase is people with similar stances, since if you don’t care about Steam bloatware they don’t really do anything better. GOG has their own bloatware that I simply don’t use, and while they offer the feature for automatic updating to sorta compete with Steam, I’d much rather not use it since getting away from bloatware is half the issue. I don’t like when my games automatically update anyway.
It is not an excellent work benefit. I prefer that food workers have as many shifts as possible to work, given the low pay and part-time nature of such jobs. No restaurant schedules randomly; schedules are built around employee availability. An employee can insist they don’t work any specific day; it’s not a problem because many workers are trying to work as many hours as possible.
Not being able to work on Sunday means a worker has less shifts to earn money, so they have to scramble for an additional part time job to earn money for daycare. Food industry workers can work 7 days a week and not even touch 35 hours of labor.
A 6 day work week does not help them. It is a self-imposed blue law for fundamentalist egotism and prosperity pimp virtue signalling. It is literally a way to say “I am holier than thou.”
I boycott CFA because of the LGBT issue, I respect the right to be closed whenever. But I don’t buy into compassionate conservative talking points.
Heh, never work in the service industry? They schedule you when they schedule you and sometimes they ask and sometimes they tell. My daughter just got hit with an extended four hour shift on Saturday that they told her about on Friday night. Service workers are effectively powerless entities. Earlier this year at Walmart, she had a wedding she was in and asked for the day off three months in advance and they still scheduled her that day and wrote her up when she didn’t come in. Any worker I have ever talked to that worked at Chik-Fil-A (to be fair, I only know maybe a half dozen, so it’s not representative) has mentioned having Sundays off as a benefit. The fact that they recruit specifically mentioning it as a benefit leads me to believe that your theory that workers don’t want it is perhaps untrue.
Lots of places are closed on Sundays. I won’t boycott a place for that reason.
I avoid Chick Fil A for their rightwing policies. Ditto Hobby Lobby though that’s empty as there isn’t one near me, and I rarely need crafty supplies. I won’t donate to Salvation Army for similar reasons, which is a shame - despite their policies, they DO do some good in the world :(.
That’s great that you prefer that they have as many shifts as possible to work. Does it matter to you that many of them prefer to have a steady day off *, rather than having their five shifts totaling 30 or fewer hours spread over any of the 7 days? It’s not like most employees would pick up an extra shift if the restaurant was open Sundays.
I wonder how many people you know who work in service industries if you think “an employee can insist they don’t work any specific day”? They might be able to - or they might be scheduled for times they are unavailable or even not hired or fired because they aren’t available Wednesday night.
- you can’t just look at it as how many want Sunday specifically off. Always being off on Sunday also pleases people who want a steady weekend day off or people who just want the same day off every week and don’t care which one.
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I sued to buy things from the BUDK catalog. Cool stuff for like knives. But I noticed they were selling some Nazi stuff which at first I considered harmless like SS daggers and German helmets. Oh and some Confederate flag stuff. Then they started selling Hitler and Goebbels figurines and I realized they were targetting skinheads.
Never bought from them again.
As others, never been to a Chik-fil-a, and can’t remember last time at Hobby Lobby. I strongly prefer that my merchants keep their personal philosophies out of their businesses. (Which I guess is hypocritical of me, in that I might tend to use a merchant that was outwardly nontheistic, or extremely liberal.)
In response to the OP, there was one local jeweler that my wife and I shopped at more than once, until we noticed their annual ads proclaiming that “Jesus is the reason for the season.” Plenty of other jewelers to whom we could give our business.
I generally do use GoG Galaxy and it’s got nowhere near the footprint of Steam’s client. It’s like “sparrow footprint vs. elephant assprint”. Plus, they allowed me to “recover” (ok, for a fee, but a fee which I found reasonable) a bunch of the games I used to play back when they were new.
Out of genuine curiosity, do those of you who “boycott” a business because of Christian beliefs also refuse to do business with establishments that identify as kosher delis, halal food purveyors, etc.? I’m neither Jewish nor Muslim, but will eat/shop in places where the owners identify as such.
Is that really a suitable comparison? Don’t the terms “kosher” and “halal” say something specific about the product/service being offered? As opposed to chicken sandwiches or hobby supplies?
As I acknowledged, I probably am hypocritical, as a political/social statement I agreed with might minimally increase the likelihood of by giving them a business my custom.
To me, “Jewish deli” signifies a certain type of food. However, if they loudly publicized positions on Mideast relations I did not agree with, or suggested the US out to assume certain postures in support of such positions, I probably would decide to eat elsewhere.
Same as if a Halal grocery/restaurant promoted some policy I did not support. Generally, I’ll take my food without a side of politics (or - to be honest - without a side of politics I personally disfavor!) I imagine some folk might choose NOT to shop at Bennetton - or some “socially/environmentally conscious” vendors. That is their choice.
I can totally understand that stance. For instance, if my local Muslim-owned green grocer were to hang a sign that said, “The Revelation of the Quran is the reason for Ramadan.” I’d never set foot in that piece of crap’s establishment again. Oh, wait a minute, I misspoke, I meant to say that that’s not a political or social statement at all and I’d buy my veggies there just as I always have because I’m not an anti-religious bigot.
Using “kosher” in signage strongly implies that the establishment is catering primarily to Jewish clientele, just as “halal” to Muslim - it literally means the food served/sold is prepared according to the tenets of a particular religion. It’s no different to me than the sign “Jesus is the reason…” being interpreted “we cater to a Christian clientele”. YMMV.
In any case, all of those words indicate that the owner is either:
A) a member or supporter of that religion, or
B) willing to make money of it’s adherents, regardless of personal beliefs.
In most cases, it says nothing discernable about individual employees.
Hah! Definitely been called worse! ![]()
I ate and enjoyed Chick fil a sandwiches before I was aware of their homophobia; I haven’t been to one in years. And we finally have a Hobby Lobby in the area, making my boycott of them official. The misogyny veiled as ‘religious freedom’ was bad enough, but the purchase of stolen artifacts was just nasty (isn’t there something in their ‘sincerely held religious beliefs’ about not stealing?). I’ll go to Michael’s or specialty stores online, thanks.
From my perspective, when a business goes out of its way to ‘wear religion on their shirtsleeves’ – whether it’s by plastering Bible verses on their marquee or preaching during their seasonal TV commercials – I’ve always taken this as an indicator that I’m not really welcome in their establishment if I’m not in lockstep with their religious beliefs. I guess this is a byproduct of growing up in rural North Carolina? It’s never occurred to me to view being closed on Sunday as an explicitly religious thing unless the business makes a really big deal out of it… for instance, the giant “MEET US IN CHURCH ON SUNDAY” sign that loomed over the checkouts in the local Piggly Wiggly.
I get a bit curious about this point of view. A lot of people decry why can’t Christians be more like Jesus?!! And, I’ll agree, being anti-LGBTQ is not very Jesus like, but having a stated day off, in an industry that generally doesn’t provide a common day off and demands employees come in with very short notice on days they thought they had off, all the while paying your employees higher than the minimum wage, seem to be pretty Jesus like to me. Having fantastic customer service also seems to go towards that mission.
No, unfortunately when a company pisses me off, it turns out I was not a customer in the first place.
I think that only thing that I am boycotting that would fit the OP, is Brawny paper towels. I would normally buy whichever paper towel was on sale, but since learning that its a Koch product, I try to find something else.
I’ve also quit watching the Local Washington DC NFL team, partially in protest due to their name, but if I’m realistic it probably has more to do with the fact that they aren’t doing so well and I’m usually doing something else on Sunday.
I’d know I should probably boycott Amazon, but they are so damn convenient and I’m weak. 