# Stormfronters here

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stormfronters-here/655496>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 12, 2013, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stormfronters-here/655496 "2013-04-12T12:49:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stormfronters-here/655496/81 "2013-04-15T10:33:00Z")

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And that **AssemblyLineHuman** creature is back again. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stormfronters-here/655496/82 "2013-04-15T10:42:08Z")

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What those posters attempting to engage debate with those racist jackasses fail to realize is that, while the Straight Dope’s stated mission to eradicate ignorance is wonderful, those racist jackasses are not simply ignorant. They are willingly and determinedly stupid. There is no debate with such.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stormfronters-here/655496/83 "2013-04-15T11:11:42Z")

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As is often mentioned when these things crop up, we continue these debates in the face of persistant ignorance because:

1. these arguments shouldn’t remain uncountered;
2. it’s good practice for when you encounter them elsewhere, particularly if the next perpetrator is better at arguing his case;
3. it informs lurkers who would otherwise only see one side of the story; and
4. [this](http://xkcd.com/386/).

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stormfronters-here/655496/84 "2013-04-15T11:53:31Z")

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I still think banishment to a parallel universe makes sense.

Let the guys with goatees worry about them.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stormfronters-here/655496/85 "2013-04-15T11:57:52Z")

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The Goateed Guys would probably just send them back. With a note of complaint.

"Hey, we’re _evil._ Not _stupid."_

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stormfronters-here/655496/86 "2013-04-15T14:20:32Z")

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“Mr. Stormfronter, your Agonizer® please.”

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stormfronters-here/655496/87 "2013-04-15T17:45:28Z")

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As long as nobody mixes the white socks with the colored socks…or we would be laundering the white socks out of existence.😉

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stormfronters-here/655496/88 "2013-04-15T18:05:05Z")

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We’re not MONSTERS!

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stormfronters-here/655496/89 "2013-04-15T18:48:55Z")

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> [@Darth\_Panda](#):
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> Let the guys with goatees worry about them.

> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#):
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> As long as nobody mixes the white socks with the colored socks…or we would be laundering the white socks out of existence.😉

I _so_ misread these lines.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stormfronters-here/655496/90 "2013-04-15T20:21:31Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> So you are saying that instead of banning them, we should have a script that directs their accounts to a parallel version of this board populated by bots?
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> “Parallel”? Actually, there are only six real live Dopers. And you know perfectly well you are not one of them. :dubious:

Wait, shit. Am I? How would I know?

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stormfronters-here/655496/91 "2013-04-15T20:52:14Z")

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Apparently, there was a meeting a few years ago where it was decided that then-current methods were not winning any converts and a few were instructed with new debate philosophies before being tossed, much like young Mormon boys into a gentile neighborhood, into the message board frays around the inter webs.

I keep running across the same format from them: coyly dancing around the real credo, refusing to lose their tempers, pounding and pounding at one little point which, if they can _just win_, will cause all the rest of us to fall into place. I wonder if they came up with the tactic themselves or hired an outside consultant?

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**Author:** ![Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b38774/32.png) [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Attack_from_the_3rd_dimension)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stormfronters-here/655496/92 "2013-04-15T21:45:42Z")

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Maybe they hired [Aryan Consulting.](http://www.aryanconsulting.com/)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stormfronters-here/655496/93 "2013-04-15T22:46:01Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> Wait, shit. Am I? How would I know?

It’s either in the third line in your code, or tattooed on the back of your neck.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2013, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stormfronters-here/655496/94 "2013-04-15T22:50:06Z")

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> [@Red\_Wiggler](#):
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> Apparently, there was a meeting a few years ago where it was decided that then-current methods were not winning any converts and a few were instructed with new debate philosophies before being tossed, much like young Mormon boys into a gentile neighborhood, into the message board frays around the inter webs.
> 
> I keep running across the same format from them: coyly dancing around the real credo, refusing to lose their tempers, pounding and pounding at one little point which, if they can _just win_, will cause all the rest of us to fall into place. I wonder if they came up with the tactic themselves or hired an outside consultant?

Or maybe they [just](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Concern_troll) [did](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/JAQing_off) a [bit](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Big_lie) of [basic](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/PRATT) [research](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_gallop).

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**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stormfronters-here/655496/95 "2013-04-16T00:07:12Z")

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Oh I lurk their site from time to time, even registered and introduced myself as a Filipino. A lot of it is redneck griping and false science. But the purely observational issues make some sense. There is no denying that American media can sometimes make an ordinary white man angry, or at least scratch his head.

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**Author:** ![Carl\_Corey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Carl\_Corey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carl_Corey)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stormfronters-here/655496/96 "2013-04-16T00:46:30Z")

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Why stormfront? Is it a reference to Hitler’s stormtroopers? As I recall, things didn’t turn out so well for Ernst and his boys.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stormfronters-here/655496/97 "2013-04-16T01:05:33Z")

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A faggit noob.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stormfronters-here/655496/98 "2013-04-16T01:10:05Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> It’s either in the third line in your code, or tattooed on the back of your neck.

Ah, so \*that’s \* what that is.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stormfronters-here/655496/99 "2013-04-16T14:32:35Z")

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> [@Carl\_Corey](#):
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> Why stormfront? Is it a reference to Hitler’s stormtroopers? As I recall, things didn’t turn out so well for Ernst and his boys.

[Read all about it](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_(website)) without actually visiting the website. Although, it can be an entertaining romp through the minds of the mentally maladjusted.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2013, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stormfronters-here/655496/100 "2013-04-16T15:19:57Z")

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> [@the\_diego](#):
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> Oh I lurk their site from time to time, even registered and introduced myself as a Filipino. A lot of it is redneck griping and false science. But the purely observational issues make some sense. There is no denying that American media can sometimes make an ordinary white man angry, or at least scratch his head.

Well, don’t forget who actually runs the media: Not reporters in shirtsleeves, not editors in eyeshades, but MBAs in suits. Most of them are white and most of them are men.

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