# Straight Dope mentioned in Canada's National Newspaper -- Bibliophage snubbed.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-mentioned-in-canadas-national-newspaper-bibliophage-snubbed/248490>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 3, 2004, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-mentioned-in-canadas-national-newspaper-bibliophage-snubbed/248490 "2004-06-03T19:42:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-mentioned-in-canadas-national-newspaper-bibliophage-snubbed/248490/1 "2004-06-03T19:42:03Z")

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Today my breakfast ritual of interfacing with print media while consuming caffeine and greasy breakfast included a nice treat – the print organ to which I have a dedication which borders on religiosity mentioned a column for which my enthusiasm has ventured exactly 7.6Km into the Zealot Territories.

[This column](http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPPrint/LAC/20040603/HPICARD03/TPHealth/) in the Health section of the prestigious _Globe & Mail_ uses a recent Straight Dope column as a starting point from which to approach the topic of how we deal with our own Elders in the Mostly-Frozen-But-Sometimes-Sweltering North:

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> The quirky, popular syndicated column Straight Dope recently examined the legend that the “Eskimos” put their old people on ice floes and set them adrift. Author Cecil Adams said “senilicide” (the killing of old people) did occur during severe famines, but the last recorded case was in 1939, and even before that it was a rarity.
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> “The common perception of taking granny out to the nearest ice floe and setting her adrift is wrong.”
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> But the common belief that granny is a lot better off today than in the mythically cruel Arctic of old may be equally wrong.
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> In fact, there is ample evidence that senilicide is more common in our wealthy, modern Canadian society than it ever was in Inuit society. We don’t set our elders adrift on ice floes, but we do the modern equivalent: We drug them into icy oblivion.

Of course, the author of [that column](http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/meskimoicefloe.html) is our own Bibliophage.

Jeez, a bit of a sting to have your work misattributed in such a widely-read publication, but on the other hand – _mistaken for the Perfect Master himself!_ I’m not sure I’d know exactly how to feel about that, myself.

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-mentioned-in-canadas-national-newspaper-bibliophage-snubbed/248490/2 "2004-06-03T20:06:04Z")

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Congratulations, **Bibliophage** … I think.

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**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-mentioned-in-canadas-national-newspaper-bibliophage-snubbed/248490/3 "2004-06-03T20:12:05Z")

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You’re both overlooking the more elegant solution.

**bibliophage** and **Cecil Adams** are the same person. Cecil’s just, y’know, slumming under an assumed name, kind of like when J. Random Senator visits the brothel. The Globe and Mail just picked up on it faster than we did.

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-mentioned-in-canadas-national-newspaper-bibliophage-snubbed/248490/4 "2004-06-03T20:49:37Z")

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> [@lno](#):
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> You’re both overlooking the more elegant solution.
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> **bibliophage** and **Cecil Adams** are the same person. **Cecil’s just, y’know, slumming under an assumed name** , …

Bolding is mine.

Uh, I doubt that **bib** will take this as a compliment. :eek:

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**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-mentioned-in-canadas-national-newspaper-bibliophage-snubbed/248490/5 "2004-06-03T21:12:30Z")

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> [@samclem](#):
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> Uh, I doubt that **bib** will take this as a compliment. :eek:

The whole ‘brothel’ thing was a typo. I meant to say “kind of like when God dresses up as Gabriel and hangs out with the angels.”

The keys are, like, right next to each other.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Bo\_Peep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ea5d25/32.png) [@Little\_Bo\_Peep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Bo_Peep)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-mentioned-in-canadas-national-newspaper-bibliophage-snubbed/248490/6 "2004-06-03T21:18:28Z")

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> [@lno](#):
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> The whole ‘brothel’ thing was a typo. I meant to say “kind of like when God dresses up as Gabriel and hangs out with the angels.”
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> The keys are, like, right next to each other.

Hehehehe…

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2004, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-mentioned-in-canadas-national-newspaper-bibliophage-snubbed/248490/7 "2004-06-03T21:47:26Z")

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> [@lno](#):
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> You’re both overlooking the more elegant solution.
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> **bibliophage** and **Cecil Adams** are the same person.

Let’s hope not. We all know the rule about socks.

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**Author:** ![Chairman\_Pow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Chairman\_Pow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chairman_Pow)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2004, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-mentioned-in-canadas-national-newspaper-bibliophage-snubbed/248490/8 "2004-06-04T00:43:12Z")

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> [@Tapioca Dextrin](#):
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> Let’s hope not. We all know the rule about socks.

[Tree socks?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=259657)

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**Author:** ![bibliophage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bibliophage/32/7615_2.png) [@bibliophage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bibliophage)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2004, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-mentioned-in-canadas-national-newspaper-bibliophage-snubbed/248490/9 "2004-06-04T11:36:42Z")

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I don’t know what to say.

I’m pretty sure I’m not Cecil. Then again there was that time I woke up in a brothel with a terrible hangover and no memory of how I got there. I guess anything is possible.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2004, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-mentioned-in-canadas-national-newspaper-bibliophage-snubbed/248490/10 "2004-06-04T14:32:53Z")

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> [@bibliophage](#):
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> I don’t know what to say.
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> I’m pretty sure I’m not Cecil. Then again there was that time I woke up in a brothel with a terrible hangover and no memory of how I got there. I guess anything is possible.

Was there a dead hooker next to you? Somebody call the Corleone family.

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**Author:** ![Philster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Philster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philster)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2004, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-mentioned-in-canadas-national-newspaper-bibliophage-snubbed/248490/11 "2004-06-04T14:56:31Z")

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Watch it. Corleone family. Italian gangsters…I get it.

😃

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**Author:** ![Salem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8c91f0/32.png) [@Salem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Salem)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2004, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-mentioned-in-canadas-national-newspaper-bibliophage-snubbed/248490/12 "2004-06-04T15:01:47Z")

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That’s too bad, **Phlster**. Now we’re going to have to kill you. \*  
\*in that virtual, kidding, not a serious threat sort of way, of course, mods.

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**Author:** ![Philster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Philster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philster)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2004, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-mentioned-in-canadas-national-newspaper-bibliophage-snubbed/248490/13 "2004-06-04T15:40:33Z")

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Just as long as you don’t set me adrift on a sheet of ice. Send me down with my ancestors via the cement shoes method.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2004, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-mentioned-in-canadas-national-newspaper-bibliophage-snubbed/248490/14 "2004-06-04T18:04:57Z")

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> [@Philster](#):
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> Watch it. Corleone family. Italian gangsters…I get it.

Cecil _can’t_ be connected. His name doesn’t end in a vowel.

(Where’s the nervous smiley?)

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**Author:** ![Salem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8c91f0/32.png) [@Salem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Salem)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2004, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-mentioned-in-canadas-national-newspaper-bibliophage-snubbed/248490/15 "2004-06-04T22:57:55Z")

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Psst. Dontcha know, **Larry**? Have ya ever looked in the water around Ellis Island? It’s like alphabet soup out there. Cecil_iano_ could tell ya, if he was talkin’. Never reveal what I’ve told ya here.

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**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2004, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-mentioned-in-canadas-national-newspaper-bibliophage-snubbed/248490/16 "2004-06-04T23:18:04Z")

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Does that mean that we have to refer to The Master as Don Cecil ?
