# Straight Dope Remediation (Get In Here!)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-remediation-get-in-here/107899>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 8, 2002, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-remediation-get-in-here/107899 "2002-05-08T14:23:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-remediation-get-in-here/107899/81 "2002-05-10T09:51:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by London\_Calling \*  
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> Yep. Somewhere between speed-reading and dyslexia, I definitely had Harry Potter on the Supremes. \*\*

I don’t remember a kid singing with Diana Ross.

Perhaps it was hidden with the harmonies.

Thank you. I’m hear all week. Try the Veal.

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-remediation-get-in-here/107899/82 "2002-05-10T09:53:47Z")

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I think we don’t really have to worry until the Four Tops start blowing up abortion clinics.

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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-remediation-get-in-here/107899/83 "2002-05-10T10:05:23Z")

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Would that be a Temptation ?

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**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-remediation-get-in-here/107899/84 "2002-05-10T10:29:00Z")

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Not in yo’ town. Only in mo’ town.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-remediation-get-in-here/107899/85 "2002-05-10T10:58:58Z")

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**kabbes** , re my comment about self-abuse on the previous page: of course I was joking, silly billy.

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**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-remediation-get-in-here/107899/86 "2002-05-10T11:19:55Z")

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Phew! Thought so.

Deadpan is sometimes tough in this medium. And I don’t always like to make an ass out of you and umption.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-remediation-get-in-here/107899/87 "2002-05-10T11:26:50Z")

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**JColdfire** as an American, I would like to point out that Slavery was fully and completely legal in the USA for many years. We look back on those times with shame and regret for treating human beings as if they were something less.

Some abortion opponents and animal rights activists feel similarly about the unborn and animals. They feel that in a more enlightened future, we will look back on today with shame and regret for the horrors being perpetrated against these groups.

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-remediation-get-in-here/107899/88 "2002-05-10T11:32:26Z")

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I understand, Cheesesteak. Society’s values change over time.  
And who knows, maybe abortions WILL one day be universally considered primitive and inhumane. But in some societies, this is clearly not the the case today.

Back to our Bad Motown Puns Fest, already in progress.

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-remediation-get-in-here/107899/89 "2002-05-10T11:34:10Z")

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Oh, and of course, there are those who would still own slaves today if they had the opportunity. YMMV. It’s the _majority_ of Americans that look back in shame at slavery, just like the majority of Americans felt A-OK about it 200 years ago. And that was precisely my point.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-remediation-get-in-here/107899/90 "2002-05-10T11:41:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Coldfire \*  
> \*\*Let me state it once and for all: **anyone** who uses an analogy which is competely disproportional (for example, compring the Holocaust to owning a leather couch, or even in an abortion debate) to the case they are putting forward with the sole purpose of supporting their own agenda, **is a fucking idiot**.

I like to think there’s a difference between _being_ an idiot and occasionally _acting like_ an idiot.

But then, I’m not to bright…

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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-remediation-get-in-here/107899/91 "2002-05-10T13:25:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Coldfire \*  
> Back to our Bad Motown Puns Fest, already in progress.

Nah, it was just your imagination, running awwwwway…

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-remediation-get-in-here/107899/92 "2002-05-10T13:46:27Z")

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**STOP** in the name of looooove

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**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-remediation-get-in-here/107899/93 "2002-05-10T14:22:50Z")

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Mermaid, continued sniping, in the remediation thread of all places, is a bit gauche. This is the second time you have accused me of misquoting you. There is still an invitation for you to indicate exactly where you were misquoted in your original thread. I’m sure the moderators would take substantiated claims of misquoting quite seriously, so I would encourage you to put forth the effort.

“I spent a good part of yesterday trying to convince people that it is just not a good idea to have sex with the family pooch.” - mermaid

Hopefully I’m not the only one genuinely curious which dopers have been arguing against you from a pro-bestiality stance. Once again you are invited to name these people and indicate precisely were they took this position. Don’t let the fact that I don’t believe them to exist and feel that you merely like flinging the accusation about slanderously stop you.

Dropping a subject normally does not involve hijacking someone else’s thread to rehash it. Just thought you should know.

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**Author:** ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-remediation-get-in-here/107899/94 "2002-05-10T14:31:50Z")

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> _White Lightening_  
> So, is no one going to point out that the word we’re all looking for is actually ‘mediation’? When I opened this thread I thought it was going to be like a review session for posters that had been ‘left back’.

Nah, it was a lovely choice of words. The building in which I work is currently being attended to by the _industrial remediators_. It’s a functional enough building for the most part, but of late chunks of the concrete façade have been falling off endangering the heads of passers by.

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**Author:** ![The\_Mermaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@The\_Mermaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mermaid)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-remediation-get-in-here/107899/95 "2002-05-10T15:05:59Z")

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> _Originally posted by Waverly \*  
> Mermaid, continued sniping, in the remediation thread of all places, is a bit gauche._\* This is the second time you have accused me of misquoting you. There is still an invitation for you to indicate exactly where you were misquoted in your original thread. I’m sure the moderators would take substantiated claims of misquoting quite seriously, so I would encourage you to put forth the effort.\*\*
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> Dropping a subject normally does not involve hijacking someone else’s thread to rehash it. Just thought you should know.

Waverly you read and responded to the post where I asked you to not misquote me and twist my words around to suit your argument. Perhaps you should read it again. I also copied my original quote and your interpretation of said quote and asked how you derived your paraphrasing of it. I hope Mods do take substantiated claims of misquoting quite seriously because it is you who is doing the misquoting and you are one of two who are hijacking this thread and trying to bait me into responding to a thread that I feel has run its course. I will not respond to being baited.

Now stop doing exactly what you are acusing me of and either start your _own_ thread or leave me the fuck alone.

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**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-remediation-get-in-here/107899/96 "2002-05-10T15:12:24Z")

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😕 Is it just me?

[sub]BTW, paraphrasing, particularly when you state that is what you are doing and ask for clarification, is a far cry from misquoting[/sub]

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**Author:** ![The\_Mermaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@The\_Mermaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mermaid)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-remediation-get-in-here/107899/97 "2002-05-10T16:01:50Z")

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From Mirriem-Webster online dictionary

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> Main Entry: 1para·phrase  
> Pronunciation: 'par-&-"frAz  
> Function: noun  
> Etymology: Middle French, from Latin paraphrasis, from Greek, from paraphrazein to paraphrase, from para- + phrazein to point out  
> Date: 1548  
> 1 : a restatement of a text, passage, or work giving the meaning in another form  
> 2 : the use or process of paraphrasing in studying or teaching composition

Paraphrasing done correctly restates the original meaning reworded in a way that makes it more clear.

Your interpretation of my statement was in no way related to what I said but instead a way for you to make a pissy little comment and attribute it to me. That is misquoting pure and simple.

So yeah it is just you.

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**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-remediation-get-in-here/107899/98 "2002-05-10T20:44:07Z")

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Mermaid, you asked to have your embarrassing thread closed without adequately making your points there. I consider that complete acquiescence, and attempting to renew your arguments in the threads of others to be cowardly and rude.

I will not participate in further hijacking of this thread. My apologies, all.

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**Author:** ![The\_Mermaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@The\_Mermaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mermaid)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-remediation-get-in-here/107899/99 "2002-05-10T21:23:22Z")

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:rolleyes:

**Waverly** I asked for that thread to be closed because I am sick to death of dealing with your foolish ass.

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> I consider that complete acquiescence, and attempting to renew your arguments in the threads of others to be cowardly and rude.

I consider that comment to be the most ludacris thing I have ever read. The only thing I have acquiesced is the fact that you are too stupid to realize what a fucking hypocrite you are.

You consider my argument inadequate because you lack the mental ability to understand what I am saying,

You misquote me and then warn me about the dangers of misquoting others

You continually attempt to renew your argument in the threads of others

You hijack the mediation thread with an opinion on how cowardly and rude it is to hijack a thread.

But since you have apologized for your behavior I will take the high road and accept your apology on the condition that you live up to your promise to not participate further in the hijacking of this thread.

Now run along and pester someone else. I am tired of suffering fools.

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**Author:** ![The\_Ryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7feea3/32.png) [@The\_Ryan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ryan)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2002, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-remediation-get-in-here/107899/100 "2002-05-10T22:07:22Z")

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> I spent a good part of yesterday trying to convince people that it is just not a good idea to have sex with the family pooch.

That’s a direct quote, no paraphrasing. It is clearly implied that the main issue of contention was whether it is a good idea have have sex with dogs, which is false (that is, “the main issue of contention was whether it is a good idea to have sex with dogs” is false"). It is also false that posting in a thread to make controversial statements about another thread constitutes “dropping” that issue.

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