# Straight Dope - The Defender of Free Speech? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 6, 2003, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-the-defender-of-free-speech/147028 "2003-01-06T22:08:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2003, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-the-defender-of-free-speech/147028/21 "2003-01-06T23:59:18Z")
> [@](#): > > We will keep us to the Pit. OK? Mostly curse the System and Saddam! Never ever the middle-class and their behaviour, their analfabetism. I curse you, middle class, and your insufferable analfabetism. There, happy now? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-the-defender-of-free-speech/147028/22 "2003-01-07T00:06:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Henry B \* > \*\*I just used ‘Jew’ to explain that if some one did be so against Jews, as the guy told in his story (third person naturally), and the second guy (Sparticus) would condemd it, he (Sparticus) would not have been banned in any forum! > \*\* Bullshit, **Henry**. You’ve been around long enough to get an idea of how things work around here. Other posters have explained to you what really happened. As always, contrasting opinions or arguments bounce off you with no effect.\* \*“We need more power to **Henry’s** shields, Captain! Logic is threatening to penetrate!!” ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-the-defender-of-free-speech/147028/23 "2003-01-07T00:07:08Z")
> [@](#): > > It’s just me. > Think that I buy a house in a nice neighbourhood. Then the next house on the left is bought by some niggers/gypsies/Iraqian/American blacs/American white fundamentalists/ brown fundamentalists and the house on my right likevise. Well, I can interpret this in two ways. One, you’re being sarcastic and implying that I would be upset if I bought a nice house in a nice neighborhood, and then people of color moved in next door. You are incorrect, sir. I would only be upset if my new neighbors were rotten jerks. I can also interpret this to mean that you are serious, and are a racist. You realize that this is wrong and are working to correct it. I think a lot of people on this message board can relate to that; they were raised by racists, and had to unlearn these prejudices. If this is the case, I think we can applaud your efforts. But please do not project your own problems onto everyone else. ---
**Author:** ![Henry\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/d78d45/32.png) [@Henry\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Henry_B)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-the-defender-of-free-speech/147028/24 "2003-01-07T00:12:28Z")
**Dead Badger** “Jewish anti-black racist”??? Jewish non-black racists = A white Jew that is racist? That is a little bit too much even for my soul. I know that: - a Finn can be a racist - a Jew can be likevise - an Arab can be - Shakespeare could have been - a Russian is a racist, not all of them - an American is a racist, not all of them but that a minority that has been kicked around can be racist… Well, I call it just common hate to those in power that do not understand the needs/opportunities a minority needs/can give. I am a Finn-Swede by the way, 6% of the national majority. That explains nothing, I know. Let me just explain: I think, or in realiy know, that you, you middle-class morons that believes in what ever the mass-media is feeding you, are just pure simpeltons. The Finn-Swedes, the Jews are much above your class. Simply; the minorities knows better! And I despise my white race! Because you think you are someone. You, yes we, are rapers, killers of the worst sort. Just read the history, how many times did the guys, the black guys come to your Sommerset-house and raped your/our wifes? And how many times did we not go south and “make them blond/less black?” Summa Summarum: **Jackmannii** I do know You do not love me, but let’s try to get along. ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-the-defender-of-free-speech/147028/25 "2003-01-07T00:22:25Z")
Henry, one of us is clearly a moron because I don’t have a fucking clue what you’re on about. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-the-defender-of-free-speech/147028/26 "2003-01-07T00:24:16Z")
**HenryB** ’s breath smells like **Bj0rn** -food. Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Henry\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/d78d45/32.png) [@Henry\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Henry_B)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-the-defender-of-free-speech/147028/27 "2003-01-07T00:25:29Z")
**Kyla** This is meant like a joke. If I and Chumsky did buy your neighbouring houses… And If You are not a racists, like 99,99% of us others, I can only ask for your forgivness. Henry ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-the-defender-of-free-speech/147028/28 "2003-01-07T00:27:04Z")
I think perhaps Henry needs to lie down with a cool cloth over his eyes for a few minutes. ---
**Author:** ![Henry\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/d78d45/32.png) [@Henry\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Henry_B)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-the-defender-of-free-speech/147028/29 "2003-01-07T00:32:12Z")
**Dead Badger** Nice that You admit it. But usually You post a post, that have mor than one or two sentences. Do not join that club, they have the bad habit to not even master their second sentence. As seen some post above. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-the-defender-of-free-speech/147028/30 "2003-01-07T00:32:15Z")
**Henry B** , as others have pointed out, altering a person’s words in a quote is a violation of board rules. You may explain why you did so, or you may quit posting on this message board. I await your email. You have 36 hours to email me before you are banned. Lynn For the Straight Dope ---
**Author:** ![Rysdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7cd45c/32.png) [@Rysdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysdad)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-the-defender-of-free-speech/147028/31 "2003-01-07T00:35:41Z")
Ok, who ran the icelandic guy through the confuserizer? ---
**Author:** ![Henry\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/d78d45/32.png) [@Henry\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Henry_B)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-the-defender-of-free-speech/147028/32 "2003-01-07T00:38:16Z")
**Lynn Bodoni** Can I not answer right here, why the E-mail. I will begin to write just now, and post the answer within an hour or so, depending on the Russian/American links. OK? Henry If this is not approppriate, I will open my link within an hour or so, depending…, not on the US side, but… and I will answer. OK? ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-the-defender-of-free-speech/147028/33 "2003-01-07T00:51:07Z")
I, apologise. For the future I will make most efforts to be writing more than one sentence but, I hope you realise that not all can hope to obtain such unusually analfabetic syntax as yourself without, many of the months of trying. Back to raping and pillaging for me. Are you having the wife? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-the-defender-of-free-speech/147028/34 "2003-01-07T00:53:08Z")
Thanks **Lynn** , for taking a step toward finally shaking some sense into this yoyo. **Henry B** , will you please please please find someone who can translate these posts to Finnish for you? Every thread you post to turns into a comedy of errors, and it’s BECAUSE YOU DON’T FUCKING UNDERSTAND ENGLISH. At least ten posters carefully explained to you why **IAS** was banned, so why do you persist in posting these nonsensical rebuttals? [Chris Rock, loudly] DO YOUUUUUU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH? [Chris Rock] ---
**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-the-defender-of-free-speech/147028/35 "2003-01-07T00:57:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by El\_Kabong \* > > [Chris Rock, loudly] > > DO YOUUUUUU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH? > > [Chris Rock] Wasn’t that Chris Tucker? ---
**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-the-defender-of-free-speech/147028/36 "2003-01-07T00:58:42Z")
Heh, I believe that was Chris Tucker, not Chris Rock, in ‘Rush Hour’, you closet racist! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-the-defender-of-free-speech/147028/37 "2003-01-07T01:13:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lynn Bodoni \* > \*\ ***Henry B** , as others have pointed out, altering a person’s words in a quote is a violation of board rules. You may explain why you did so, or you may quit posting on this message board. I await your email. You have 36 hours to email me before you are banned. > > Lynn > For the Straight Dope \*\* Now pardon me if this is inappropriate or something that is also against the rules, but I just want to be clear about something. Is the rule in question is the one that I have quoted below: > [@](#): > > misquoting > Falsely attributing a quote to another user, or modifying another’s post in order to cast him/her in a bad light, even if meant in jest, is grounds for revocation of your posting privileges. This does not apply to parodies to which no name is attached. > > Be aware that for legal reasons we do not edit posts, except to rectify coding errors or remove unacceptable links - changes that do not require editorial judgment on our part. We will delete offensive posts on request if we feel deletion is warranted, or delete the thread if removal of the offending post would render the thread meaningless. > > We appreciate your cooperation. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-the-defender-of-free-speech/147028/38 "2003-01-07T01:14:22Z")
I stand corrected. I’ll head back to my closet now. ---
**Author:** ![Henry\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/d78d45/32.png) [@Henry\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Henry_B)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-the-defender-of-free-speech/147028/39 "2003-01-07T01:16:15Z")
**Lynn Bodoni** So You are from Texas. Obviously I should have a very good defense. I have not. 1. I apologize if I have, by taking some other texts, into an appropriate use. My apologies to the original writer. 2. I thought that everything we write here is more or less, not copyrighted, because some Chicago-paper can use it as it wish. That is the main reason I only publish here my thoughts, not my publishing material. 3. I could have used only the most inflammatory texts, but is that right, because the original writer, as I understand it, want to give us a whole picture. I did not use the text to personal benefit, as You can see from the answers of the common. 4. Furthermore; I have in reality been reading the rules of this board quite “letter by letter’, but I have to admit, reading in the sense; “What is my rights?” Anyhow, if I have been against/crossed Your rules, I hope that You can take the Good Rule as Your Judging Rule: “You can make a mistake once, but doing the same mistake twice, will show that You are a fool.” Anyhow, I am very much for copyrights, and I ask forgiveness for not going by the book in this case. I am sorry. But only about what I have done (or wronged). I still hope that our combat companion from 73 BC, can come back. And why not, if we have learned a lesson today, do You just throw the lesson away? Or what do You think? And what does the original writer think? I would appreciate Your answers. Thank You for reading. P.S. If there is some unanswered questions, I will haste to answer them, when You put them to my knowledge. Henry Anyhow, may I keep my beliefs that the middle class is just …, just … stupid? And that my abandoned friend from 73 BC, and Chumsky is much over average? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2003, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-the-defender-of-free-speech/147028/40 "2003-01-07T01:18:26Z")
**Henry B.** , some friendly advice: Perhaps you should not get involved in serious debates here until your English skills improve dramatically. I’m not trying to insult you, here: I know how hard it is to acquire a second language. That’s why I only speak the one. But you really don’t have the skills in English to make any sort of a coherent argument, at least if this thread is anything to go by. Maybe you should stick to MPSIMS for a year or so. Wait until you have the tools necessary to express yourself before you go broaching sensitive subjects, like race, on these boards. Because right now, I have no idea what point you’re trying to make, and am left with a vague impression that you’re anti-semitic. But I might be mis-reading you as badly as you seem to have mis-read **Scylla**. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-the-defender-of-free-speech/147028.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-dope-the-defender-of-free-speech/147028.md?page=3)