# Straight Males and Homosexual Experimentation **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 22, 2003, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-males-and-homosexual-experimentation/190095 "2003-07-22T05:32:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2010, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-males-and-homosexual-experimentation/190095/122 "2010-12-25T23:18:39Z")
Yes, where he says it very sarcastically and tells me he’s not trying to recruit me. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2010, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-males-and-homosexual-experimentation/190095/123 "2010-12-25T23:54:12Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Yes, where he says it very sarcastically and tells me he’s not trying to recruit me. It still utterly fails to support your claim that, and I quote, “any male who claims to be 100% heterosexual is automatically regarded with derision and skepticism.” Exactly two posters in this thread have made anything approaching that claim, neither of which, to my knowledge, identifies as homosexual. The vast majority of posters in this thread, including all the openly homosexual posters of whom I’m aware, have made precisely the opposite claim. Which makes your (and other’s) insistence that this sort of claim is at all common really puzzling - which, I would venture to guess, is at the heart of **Illuminatiprimus** ’s sarcasm. It’s not that he doubts your claims of exclusive heterosexuality, it’s that your extreme defensiveness against a claim that manifestly does not exist in this thread makes no sense on its face. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2010, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-males-and-homosexual-experimentation/190095/124 "2010-12-25T23:59:36Z")
See - “extreme defensiveness.” I wasn’t defensive. There you guys go again. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2010, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-males-and-homosexual-experimentation/190095/125 "2010-12-26T00:03:16Z")
Yes, you were. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2010, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-males-and-homosexual-experimentation/190095/126 "2010-12-26T00:15:25Z")
All I said was that I had never had any same sex attractions. How is that defensive? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2010, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-males-and-homosexual-experimentation/190095/127 "2010-12-26T00:22:28Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > All I said was that I had never had any same sex attractions. How is that defensive? That’s not defensive. That part was fine. The part where you got all weirdly defensive is when you started declaiming against all the people who were insisting that you must have some sort of homosexual desires. What made it weird was the fact that no one had said anything of the sort. In fairness, you weren’t the _first_ person to be get all weird about that, but you have, after your fashion, become the most vocal person taking that position. ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2010, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-males-and-homosexual-experimentation/190095/128 "2010-12-26T06:34:09Z")
**Dio** , I think your history of black and white extremes in issues may be working against you here. I could be wrong, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Aphyrix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/cdc98d/32.png) [@Aphyrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aphyrix)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-males-and-homosexual-experimentation/190095/129 "2013-11-18T15:39:20Z")
> [@Illuminatiprimus](#): > > Again, it’s not acts that are gay, it’s desires that are. **No.** It is the acts that are homosexual in nature. Having a homosexual lifestyle is the “desires” for a homosexual companionship or relationship. Being aroused or brought to climax by anyone of the **same gender** at least indicates some homosexual inclination of some sort, regardless of the ad infinitum amount of personal denial. ---
**Author:** ![Aphyrix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/cdc98d/32.png) [@Aphyrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aphyrix)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-males-and-homosexual-experimentation/190095/130 "2013-11-18T15:41:19Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > All I said was that I had never had any same sex attractions. How is that defensive? It seems more as if you are **trolling for controversy** than actually making any sort of contribution to this thread. And everyone else is just pandering to that. ---
**Author:** ![Aphyrix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/cdc98d/32.png) [@Aphyrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aphyrix)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-males-and-homosexual-experimentation/190095/131 "2013-11-18T15:47:17Z")
> [@StusBlues](#): > > Lesbians often do. Can we dispense with the mythology that all gay men are easily-seduced horndogs waiting to get laid? They’re not any hornier than your average heterosexual man or woman. Women often proposition attractive men or are easily seduced. There are many sorts of message boards, hookup sites, etc. for all sorts of various sexual encounters. The perpetuated mythology that gay sex is a matter of convenience seems more in the 21st century to be a form of **ABJECT** and pronounced personal denial than fact or **reality.** Also, if you’d happily put yourself in a sexual situation with someone of the same gender, you are not “heterosexual and open minded”. Open-minded, perhaps, but heterosexual one is not. Such black-and-white-but-with-exception mentalities are ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-males-and-homosexual-experimentation/190095/132 "2013-11-18T15:49:13Z")
> [@Aphyrix](#): > > It seems more as if you are **trolling for controversy** than actually making any sort of contribution to this thread. You’re right… something ought to be done about that guy! ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-males-and-homosexual-experimentation/190095/133 "2013-11-18T15:59:59Z")
Indeed. Attempting to engage effectively with Dio in this thread was probably pretty futile. How futile? I’d say about as futile as responding to a 3 year old post from a banned poster. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-males-and-homosexual-experimentation/190095/134 "2013-11-18T16:21:22Z")
So glad Aphyrix showed up just in the nick of time to answer the OP’s burning question. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-males-and-homosexual-experimentation/190095/135 "2013-11-18T16:22:06Z")
If it’s burning, you should contact a medical health professional. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-males-and-homosexual-experimentation/190095/136 "2013-11-18T16:25:45Z")
You know normally I wonder “what was this person searching for in google when they came across this thread and decided to respond to it?” This time, I know EXACTLY what Aphyrix was looking for… and I’m a little confused as to why it was so important to respond the way he did 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-males-and-homosexual-experimentation/190095/137 "2013-11-18T16:27:58Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > So glad Aphyrix showed up just in the nick of time to answer the OP’s burning question. Yes, I think he was particularly **bold** to put himself **out** there like that. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-males-and-homosexual-experimentation/190095/138 "2013-11-18T17:06:51Z")
NM - did not realize it was a zombie at first. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-males-and-homosexual-experimentation/190095/139 "2013-11-18T17:12:13Z")
As long as we’re picking up the threads of the OP again, I can say that I have no real interest in flipping straight guys. If I think you’re attractive, yeah, I might flirt (that’s not true, I _will_ flirt) but in terms of actual pursuit, being straight or in a relationship would end it right there. I’m not a homewrecker and one of the hottest parts of getting with someone for me is the knowledge that they want to be with me. Being someone’s ‘good enough for now’ is a big turn-off. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-males-and-homosexual-experimentation/190095/140 "2013-11-18T17:57:03Z")
> [@Aphyrix](#): > > It seems more as if you are **trolling for controversy** than actually making any sort of contribution to this thread. > > And everyone else is just pandering to that. Welcome to the SDMB…calling other people trolls outside of THE BBQ PIT is against the rules, so don’t do it again. Also, the poster you were replying to was banned awhile ago. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2013, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/straight-males-and-homosexual-experimentation/190095/141 "2013-11-18T20:18:44Z")
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